• Trump Administration Has Frozen the EPA and Barred Multiple Agencies From Speaking to the Press
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My country is fucked isn't it? It's only a mater of time before he lets Putin in...
The sheer scale of fucked up shit this one order has caused already and will continue to cause is massive. It took Trump and his administration only [I]4 days[/I] to rise as one of worst. Imagine what they can do in [B][I]4 years[/I][/B] [editline]25th January 2017[/editline] Run
With these executive orders who knows what else he might do.
This is legitimately frightening. What the hell is going to happen in the next 4 years.
[QUOTE=Spacewolf;51722158]This is legitimately frightening. What the hell is going to happen in the next 4 years.[/QUOTE] I think all of us are to scared to find out.
[QUOTE=Zick-1957;51722141]My country is fucked isn't it? It's only a mater of time before he lets Putin in...[/QUOTE] Not as long as Mattis holds a position of power.
[QUOTE=1239the;51722087]I sure as fuck hope they're archiving and publicly releasing as much data as possible. I know there's a few organisations out there racing against Trump to save as much as they can from the incoming Trumpocalypse. [URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/[/URL] [URL]https://www.wired.com/2017/01/rogue-scientists-race-save-climate-data-trump/[/URL] A memo allegedly leaked from the EPA: [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C25tbRBWIAAGkwb.jpg:large[/IMG][/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/wTozm3a.png[/img]
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51722187][img]http://i.imgur.com/wTozm3a.png[/img][/QUOTE] Haha, we don't know if that memo is legit, but if it is, that's some Stalin-esque bullshit. 'Digital strategist'? Why not simply call them Political Officers, comrade?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51722069]I wasn't being sarcastic and if I portrayed that post as sarcastic it would completely defeat the point of posting it in the first place.[/QUOTE] You never did explain why you think Trump is a good candidate or that he was better then Clinton in any way. If you dont support your claims then the only possible reason for you entering this thread is to stir the pot so to speak.
So shit has to be approved by a "Digital strategist" ? How long before they try and find a way to apply this to the media.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51722023]Nah, Accelerationism is dumb.[/QUOTE] Were you not one of the posters who were fervently anti-Trump up to election day. I call trolling
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;51722237]So shit has to be approved by a "Digital strategist" ? How long before they try and find a way to apply this to the media.[/QUOTE] Someone is working on it already
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;51722237]So shit has to be approved by a "Digital strategist" ? How long before they try and find a way to apply this to the media.[/QUOTE] I give it two weeks tops I bet he goes after CNN next
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51721879]Please, I request any trump supporter to come and defend this action by the administration. What makes it okay to silence aspects of the government that do not deal with national security.[/QUOTE] I'm not supporter, but information is only a small part of government policy, departments like these mentioned release data, but usually not views along with them, I don't see anything about data being held up, only views, which means he is well within his rights to do this as he is the one paying the bills. You'll probably get the data, but only the administration will be there to basically say if that number is good or not.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;51722302]I'm not supporter, but information is only a small part of government policy, departments like these mentioned release data, but usually not views along with them, I don't see anything about data being held up, only views, which means he is well within his rights to do this as he is the one paying the bills.[/QUOTE] So this isn't in anyway censoring them to support a factually untrue agenda, to support Trumps "Alternative Facts" and because of that, I should be okay with this?
[QUOTE=Boilrig;51722302]I'm not supporter, but information is only a small part of government policy, departments like these mentioned release data, but usually not views along with them, I don't see anything about data being held up, only views, which means he is well within his rights to do this as he is the one paying the bills. You'll probably get the data, but only the administration will be there to basically say if that number is good or not.[/QUOTE] So in essence the government will be free to spin the information any way they want to. That's the stupidest thing i've ever heard.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;51722302]which means he is well within his rights to do this as [b]he is the one paying the bills.[/b][/QUOTE] No he fucking isn't. The President doesn't pay the EPA's fucking bills. Trump is not the dictator of the United States. He does not [b]own[/b] the EPA. What a horrifying viewpoint.
Yeah wait a second the president doesn't foot the bill for the EPA, the taxpayers do.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;51722302]he is well within his rights to do this as he is the one paying the bills[/QUOTE] No he's fucking not. We pay. He doesn't pay a dime. That bloated orangutan won't pay a cent. And no, he has no fucking right to dictate what is a "good number" or not. The man probably didn't spend 5 minutes in a science class.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;51722302]I'm not supporter, but information is only a small part of government policy, departments like these mentioned release data, but usually not views along with them, I don't see anything about data being held up, only views, which means he is well within his rights to do this as he is the one paying the bills. You'll probably get the data, but only the administration will be there to basically say if that number is good or not.[/QUOTE] "I'm not (Trump) supporter, but..." is the new "I'm not racist, but...".
Is America great again yet? I don't feel like it is. I feel like it's very far from it. Not getting a whole lot of 'greatness' vibes over here.
Oh and also. Even before Trump didn't pay for the EPA because he hasn't paid taxes.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51722309]So this isn't in anyway censoring them to support a factually untrue agenda, to support Trumps "Alternative Facts" and because of that, I should be okay with this?[/QUOTE] That isn't up to me to decide on whether it is right or wrong in your mind. What I'm saying is that unless he starts removing hard data, then you've got an issue, but until then, he can direct his departments to focus on other stats, this is just part of agenda switching between the Obama and Trump Administration. [QUOTE=Kyle902;51722314]So in essence the government will be free to spin the information any way they want to. That's the stupidest thing i've ever heard.[/QUOTE] When have governments not spun information? This isn't exactly news to me. [QUOTE=geel9;51722317]No he fucking isn't. The President doesn't pay the EPA's fucking bills. Trump is not the dictator of the United States. He does not [B]own[/B] the EPA. What a horrifying viewpoint.[/QUOTE] Last I checked the EPA is a department of the Federal Government of the United States, which he is the leader of, he can hand down agenda and directives like any other government. [QUOTE=Damjen;51722351]"I'm not (Trump) supporter, but..." is the new "I'm not racist, but...".[/QUOTE] Wow, you really had to go there. [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51722332]No he's fucking not. We pay. He doesn't pay a dime. That bloated orangutan won't pay a cent. And no, he has no fucking right to dictate what is a "good number" or not. The man probably didn't spend 5 minutes in a science class.[/QUOTE] You weren't supposed to take it literally, it was the point that he is the leader of the Federal Government and can do what he wants regarding halting media or redirecting media through his Administration before being released.
[QUOTE=Zick-1957;51722141]My country is fucked isn't it? It's only a mater of time before he lets Putin in...[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be surprised. The oaf is too busy suckling Putin's cock for free cash, and would happily dissolve NATO. I fear for our allies in eastern Europe more than I fear for my country
[QUOTE=Sitkero;51721905]So, are we allowed to be worried yet? Are we allowed to make comparisons to dictators now? Or is it still too early to tell?[/QUOTE] It's time to hit the red button dude. It's been like a week and things are already spiraling out of control.
I wonder if Trump supporters will still be so rabid to back him up when they're without clean drinking water, without health insurance, and without jobs.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;51722364]That isn't up to me to decide on whether it is right or wrong in your mind. What I'm saying is that unless he starts removing hard data, then you've got an issue, but until then, he can direct his departments to focus on other stats, this is just part of agenda switching between the Obama and Trump Administration.[/quote] "He can direct his departments to focus on other stats". Yes, as in, "he can make it so they don't study things that prove him wrong." Next. [QUOTE=Boilrig;51722364]When have governments not spun information? This isn't exactly news to me.[/quote] "They did it too! So it's ok when he does it". Bullshit. Next. [QUOTE=Boilrig;51722364]Last I checked the EPA is a department of the Federal Government of the United States, which he is the leader of, he can hand down agenda and directives like any other government.[/quote] Nope. That's directly outside the bounds of the executive branch.
[QUOTE=TAU!;51722375]I wonder if Trump supporters will still be so rabid to back him up when they're without clean drinking water, without health insurance, and without jobs.[/QUOTE] and a 500mb Data Cap because byebye net neutrality.
Devils avocado time: You guys voted him in, this was his stance all along. Hardly a surprise. And to be honest, this is your democracy in action, he was voted in by America's democratic system fairly. Sure, the system is wrong and it should be by popular vote, but as it stands all of this is totally legitimate and mandated. It's gonna be a shit 4 years for the US
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;51722379]and a 500mb Data Cap because byebye net neutrality.[/QUOTE] With that included, they'll probably never know about any of this happening until it's too late. How long until Trump appoints himself eternal leader and begins purging dissenters?
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