• 4 killed in shooting at French Jewish school
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[QUOTE=thelurker1234;35202371]why the dumbs?[/QUOTE] it's wrong to kill people.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;35202985]You make a valid point and I agree with it.[/QUOTE] I think I just shit myself.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;35202465] why do i have a feeling you're watching naruto.[/QUOTE] what
I'm surprised everybody pulled out the morality card and no one talked about the main problem with death sentence : our justice isn't flawless, we have several cases of innocent men sent in jail every months, you can free a misjudged man, you can't pull him out of the grave.
I thirst for blood and revenge, put the shooters in a deathmatch cage to the death and the winner gets tortured with the worst torture methods possible and then executed in the most shameful way possible. Yes my tiny brain like.
Enough with this god damn death penalty argument ! The killer acts in France, in which death sentence has been abolished in [b]1981[/b], ergo [b]more than 30 years ago[/b]. The main problem here is catching the fucker so he doesn't harm any more, not deciding what justice will decide for him. [editline]19th March 2012[/editline] Beside, I live in Toulouse and they announced the news all over schools. Basically, I was in touch today at 10 a.m. During the day French news also announced a 17 years-old teenager had been severely harmed.
[QUOTE=Jocke;35202441]I mean wtf? If you take someone else's life you don't deserve your own, execute those mother fuckers[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter how much someone deserves to be executed. No group of people should ever be in charge of the death penalty. So long as humans are in charge of it mistakes will be made. And have been made.
I also don't understand why CNN, along with French news feed, focus on the anti-Semitic part of the rampages. If the killer is indeed the same as the one who killed the three soldiers in Montauban and the highway -which seems to be the case as 0.5 calibre guns are not really widespread in France, especially considering the proximity of the killings and their circumstances- then it is more difficult to associate a mobile to the killer: two of the soldiers were Muslims and the other was Antillese.
Fucked up I guess. Killings happen all the time though so meh. It's hard for me to have feelings towards these things.
Belgian Mosque Arson 2: Electric Boogaloo
It's not Belgian, not Muslim, not even an arson, and I don't see anything about electric boogaloo in there. I think you are in the wrong thread, dear sir. [editline]19th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=BenJammin';35206247]Fucked up I guess. Killings happen all the time though so meh. It's hard for me to have feelings towards these things.[/QUOTE] I don't know, this kind of thing actually rarely happen in France, as far as I know.
[QUOTE=_Axel;35206320]It's not Belgian, not Muslim, not even an arson, and I don't see anything about electric boogaloo in there. I think you are in the wrong thread, dear sir. [editline]19th March 2012[/editline] I don't know, this kind of thing actually rarely happen in France, as far as I know.[/QUOTE] I mean around the world.
maybe if we all kill ourselves or blow up our planet or something we won't have need for morality issues who's with me
You could kill yourself and it would feel the exact same way from your point of view.
[QUOTE=_Axel;35206192]I also don't understand why CNN, along with French news feed, focus on the anti-Semitic part of the rampages. If the killer is indeed the same as the one who killed the three soldiers in Montauban and the highway -which seems to be the case as 0.5 calibre guns are not really widespread in France, especially considering the proximity of the killings and their circumstances- then it is more difficult to associate a mobile to the killer: two of the soldiers were Muslims and the other was Antillese.[/QUOTE] again like I said, it might be a xenophobic group in general. 0.5 caliber? that seems rather overkill, if that 0.5 inches. I can't imagine someone lugging around one of those just to kill people, they're also rather loud.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;35206465]again like I said, it might be a xenophobic group in general. 0.5 caliber? that seems rather overkill, if that 0.5 inches. I can't imagine someone lugging around one of those just to kill people, they're also rather loud.[/QUOTE] I doubt a nationalist would be killing soldiers in uniform. Consider what a committed Arab nationalist would think if he saw his countrymen in the uniform of the Western oppressors?
Well, from what I heard the soldiers literally got their head blown off, but that might be because the killer fired more or less at point blank range. [editline]19th March 2012[/editline] I got information about the weapon's characteristics: It's actually 45 caliber (11.43mm/0,45 inches) More info to come, I'll translate the original article.
[QUOTE=Megafan;35203351]I think I just shit myself.[/QUOTE] what the fuck did i say wrong.
[quote=Le Figaro]In the rampages taking place at Toulouse and Montauban, the weapon used was 45 caliber(11.43 mm). «American army service weapon for eighty years, up to the 80s, this powerful handgun was quite popular in the army during the 70s», Benoît Ebel, weapon specialist at Synergie-officiers police syndicate, explained. Famous marseillese hoodlum Jacques Imbert, also know as "le Mat", received seven 45 bullets and fifteen buckshot lead, at Cassis (Bouches-du-Rhône), 1st February 1977. He miraculously survived. 45 caliber bullets are heavy and slow (14,9g, 260 m/s). The original 45 magazine contains seven bullets. Latest versions could shoot up to 14 bullets. This weapon has been produced at 3 million copies in the world. It has been put to use in some post war allied formations, notably in tanks in France. Indochina and Algeria troops had these. Nowadays, it only interests gun collectors and gun club members. 9 mm parabellum replaced it over time. Equipped with 15 to 20 slots magazines, this calibre is faster and more precise. A Glock, the standard issue weapon in French police, contains 18 bullets. The Toulouse murderer had started to open fire on the children at the school this Monday with such caliber when his weapon jammed, leading to him continuing his rampage with his 45.[/quote] It seems the murderer didn't intend at first to use the weapon he employed against the soldiers earlier on.
[QUOTE=_Axel;35206192]I also don't understand why CNN, along with French news feed, focus on the anti-Semitic part of the rampages. If the killer is indeed the same as the one who killed the three soldiers in Montauban and the highway -which seems to be the case as 0.5 calibre guns are not really widespread in France, especially considering the proximity of the killings and their circumstances- then it is more difficult to associate a mobile to the killer: two of the soldiers were Muslims and the other was Antillese.[/QUOTE] My bet's on the killer being one of those crazy muslim integrists, killing those 2 two muslim soldiers to "show those traitors to the arab cause". The jews because of the Israeli oppression against Palestine... it could be anything really. But if that's the case, I'm not sure if we can call that bastard a murderer anymore, looks like terrorism to me.
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;35206943]My bet's on the killer being one of those crazy muslim integrists, killing those 2 two muslim soldiers to "show those traitors to the arab cause". The jews because of the Israeli oppression against Palestine... it could be anything really. But if that's the case, I'm not sure if we can call that bastard a murderer anymore, looks like terrorism to me.[/QUOTE] One does not necessarily have to be Muslim to be a terrorist. Look at what happened in Norway. In fact, before the killing, three members of the 17th parachute regiment were fired because of their extremist views (Along the lines of 'Nazism' from what I heard), so it's possible the killer is one of them. [editline]19th March 2012[/editline] Apparently, as of tomorrow all the region will be in red vigipirate state, which means heavy support will be provided to watch over schools all over Midi-Pyrénées. I guess the killer will wait until this is all over to act again, or move on to another region.
[QUOTE=_Axel;35207720]In fact, before the killing, three members of the 17th parachute regiment were fired because of their extremist views (Along the lines of 'Nazism' from what I heard), so it's possible the killer is one of them.[/QUOTE] You'd think the police would have checked them, since they're the most glaringly obvious suspects. Since no arrests have been made I wouldn't bet on it being one of them.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;35202316]Sick people. I wish people like these would get executed.[/QUOTE] I know they're screwed in the head and all but calm the hell down.
Update to this- Apparently the main suspects are a small group of neo-nazi ex-soldiers [editline]20th March 2012[/editline] [url]http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/french-police-suspect-neo-nazi-link-to-attack-on-toulouse-jewish-school-1.419707[/url]
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;35202371]why the dumbs?[/QUOTE] because execution does not deter crime and teaches a bad lesson to society. These people are the product of their environment.
[QUOTE=Onirik;35202400]because he wished for more people to die fall into that and you never stop killing the killer of the killer of the killer...etc[/QUOTE] Executing killers isn't really the reason why people kill people.. I mean, you can't say people today don't sometimes deserve the ultimate punishments, be it a life in prison, in solitary, or death. As for rehab.. It's tricky when sometimes a single crime may mean that you won't get a second chance, not in a long time anyway.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;35217707]Update to this- Apparently the main suspects are a small group of neo-nazi ex-soldiers[/QUOTE] That's what I was referring to. Apparently they have not yet been apprehended, as the police is still looking for them.
[b]Update[/b] [quote]Police hunting a gunman suspected of killing seven people in southern France have surrounded a flat in Toulouse. The 24-year-old Frenchman from Toulouse has said he belongs to al-Qaeda and acted to "avenge Palestinian children".[/quote] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17446999[/url]
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[QUOTE=Glorbo;35217707]Update to this- Apparently the main suspects are a small group of neo-nazi ex-soldiers [editline]20th March 2012[/editline] [url]http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/french-police-suspect-neo-nazi-link-to-attack-on-toulouse-jewish-school-1.419707[/url][/QUOTE] Your face when he is confirmed to be an Algerian Muslim.
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