• The Age of the Snow Queen is Over: Zootopia now the biggest opening in Disney Animation history
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[QUOTE=J!NX;49879801]Pixar and disney work together a lot though don't they?[/QUOTE] Disney Animation Studios and Pixar, although both owned by Disney, aren't correlated with eachother. They both use Maya and Renderman for workflow, but Pixar's been doing its own thing for decades. Unfortunately, Pixar gets all the bad rep when Disney forces shit out like Planes, which was made by DisneyToon and had nothing to do with Pixar. Basically anything bad created by Pixar was from Pixar Canada, which is gone now. [editline]1[/editline] i guess DAS uses hyperion, not renderman
Hey, Frozen, you know that Biggest Opening you had? You need to let it go.
I think people are starting to realise DAS has talent again and they go see their movies just because their logo is on it like marvel movies
[QUOTE=GameDev;49880217] Basically anything bad created by Pixar was from Pixar Canada, which is gone now.[/QUOTE] Cars 2 was made by Pixar itself not from Pixar Canada.
I doubt it'll end up making more overall than Frozen. IIRC it didn't explode in popularity until a week or two after it first released.
So when is the next traditional 2D animated feature film coming out Disney? ... H-hello? ... Disney?!...
I wonder how long it took to animate zoophilia, I wouldn't be surprised if it passed a billion dollars.
It's an 8/10 on Rotten Tomatoes (ignoring their awful tomatometer that converts 7/10 ratings into 10/10 and 6/10 ratings into 0/10) and it had really good advertising. It's likely to pick up and break more records because people think it's going to be a 10/10 movie with the sensationalism that it's the best movie rated so far in 2016. I'm not saying the movie is terrible but it's what you would expect from a disney movie; good animation and good storytelling.
[QUOTE=Holt!;49880120]UK has to wait until the 25th till it's in cinemas for some reason. I can't wait :v:[/QUOTE] Easter weekend, that's why.
[QUOTE=EuSKalduna;49879833]I'm not even being ironic; I bet money that it's because of the furry's Not to say it's a bad film, I haven't seen it yet, but I honestly believe that this is all because of the furrys[/QUOTE] Just waiting to see someone's cringey story on 4chan or whatever about how they went to see zootopia and it hit them in a beyond astral way and they nearly pulled it out in the theatre.
This was very solid. Imagine a Disney movie entirely about anthropomorphic animals and you never cringe once the entire way through. There's good humor throughout and the characters don't suck. This movie aint a mastapiece five-course meal but instead it's your favorite candy bar. It's just a solid good all the way through.
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;49880268]So when is the next traditional 2D animated feature film coming out Disney? ... H-hello? ... Disney?!...[/QUOTE] Never. I sincerely doubt anyone in Disney's animation studios knows more than the most basic, rudimentary level of 2D cell animation these days.
Thank god it beat Frozen. I still see that movie every so often at my register thanks to a series of canned beans we sell that has anna/elsa on it for whatever fucking reason. I'd rather see cute animals than those two.
sucks because computer technology today can really assist with making the process of a 2D cell-type animation more efficiently done than how it was back then. I don't even think it's a "save money" issue anymore as much it is a "we have the pencil-pushers doing math on market trends and what kind of movie sells better" thing. Did Princess and the Frog just bomb or something? I quite liked that one actually.
[QUOTE=General J;49880416] Did Princess and the Frog just bomb or something? I quite liked that one actually.[/QUOTE] It opened up the same weekend as Avatar, hence why there hasn't been any more traditional 2D animated Disney films.
Wow, that sucks. I'm sure that they will return to it eventually though, the demand has always been there. Or you know fuck, remember the technology behind Paperman- to make it some beautiful 2D/3D abomination hybrid? Give me a full-length of that shit.
[QUOTE=General J;49880416]sucks because computer technology today can really assist with making the process of a 2D cell-type animation more efficiently done than how it was back then. I don't even think it's a "save money" issue anymore as much it is a "we have the pencil-pushers doing math on market trends and what kind of movie sells better" thing. Did Princess and the Frog just bomb or something? I quite liked that one actually.[/QUOTE] It didn't do as well as Disney was expecting, but it did okay. $267m on a $100m budget. To contrast, Frozen massed $1.276 billion on a $150m budget. That is why Disney doesn't do traditional animated films these days. Still, Frog was a remarkably solid film. I enjoyed it, thought it was a creative take on their Princess trope.
Movie was good, not surprised its printing them money.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;49880131]uh what. i mean frozen was a pretty decent movie too that sort of flipped the trope of disney princesses on it's head. the tech used to animate the snow in it was incredibly impressive as well. i think zootopia is a much better movie but its ok to like something if its popular you know also the standard movie-goer doesn't really give a shit about any of those things[/QUOTE] I never said Zootopia was bad? I was making a sarcastic mark about how it was going to make furries popular, nothing more really. But if you really want to get into it then okay, lets. Frozen is an objectively bad film in comparsion to other films of similar nature, it'd have maybe flipped the trope if Brave and Tangled hadn't done that years prior, Both of which are much better films in almost every way btw. The single worst part about Frozen is that it is literally a mess of characters that seemingly exist solely for potential marketing purposes and an over abundance of sociopolitical statements that leave the experience feeling completely devoid of not only belivablity, but out right sacrifices the flow of the script and furthering the story to push these agendas. And when the film isn't busy trying to make you somehow care about a character that may as well be wearing a Black Veil Brides t-shirt and have bleach blonde, dip dyed hair with all that edge she perpetually excretes, it's busy trying to make you care deeply for a girl that is maybe a decent cheap knock-off of any other classic character with a lonely backstory, but because we're stuck trying to make you give a fuck about Anna, Edgelord and the fucking Snowminion, Olaf, all at the same time, we've no real compelling connection to any of them. Maybe if we didn't spend all that time faffing about with the rock trolls, the pointless action-y scenes that did literally nothing to further the plot, and had a more developed evil villain than the limp left hand of bureaucracy, we'd have a decent film. As it stands we're more likely to associate Elsa with being the villain because she's the most evil, destructive character for literally the entire first two acts of the film. We only get introduced to the big bad evil plan to seek preferential trade agreements(? Oh..) in the third act. Seriously, Frozen isn't a great beacon of shining social justice. It's a kids film and from that persective that's fine, let children have their fun. But people blew it up into being some sort of socially aware cinema masterpiece, which is objectively false, because it isn't Disney's greatest animated film in any way. It is a fun, enjoyable film while being a generally shit film from a technical standpoint. See the Transformers films for another film set of the same issue. They're fun spectacles that entertain you, nothing more. Fun films for the sake of being entertained is not a bad thing, especially when they're children's films. Contrast this to Zootopia, where it's an actually competent animated film that doesn't spend a whole lot of time being pointless. The characters are a bit shallow at times, they follow the two staring buddies are off great but then have a conflict later that is finally resolved in the third act not because they want to but because they need to for plot reason. But that's again perfectly acceptable because the film isn't trying to be innovative in that way. Outside of that formula the characters are all decently developed for a kid's film. The world detail in it is incredibly interesting, all the little bits that make it feel believable, how it accommodates for animals of all sizes in the world, etc. The script flowed properly and wasn't bogged down with pointless marketing characters to the point it was detrimental to the experience. This is a film that knows what it wants to be and does exactly that. Unlike Frozen where we're stuck between trying to be an adaptation of The Snow Queen and trying to shove as much marketability and political agenda down the audience's throat as possible, and suffering for it. Like seriously, this film deserves to be the highest grossing animated film, really glad it beat Frozen.
I'll just leave this here... [t]http://40.media.tumblr.com/3f5dd7f6ed2d6e61e63a1edd700ecab4/tumblr_o3h48quTrs1stcp3eo1_1280.png[/t] [IMG]http://40.media.tumblr.com/d529aea5796b4f6ca7bad770bb644383/tumblr_inline_o3iiab25HQ1qehh6b_500.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=alexelgeco;49880692]I'll just leave this here... [t]http://40.media.tumblr.com/3f5dd7f6ed2d6e61e63a1edd700ecab4/tumblr_o3h48quTrs1stcp3eo1_1280.png[/t] [IMG]http://40.media.tumblr.com/d529aea5796b4f6ca7bad770bb644383/tumblr_inline_o3iiab25HQ1qehh6b_500.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Honestly, if anything appealing to furries in an innocent way is a decent marketing idea that makes the film memorable for kids. Children will see people in these animals costumes when they go to see the film and so long as people act with decency as I would hope we all do, it'd be no different than seeing those mascots in a Disney park. Which is a huge thing for a lot of people. Really if anything this is just creative marketing around a product instead of making a product around marketing.
[QUOTE=EuSKalduna;49879833]I'm not even being ironic; I bet money that it's because of the furry's Not to say it's a bad film, I haven't seen it yet, but I honestly believe that this is all because of the furrys[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, they completely appropiated the movie. [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/NBmyWmi.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/4cag2Qv.jpg[/img_thumb] Don't even think of googling for Rule 34 material of the movie... [editline]6th March 2016[/editline] What the fuck is wrong with these people. For fuck's sake.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49880809]What the fuck is wrong with these people. For fuck's sake.[/QUOTE] careful :worried:
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49880809]Oh yeah, they completely appropiated the movie. [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/NBmyWmi.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/4cag2Qv.jpg[/img_thumb] Don't even think of googling for Rule 34 material of the movie... [editline]6th March 2016[/editline] What the fuck is wrong with these people. For fuck's sake.[/QUOTE] Other than blocking the seats behind them that actually doesn't look that awful. Sure it's weird, but as long as they're having fun and not hurting anybody, who cares?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;49880834]careful :worried:[/QUOTE] Ever since I joined FP I expressed how unsettling and disturbing the furry fandom is. This is a children's movie, dude. [editline]6th March 2016[/editline] They sure as hell are cashing in on the furry fandom, that's for sure... so they're partly to blame for this. How could I take my cousins to a movie theater filled with those idiots? Why do I have to explain what a furry is, when she's only 4? Fuck. [editline]6th March 2016[/editline] The only thing that comes to mind is "eh, those are people who look like 30-year-old guys, but are still mentally stuck at your age, darling!"
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49880869]Ever since I joined FP I expressed how unsettling and disturbing the furry fandom is. This is a children's movie, dude. [editline]6th March 2016[/editline] They sure as hell are cashing in on the furry fandom, that's for sure... so they're partly to blame for this. How could I take my cousins to a movie theater filled with those idiots? Why do I have to explain what a furry is, when she's only 4? Fuck.[/QUOTE] I guarantee that you won't find any furries when going to your movie theatre, if any of them exist in your area i'm sure they would've saw it over the weekend. If I'm wrong, just say this to your 4 year old cousin: "They're off work right now, don't go near them because they don't want to be bothered."
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;49880834]careful :worried:[/QUOTE] I haven't seen a good furry dramadebate in YEARS on FP they've long since gone away (the vocal ones)
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49880869]Ever since I joined FP I expressed how unsettling and disturbing the furry fandom is. This is a children's movie, dude. [editline]6th March 2016[/editline] They sure as hell are cashing in on the furry fandom, that's for sure... so they're partly to blame for this. How could I take my cousins to a movie theater filled with those idiots? Why do I have to explain what a furry is, when she's only 4? Fuck. [editline]6th March 2016[/editline] The only thing that comes to mind is "eh, those are people who look like 30-year-old guys, but are still mentally stuck at your age, darling!"[/QUOTE] Yes because every theater will be filled with fursuited individuals wanking off in their seats... Any sexual innuendo in this movie is going to fly right over a 4 year olds head anyway, Pixar has been doing it for decades, all the way back to toy story
[QUOTE=Sableye;49880956]Any sexual innuendo in this movie is going to fly right over a 4 year olds head anyway, Pixar has been doing it for decades, all the way back to toy story[/QUOTE] [quote]There is a scene in the film where the protagonists visit a 'nude spa/naturlist-club' which have animals that do not wear any forms of clothing, a departure from the rest of the film where the animals are depicted with clothing. Of course no private parts are to be seen since this is rather comical, but the way Judy reacts to their nakedness implies that she and the characters in the film are able to see what the audience can't. A celebrity character named Gazelle is seen at various times in the movie, dancing in numbers and costumes reminiscent of adult entertainers. Some other characters have an app which they can paste their heads into which allows them to simulate dancing with her in skimpy outfits. Meanwhile her song advises to "try everything".[/quote] [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2948356/parentalguide[/url] Would probably fly over a 4 year old's head
There are a lot of furries who aren't in it for the sexual notion anyway, a lot of them just like the idea of anthropomorphic animals because it's fascinating for some reason or another
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