• Donald Trump Presidency would be a top 10 world threat
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49954467]Again, you saw enough of a country, that is geographically larger than your nation,? Really? You saw enough of it? To make that ridiciulous assumption? Do you know how much of the US i've seen? 14 states. In those 14 states, I have seen some of the most depressing poverty, some of the most depressing healthcare, and homes, I have ever seen. America is already worse than us We care about each other. You don't want to care about anyone but yourself.[/QUOTE] Oh, I see Mr. Canadian, but let me ask you this does [I]your[/I] country have 24/7 breakfast at mcdonald's didn't god damn think so, and that's because your weak ass socialist health care system can't support the ensuing freedom fueled diabetes
I love Trump threads. They bring out the best and most substantive discussions SH has ever seen. [QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49954375]I drove through many parts of Canada, not all of it. But from what I saw, I realize we need to make sure america never falls this low. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitposting" - Pascall))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Fuck I spoke too soon. Looks like we'll have to have an actual discussion about this now.
[QUOTE=Durandal;49954428]We'll probably still get recession due to many factors. Probably won't be as bad though.[/QUOTE] There will always be recessions. It really can't be stopped, it is for the best if we can take a minor halt because if a economy keeps growing and growing if it falls it will fall [I]hard[/I]. That was the Great Depression. Speculation grew out of control and Wall Street collapsed under its own weight. The Great Recession was the same, housing loans were being handed out to people who couldn't afford them under Democrat controlled committee and eventually the housing bubble popped.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49954492]"Canada is considerably larger than the U.S., in sheer land mass, but has about one tenth the human population, some 31,000,000, creating some interesting challenges in animal protection. The entire population of Canada is about the same as can be found in the state of California."[/QUOTE] Yes, and we are [B]SPREAD OUT OVER A LARGER GEOGRAPHICAL AREA SO HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLE MAKE THAT STATEMENT UNLESS YOU'RE SAYING THAT ALL CANADIANS LIVE IN THE SCALE OF CALIFORNIA[/B] Thanks, please try again. [QUOTE]So you say that it is worse, so why not elect someone who can make us great again. You said it was shit so you proved my point that we need to be better. Thanks man![/QUOTE] Yes, your country is shit, and electing someone who's going to make it his own personal sandbox is a great idea. I hope it works out well for you. I know it won't, but I hope it does. I hope americans can avoid living like you, so they can be better people than you. I know many people who went through hardship and came out better. You went through and you came out ready to toss the world in the garbage. It's purely childish.
We have some truly bizarre people on this forum
[QUOTE=Durandal;49954506]I love Trump threads. They bring out the best and most substantive discussions SH has ever seen.[/QUOTE] yeah man, real hard hitting shit in here
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;49954473]Okay so instead of picking one generalisation you pick the other one you like better Great[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20160314&t=2&i=1124795544&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=644&pl=429&sq=&r=LYNXNPEC2D14K[/IMG] Western media: Look at those brave refugees crossing a dangerous river all on their own! But wait, how did the media make those photos? [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/AVlFLDd.jpg[/IMG] They are just lining up to get those shots? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/EXzR29t.jpg[/IMG] And in the supposed to be dangerous river too? And cut to the wide shot..... [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/bmE88kv.jpg[/IMG] Well chap, I guess that one of those two parties isn't exactly showing the truth here. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitposting" - Pascall))[/highlight]
what the fuck are you talking about
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I've been lurking on SH for a while and I feel compelled to make my first post because JohnFisher89's Canada comparison to "poorer New York" is laughable. Is this guy serious? I support Trump and most of his policies, but this guy make us look like nitwits.
[QUOTE=zerglingv2;49953880]World could not handle a Putin Trump Bromance[/QUOTE] That sounds like the Team Rocket of the real world. Putin throws soldiers at problems, and Trump throws money and walls. David Cameron can be the Meowth of the group.
[QUOTE=Jordax;49954573][IMG] Western media: Look at those brave refugees crossing a dangerous river all on their own! But wait, how did the media make those photos? They are just lining up to get those shots? And in the supposed to be dangerous river too? And cut to the wide shot..... Well chap, I guess that one of those two parties isn't exactly showing the truth here.[/QUOTE] Okay so what does this have to do with you generalizing refugees??? [editline]18th March 2016[/editline] Anyway this is about Trump, you always spin everything to be either about Europe (or glorious Europa, as you like to call it), as a whole or the Netherlands, stop
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;49954395]Nothing changes. Status quo stays the same, rich get richer poor get poorer. Student debt goes up. Country remains stable. Hillary gets to have her way with the oval office.[/QUOTE] That doesn't sound too good. Would it end up working the same as when her husband was the president? What about Sanders? Would that be better or worse? Trump is either going kick off something major with his big mouth or end being the sixth president to be assassinated.... Or both. The feeling is a little hard to shake off.
[QUOTE=Highwind017;49954754]That doesn't sound too good. Would it end up working the same as when her husband was the president? What about Sanders? Would that be better or worse? Trump is either going kick off something major with his big mouth or end being the sixth president to be assassinated.... Or both. The feeling is a little hard to shake off.[/QUOTE] Sanders is considered better by most liberals, but Hilary isn't a bad second choice either- continuing the policies of Obama isn't the end of the world, just not the best choice considering every candidate. Everyone can agree that they're both way better than Trump, at least.
Also one other problem with Trump winning is the standard it will set in America and also the rest of the world, you won't need to be respectful, mature, talk about the current issues facing the country or anything like that, all you have to do is act like a complete prick who insults everyone and acts "anti PC" to win.
I think Trump is cancer but the original report is pretty gratuitous He wants to just gut NAFTA with little regard for the consequences and fuck up trade between our closest neighbors, probably a good reason why his presidency would be a high risk on global economics.
[QUOTE=Saxon;49954979]I think Trump is cancer but the original report is pretty gratuitous He wants to just gut NAFTA with little regard for the consequences and fuck up trade between our closest neighbors, probably a good reason why his presidency would be a high risk on global economics.[/QUOTE] Not only that, he's been outspoken against the us's greatest allies like Britain, Japan, and wants to initiate trade wars with China
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49954436]jesus. Fucking. Christ. You are an ignorant, and arrogant ass. "canada's a piece of shit and everyone there is like a poor new yorker better make america great again canada's full of shit" How is that not basically directly trolling me?[/QUOTE] As a New Yorker I can sat I am also offened, Albany, Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse are poor. Trump is not going to magically make jobs paper in the rust belt. John fisher should spend sometime in Buffalo and Niagara Falls ny.
What the hell is going on with this thread? First Johnfisher loudly displays his room-temperature IQ score and Jordax won't shut the fuck up about refugees/immigrants like usual.
[QUOTE=Kommodore;49954629]what the fuck are you talking about[/QUOTE] Same poster tried to awkwardly interject the refugee issue like 5 times in this thread, despite being ignored every single time.
[QUOTE=Chaitin;49954672]I've been lurking on SH for a while and I feel compelled to make my first post because JohnFisher89's Canada comparison to "poorer New York" is laughable. Is this guy serious? I support Trump and most of his policies, but this guy make us look like nitwits.[/QUOTE] Damn dude you waited 4 years to make this post, the patience of a god damned saint. Also the amount of tin-foil hat wearing going on SH lately is getting pretty ridiculous. I don't like Trump just as much as the next guy but jesus he isn't the anti-christ (which ironically enough shitty republicans claimed about Obama) .
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;49954991]Not only that, he's been outspoken against the us's greatest allies like Britain, Japan, and wants to initiate trade wars with China[/QUOTE] Yeah but then it mentions things like TPP which is generally bad for the American worker, I could stand to see it go if it lost some shareholders some money
[QUOTE=Tsyolin;49955010]Damn dude you waited 4 years to make this post, the patience of a god damned saint. Also the amount of tin-foil hat wearing going on SH lately is getting pretty ridiculous. I don't like Trump just as much as the next guy but jesus he isn't the anti-christ (which ironically enough shitty republicans claimed about Obama) .[/QUOTE] Can you imagine if he was the antichrist? How disappointing would that be. I mean, you expect a little gravitas with your avatar of Evil.
[QUOTE=Tsyolin;49955010]Damn dude you waited 4 years to make this post, the patience of a god damned saint. Also the amount of tin-foil hat wearing going on SH lately is getting pretty ridiculous. I don't like Trump just as much as the next guy but jesus he isn't the anti-christ (which ironically enough shitty republicans claimed about Obama) .[/QUOTE] One of the funnier things about this election is we're seeing similar rhetoric about Trump that we saw about Obama. Remember when we all had nice laughs about right-wing idiots calling Obama "King Obama" and when they said it was going to be the fucking end of america as we know it if he won? Now we're seeing it again. The fact that everyone actually thinks he'll get shit done is amusing, he's right-winged Obama, like Obama was the "change" everyone demanded at the time after Bush, Trump is the "change" people seem to be wanting after Obama (in the GOP anyway). Truth is he won't get any of his crazier shit passed that he wants, just like Obama didn't get a lot of what he wanted passed or done. Now I know right now Clintons favorability is higher than trump at this very moment and she's polling better at this given moment, but I'm not going write Donald off as defeated yet, because as history has shown polls don't mean shit this far out from the election when literally anything could happen and no one is talking about any of Clintons other scandalous behavior other than her wall-street speeches that she refuses to release and continues to shift the goal post on for when she'll release them. I'm also not willing to write off Bernie as defeated either though and best case scenario is he wins because all Trump can say is "HURR HE'S A COMMUNIST" and thats a pretty big lie.
[QUOTE=discofex;49954998]As a New Yorker I can sat I am also offened, Albany, Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse are poor. Trump is not going to magically make jobs paper in the rust belt. John fisher should spend sometime in Buffalo and Niagara Falls ny.[/QUOTE] At least Rochester's on a slow uphill. Still the 'poorest large NY city" but we got a massive photonics grant along with a few others for maintenance, upkeep and beautification. Real estate is looking better too. Kinda biased though...I wouldn't pick anywhere else in the US for the moment. Fascinating little city.
[QUOTE=Durandal;49955083]One of the funnier things about this election is we're seeing similar rhetoric about Trump that we saw about Obama. Remember when we all had nice laughs about right-wing idiots calling Obama "King Obama" and when they said it was going to be the fucking end of america as we know it if he won? Now we're seeing it again. The fact that everyone actually thinks he'll get shit done is amusing, he's right-winged Obama, like Obama was the "change" everyone demanded at the time after Bush, Trump is the "change" people seem to be wanting after Obama (in the GOP anyway). Truth is he won't get any of his crazier shit passed that he wants, just like Obama didn't get a lot of what he wanted passed or done. Now I know right now Clintons favorability is higher than trump at this very moment and she's polling better at this given moment, but I'm not going write Donald off as defeated yet, because as history has shown polls don't mean shit this far out from the election when literally anything could happen and no one is talking about any of Clintons other scandalous behavior other than her wall-street speeches that she refuses to release and continues to shift the goal post on for when she'll release them. I'm also not willing to write off Bernie as defeated either though and best case scenario is he wins because all Trump can say is "HURR HE'S A COMMUNIST" and thats a pretty big lie.[/QUOTE] Well as John likes to put it He'll literally use his money, and his previous experience at lobbying, to push his shit through. Literally what John has said before, literally a plutocracy.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49953914]It would hurt us short term but long term we could help control/stabalize the nations overseas without firing a gun.[/QUOTE] Control and estabilize other nations without firing a gun? Considering all the shit the US pulled to "control and estabilize other nations without (Ourselves) firing a gun" during the Cold War... [B]Edit[/B] I mean, can you even [I]imagine[/I] how other countries would react if the US tried to pull those stunts all over again, but with the dial turned up to eleven? There's still a lot of US resentment around the world. But of course, who cares if the rest of the world losses its shit over America trying to fuck them over again, right? Let me put it this way. You put someone like Trump in power, and he proceeds to give many other nations a reason to elect people who are anti-american, and proceed to arm everyone and their mother "just in case" the US tries anything funny. In turn, the US increases it's attempts to "control and estabilize sovereign nations without firing a gun", which [B]in turn[/B] increases the support for the extremist anti-americans. Eventually, [I]someone[/I] fires a gun, and we are all [B]fucked[/B]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49955170]Well as John likes to put it He'll literally use his money, and his previous experience at lobbying, to push his shit through. Literally what John has said before, literally a plutocracy.[/QUOTE] That pretty much implies that he won't be out lobbied by big businesses which benefits massively from the current way things are handled. Which is pretty laughable if you think about it. The best Trump will be able to get is what his fellow rich buddies want.
[QUOTE=Durandal;49955206]That pretty much implies that he won't be out lobbied by big businesses which benefits massively from the current way things are handled.[/QUOTE] which defeats your point about him not getting his crazy shit through. Electing Trump is resigning yourself to the worst America possible.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49955214]which defeats your point about him not getting his crazy shit through. Electing Trump is resigning yourself to the worst America possible.[/QUOTE] His crazy shit is the wall, deportation of undocumented workers which are easily exploitable by big agriculture, so thats not going through. His bust up of Obamacare would hurt the insurance industry because now all those people that where required to get insurance don't have to anymore, the only good thing for insurance companies from a bust up of Obamacare is no longer needing to care of pre-existing conditions, so that might not even go through (not to mention democrats will filibuster the dog shit out of that). His anti-trade and high tarrif shit will also massively hurt big business and global corporations, so thats probably going to be lobbied against as well. What other crazy shit does he want that will destroy everything? Because thats all I can think of off the top of my head. I don't see a muslim ban getting passed easily either unless he uses his executive orders to do it.
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