• Donald Trump: US must greatly expand nuclear weapons
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"Lol guys why you freaking out lol he's a closet genius lmao y'all salty he won rofl maga" :downs::downs::downs:
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;51568997]If it's so necessary in your opinion for the US and Russia to have a dickwaving contest, can't they do it over something else other than weapons capable of causing massive damage globally[/QUOTE] Guys, i have this great idea lets have another space race... itll cost billions and billions but you know, it will actually do the world good and stuff.
I guess Trump and Obama can agree on some policies. [video=youtube;iO1EOjr_s9s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO1EOjr_s9s[/video]
[QUOTE=dai;51568599]delete his twitter and give him one operated solely through by his legal team holy shit[/QUOTE] I'd rather have his incompetence out in the open rather than letting him quietly try to press for actions and legislature without the American public knowing just how pants-on-head he is. If anyone's being thrown under the bus, I'd rather it be him by his own tiny hands.
Where are people getting these ridiculous numbers for how many nukes the US has? It's like 4k not 7k and 75% of them are in storage and need a day or two to assemble before they could be used. [img]https://fas.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/inventories2016-1.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Bradyns;51569030]I guess Trump and Obama can agree on some policies. [video=youtube;iO1EOjr_s9s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO1EOjr_s9s[/video][/QUOTE] Its a dumb statement though... and proof that no one is infallible. reducing the matches only increases the difference in outcome potential of a first strike. don't reduce the matches, it will lead to matches being used. The most stable situation is where everyone in the room has so many matches that its irrelevant how many the other guys have, we all have matches, we all gain from not using ours first so by default we choose not to fuck ourselves over. If one guy has no matches, as soon as he does get matches and he is even slightly distrusted, everyone will think suspicious of him, and the balance will be shaky... see North korea. [editline]22nd December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Psychopath12;51569055]I'd rather have his incompetence out in the open rather than letting him quietly try to press for actions and legislature without the American public knowing just how pants-on-head he is. If anyone's being thrown under the bus, I'd rather it be him by his own tiny hands.[/QUOTE] Shadowban the president lol
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;51568568]Can someone seriously get Trump away from his twitter account. For fuck sake...[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=dai;51568599]delete his twitter and give him one operated solely through by his legal team holy shit[/QUOTE] you know what fuck it let him go unfiltered we need people to know how insane this asshole is I want him to say something so fucking bad that it gets him and mike pence impeached
What absolute money wasting nonsense, the US alone could destroy the earth half a dozen times over already.
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;51568895] [IMG]http://i68.tinypic.com/6ris6d.png[/IMG] looks like we're "keeping up" pretty well[/QUOTE] Any more sources on Russia's Capacity? I always thought WE were behind US with amount. [QUOTE=Xakoro;51569062]Where are people getting these ridiculous numbers for how many nukes the US has? It's like 4k not 7k and 75% of them are in storage and need a day or two to assemble before they could be used. [img]https://fas.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/inventories2016-1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Ah, thanks.
[QUOTE=Xakoro;51569062]Where are people getting these ridiculous numbers for how many nukes the US has? It's like 4k not 7k and 75% of them are in storage and need a day or two to assemble before they could be used. [img]https://fas.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/inventories2016-1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] [url]http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/United-States-Has-Enough-Operational-Nuclear-Weapons-to-Destroy-Itself-Four-Times-20140914-0033.html[/url] thats still more than enough to deal with any potential threat the world could ever muster, several times over.
Why? We're as fucked with 1 as we are with 1000.
I thought about it for a bit, at first I believed 1 nuke should be enough to mantain safety, but like if you use up that one nuke then nothing is stopping the other country from retaliating if they already took that one blow. So I thought about it for a bit and I've come to conclusion that about 4 is enough
[QUOTE=Naught;51569110][url]http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/United-States-Has-Enough-Operational-Nuclear-Weapons-to-Destroy-Itself-Four-Times-20140914-0033.html[/url] thats still more than enough to deal with any potential threat the world could ever muster, several times over.[/QUOTE] Not really. Most nukes are pretty small in yield and the delivery systems aren't very accurate even if they aren't intercepted and destroyed before they hit. [QUOTE=Superkilll307;51569120]Why? We're as fucked with 1 as we are with 1000.[/QUOTE] Over a thousand nukes have been set off between 1945 and now without a nuclear winter.
[QUOTE=Xakoro;51569190]Over a thousand nukes have been set off between 1945 and now without a nuclear winter.[/QUOTE] Now detonate 1000 at once, at multiple locations.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51569196]Now detonate 1000 at once, at multiple locations.[/QUOTE] I agree that nukes are bad, but it really doesn't make a differene how many are done at once
[QUOTE=Xakoro;51569190]Not really. Most nukes are pretty small in yield and the delivery systems aren't very accurate even if they aren't intercepted and destroyed before they hit. Over a thousand nukes have been set off between 1945 and now without a nuclear winter.[/QUOTE] True, but it only takes 1 to start and then subsequently end a war.
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;51569239]True, but it only takes 1 to start and then subsequently end a war.[/QUOTE] launching a single nuke could start a war but with no follow-up capability it wouldn't end one
The world must come to its senses about nukes! In the meantime, let's get more nukes while we wait?
if every country were able to field only one or two nukes at a time, you'd see nukes used far more often
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;51569239]True, but it only takes 1 to start and then subsequently end a war.[/QUOTE] If you get rid of nukes, there'd be a lot more wars. The threat of wiping out 90% of the European population (and later on, 70% of the US population) was the only reason the US never went to war with the USSR.
So, pro-Trump people, tell me again how he is anti-war?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51568608]IIRC, it's up to Congress to start up producing more nukes? He can't just "order" it to be done.[/QUOTE] This. As much as Trump loves to give the world the middle finger, he can't exactly build more nukes until Congress can say "Yes Trump you can blow up Russia." Congress is that middled-aged parent who's not 100% willing to give the keys to the tank to the legal-of-age rich son in a drunken stupor. Also, the nukes that we have now are way more powerful than the ones we tested many years ago. Its not just that we were building more nukes, we were making them bigger and stronger with each field test.
[QUOTE=Craigewan;51569276]So, pro-Trump people, tell me again how he is anti-war?[/QUOTE] Mutual assured destruction doesn't mean you want to go to war. The whole point is to face the reality that if the US wants to be a superpower, its existence can't be simply wiped out without mutual destruction for the offender aswell, thus deterring any action like that. Besides Trump was never anti-war, he just wasn't suggesting shit like no fly zones in Syria and seems to want to try not to get involved in pointless conflicts like trying to remove Assad in a fucked up situation. Also thread music/interesting video: [media]https://youtu.be/IkAp5gAYDUQ[/media]
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;51569292]This. As much as Trump loves to give the world the middle finger, he can't exactly build more nukes until Congress can say "Yes Trump you can blow up Russia." Congress is that middled-aged parent who's not 100% willing to give the keys to the tank to the legal-of-age rich son in a drunken stupor. Also, the nukes that we have now are way more powerful than the ones we tested many years ago. Its not just that we were building more nukes, we were making them bigger and stronger with each field test.[/QUOTE] The US had more powerful nukes than any of the ones fielded today by 1954. The tests were for other stuff.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51569082]you know what fuck it let him go unfiltered we need people to know how insane this asshole is I want him to say something so fucking bad that it gets him and mike pence impeached[/QUOTE] Haha if only the world was this fair
[QUOTE=Phycosymo;51569370]Haha if only the world was this fair[/QUOTE] Let me dream :(
[QUOTE=Tudd;51569310]Mutual assured destruction doesn't mean you want to go to war. The whole point is to face the reality that if the US wants to be a superpower, its existence can't be simply wiped out without mutual destruction for the offender aswell, thus deterring any action like that. Besides Trump was never anti-war, he just wasn't suggesting shit like no fly zones in Syria and seems to want to try not to get involved in pointless conflicts like trying to remove Assad in a fucked up situation. Also thread music/interesting video: [media]https://youtu.be/IkAp5gAYDUQ[/media][/QUOTE] Except creating more of them is antagonising Russia further, and pushing us closer to some kind of war. This is the country that is quietly losing its shit over a proposed Missile shield to protect Europe, they're not going to take well to America matching them in turn in their increase in nuclear weapons.
"MY TWEETS ARE BACKED WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS FUCKER! WANNA REPHRASE YOUR REPLY?"
[QUOTE=sYnced;51568624]why do we need 7000 nukes? we should build ONE IMMENSE NUCLEAR WEAPON the size of UTAH[/QUOTE] Great idea. MAD taken to the extreme, no one can fuck with the US or you're gonna blow a continental plate apart and kill everyone, no fucking around with missile defence systems
[QUOTE=Craigewan;51569377]Except creating more of them is antagonising Russia further, and pushing us closer to some kind of war. This is the country that is quietly losing its shit over a proposed Missile shield to protect Europe, they're not going to take well to America matching them in turn in their increase in nuclear weapons.[/QUOTE] I am pretty sure the democrats are doing a great job at making Russia feel antagonized back to the Cold War relations compared to Trump expanding nuclear arms ironically.
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