• Swat team throw stun grenade into toddler’s crib during drug bust
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[QUOTE=Perfumly;44953376]I quit my job, I do pretty much just do whatever to stay afloat. I own a house so I collect about 1400 a month straight cash in rent and just kinda do whatever else. I live very well and I don't really have to work, which is dope as heck. Unfortunately no way to get around property tax though. [editline]30th May 2014[/editline] Maybe you should read the rest of my posts and take note of the fact that I agree with you boo bear[/QUOTE] Exactly what Fausty said, I've read all your posts and all they seem to be talking about how much you hate all cops and a small amount about how you think the entire government is corrupt. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm fairly certain that not the entire government is corrupt. Now let's have a little thought experiment. If you had every single cent of what you earned stolen, What would you do?
[QUOTE=Perfumly;44953446]"Just following orders" is never an excuse. And let's clear something up, I don't hate cops, the people, I hate the uniform and what it stands for. If I can quit a 5k a month job just to not pay income tax I'm sure these cocksuckers could sacrifice a little bit for the greater good.[/QUOTE] Where do you get the money to get by? Just by renting out your house?
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;44953535]Exactly what Fausty said, I've read all your posts and all they seem to be talking about how much you hate all cops and a small amount about how you think the entire government is corrupt. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm fairly certain that not the entire government is corrupt. Now let's have a little thought experiment. If you had every single cent of what you earned stolen, What would you do?[/QUOTE] Bringing up laws that are relevant and important does not make the laws that are irrelevant and unimportant valid. Law enforcement does not have to be a "go big or go home" endeavor and I don't know why so many of you seem to think it does. All I'm saying is our entire system is flawed to the point where our officers are more focused on preying on the lower class just trying to make it like vultures who get bonuses for drug related arrests. It's wrong. [editline]30th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Ericson666;44953536]Where do you get the money to get by? Just by renting out your house?[/QUOTE] NDA ;)
[QUOTE=Perfumly;44953596]Bringing up laws that are relevant and important does not make the laws that are irrelevant and unimportant valid. Law enforcement does not have to be a "go big or go home" endeavor and I don't know why so many of you seem to think it does. All I'm saying is our entire system is flawed to the point where our officers are more focused on preying on the lower class just trying to make it like vultures who get bonuses for drug related arrests. It's wrong. [editline]30th May 2014[/editline] NDA ;)[/QUOTE] I hardly doubt they try to just target the Lower classes, if anything it's the lower classes that are the ones that are "Commiting" (using that word lightly here because if it's something like pot, it's a crime I don't believe that it should be) the crime.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;44953596]Bringing up laws that are relevant and important does not make the laws that are irrelevant and unimportant valid. Law enforcement does not have to be a "go big or go home" endeavor and I don't know why so many of you seem to think it does. All I'm saying is our entire system is flawed to the point where our officers are more focused on preying on the lower class just trying to make it like vultures who get bonuses for drug related arrests. It's wrong.[/QUOTE] Are you implying that Police should just selectively enforce the law at will? That's a dangerous precedent.
[QUOTE=MR-X;44951841]holy shit. I can't imagine how the person who deployed that stun grenade feels. I know i would feel sick to my stomach and like the worst person in the world.[/QUOTE] Then he shouldn't have done it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44953645]Are you implying that Police should just selectively enforce the law at will? That's a dangerous precedent.[/QUOTE] they already do to an extent. Officer's discretion plays a large role in these things. How is it potentially dangerous anyway? What do you fear happening?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44953645]Are you implying that Police should just selectively enforce the law at will? That's a dangerous precedent.[/QUOTE] That's not what I'm implying, but it wouldn't be a dangerous precedent if we didn't hire so many fuckwits
The American justice system is deeply, systemically racist and every officer, even ones who are good, decent people just trying to keep the peace, are still playing a part in that racism by participating in the system. That doesn't mean the DOJ should be disbanded or anything, I'm just saying whenever anyone says "fuck the police" they kind of have a point. They have at least as much of a point to make as the people who say "don't fuck the police" or whatever it is they say instead.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;44953697]That's not what I'm implying, but it wouldn't be a dangerous precedent if we didn't hire so many fuckwits[/QUOTE] Mistakes happen. Cops are only human, just like anyone else. That doesn't make them bad people.
[QUOTE=Apache249;44953725]Mistakes happen. Cops are only human, just like anyone else. That doesn't make them bad people.[/QUOTE] people need to just stop replying without context
[QUOTE=zakedodead;44953665]Then he shouldn't have done it.[/QUOTE] I don't think the officer knew that there was a baby right there.
ban them
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;44953746]I don't think the officer knew that there was a baby right there.[/QUOTE] It probably could have been indicated by the crib
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;44953746]I don't think the officer knew that there was a baby right there.[/QUOTE] so what? does that resolve him of the guilt of knowing that a baby is now in a coma because of his actions?
This whole war on drugs thing is a but of a red herring, because the same scenario could have played out if they were counterfeiters, hackers, or bomb makers. Well, maybe not that last one.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;44953746]I don't think the officer knew that there was a baby right there.[/QUOTE] So fucking what? It's so shitty that everytime a cop does something horrible people jump in the thread to say something like "poor guy must feel so shitty for killing those 10 kindergartners" as if the person who fucked up is a victim. He's not the victim.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44953478]there's also people on welfare that live in big houses and own sports cars[/QUOTE] I'd like to see a photo of this creation of the Reagan era, please.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;44953775]So fucking what? It's so shitty that everytime a cop does something horrible people jump in the thread to say something like "poor guy must feel so shitty for killing those 10 kindergartners" as if the person who fucked up is a victim. He's not the victim.[/QUOTE] Lol the best part is is that he has a support group around him telling him about how there's nothing he could have done, and how it's okay, and how he was just following orders. Instead of anyone making him feel shitty like he deserves to feel and disgusted at the organization that he works for so that positive change can eventually start to happen.
I thought of you as normal people with different opinions, now you're just weirdos like a lot of people on this forum
[QUOTE=Binladen34;44952018]The kid took a flash bang to the face? The baby wont survive, there've been full grown adults killed by flashbangs before.[/QUOTE] Oh god, that poor kid :(
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;44953825]I thought of you as normal people with different opinions, now you're just weirdos like a lot of people on this forum[/QUOTE] That's nice continue dumbspamming people for saying that the perpetrator isn't the victim though.
it's not policy to throw a stun grenade into cribs, geniuses. if the policy were as such, then yeah, the system would be at fault. as it is, a man made a [b]mistake.[/b]
I'm not saying he's the victim but acting like he's bad for doing something he had no knowledge of and being against people that simply feel sorry for both the baby and the man who committed an accident is weird. I'm glad after all these years a lot of people in this forum and their opinions are irrelevant to actual outside life.
[QUOTE=geel9;44953868]it's not policy to throw a stun grenade into cribs, geniuses. if the policy were as such, then yeah, the system would be at fault. as it is, a man made a [b]mistake.[/b][/QUOTE] It is policy to blindly barge into homes with little forethought about possible consequences with flashbangs and guns blazing though. Justified though because they thought he had drugs and got a warrant.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;44952097]Absolutely. I have no respect for police officers. As humans, yes, I do respect them. Most of them are unaware that they're a part of a terrible maniacal organization. However, I have absolutely no respect whatsoever for the occupation or uniform.[/QUOTE] You'd probably be the first to cry for police help with your pants full of shit if something happened to you.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;44953898]Justified though because they [B]thought [/B]he had drugs and got a warrant.[/QUOTE] A judge doesn't give out warrants like candy. There had to of been more than a reasonable doubt for a warrant of any kind to be issued
[QUOTE=Sally;44953933]A judge doesn't give out warrants like candy. There had to of been more than a reasonable doubt for a warrant of any kind to be issued[/QUOTE] So? It was over possession of drugs and guns. Just because a judge issued a warrant doesn't mean they should be able to break the laws they're supposed to be upholding. Ever thought the guy should have looked before he threw the flashbang? Or before even thinking about the raid they should have checked who lived in the house to know there's a baby living there?
[QUOTE=zakedodead;44953967]Ever thought the guy should have looked before he threw the flashbang?[/QUOTE] Do you know what the purpose of flashbangs are? Including what scenarios they are used in?
[QUOTE=zakedodead;44953967]So? It was over possession of drugs and guns. Just because a judge issued a warrant doesn't mean they should be able to break the laws they're supposed to be upholding. Ever thought the guy should have looked before he threw the flashbang? Or before even thinking about the raid they should have checked who lived in the house to know there's a baby living there?[/QUOTE] yeah, he should have know the exact place of the crib and then if the baby was there or not, what if the baby was in another division of the house, they should also check if they had visits sleeping over, god, these cops are so inconsiderate
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