15 year old girl from Arkansas dead after prank gone wrong
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[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;43953654]You have any idea how hard it is to get streams of paper out of trees and shrubs? especially if the stuff gets wet, you aren't ever getting it out, it's going to be up there for months.
TPing/Egging/paintballing/whatever is never a prank. If you do dumb shit like this, be prepared for anything because stuff like what happened to this girl will eventually happen, and much more likely if you live in a seedy area.
If you want to scare a group of hooligans off with a gun (not that I recommend it), make sure the damn thing isn't loaded when you're waving it around. And if you must fire it, make sure it only has blanks and fire it at the ground or in the air where it isn't pointed at anyone christ.
Don't point a gun at anything you aren't willing to destroy.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it's a dick move to throw eggs and toilet paper, yes they are wrong for doing it. But you know what's even worse then that? Shooting a kid for throwing eggs and toilet paper. Both parties were wrong, one however...was extremely wrong.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;43953734]I never said it was acceptable, I just said prepare for anything, because anything can happen. The consequences for doing dumb things isn't always going to be a slap on the wrist.
You can't solely place the blame on the guy that came out of his house and shot at them. The situation would have never happened if the teenagers weren't doing something so stupid in the first place. It's not like the guy was actively going around the neighborhood and hunting them down.
While gun safety was a big issue here, so was bad parenting that people let their kids do and get away with stuff like this.[/QUOTE]
You honor I know the light was red for me but you see I would've never run him over if he didn't cross the street in the first place.
[QUOTE=General J;43956595]Well the chance is small but when that small chance could potentially harm or kill someone you should probably be taking it seriously? I hope you don't own a gun.[/QUOTE]
It's not like when people say that they're suggesting everyone to do it in that situation, or that it's the only other solution, but firing it up in the air is without a doubt a better decision than aiming it at another person for a variety of reasons.
Can someone explain to me how (or better yet if) this would fall under protecting your possessions?
I can understand (and I am to a certain degree for) protecting your house against intruders, pulling a gun on them to scare burglars away and to make sure they don't take anything you have. But after the damage has been done and the car has been egged, shooting won't protect your valuables anymore, the damage is already done. Shooting won't scare the kids off because they are already scared, they are running away and more importantly they finished what they came for.
In the end the guy shot for revenge, not for self defense not for protection and definitely not to scare anyone off. I agree "kids be kids" argument is bullshit and if you get caught you should get in trouble, but in this case the guy cannot be justified no matter what.
[QUOTE=Slarav;43956337]What is the chance a tiny object fired up to 2 kilometers up in the air is going to hit a person? Think of the factors involved. Its like saying "dont fart you might poison someone"
Not supporting this asshole at all, though. This guy is just crazy and probably an example of US gun laws being way too loose. Also their mental care system being shit. I dont know.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire#Notable_incidents"]More often than you think.[/URL] It doesn't matter how frequent or infrequent it occurs, theres still a chance you might kill a person doing it so you absolutely should not do it. This guy wasn't in any danger and there was no justification for him to fire at those persons or fire a warning shot. Had he actually been in danger, then he should have shot and killed whoever was trying to kill him. You do not own a firearm for self defense unless you're prepared to kill a person.
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[QUOTE=Blazedol;43957866]It's not like when people say that they're suggesting everyone to do it in that situation, or that it's the only other solution, but firing it up in the air is without a doubt a better decision than aiming it at another person for a variety of reasons.[/QUOTE]
No it's not a better decision, the unlucky round that killed the girl could have just as likely killed some other girl who wasn't even involved had the guy fired up in the air. The best option for the guy in question was to [b]not fire at all. [/b]
If you think firing at anything other than your target is OK, then you should never put your hands on a firearm.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43959858]No it's not a better decision, the unlucky round that killed the girl could have just as likely killed some other girl who wasn't even involved had the guy fired up in the air. The best option for the guy in question was to [b]not fire at all. [/b][/QUOTE]
How is it not a better decision? I guess it's not very smart, but if he shot it in the air the chances of someone dying are slimmer than if he did what he did.
[b]And I'm not saying it's the best option[/b], what I'm trying to say is that it's the option that would have been better. The best option possible would have been him yelling at them, and if that didn't work, pointing the gun at them at them, with the finger off the trigger and with the safety on. See what I'm getting at?
[QUOTE=Blazedol;43960096]How is it not a better decision? I guess it's not very smart, but if he shot it in the air the chances of someone dying are slimmer than if he did what he did.
[b]And I'm not saying it's the best option[/b], what I'm trying to say is that it's the option that would have been better. The best option possible would have been him yelling at them, and if that didn't work, pointing the gun at them at them, with the finger off the trigger and with the safety on. See what I'm getting at?[/QUOTE]
Or you could call the police and let them deal with it as a vandalism case, maybe try and take some photos of them to identify them.
There's no need to guns in petty shit like this, it's not like he was actually under any threat here.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;43962206]Or you could call the police and let them deal with it as a vandalism case, maybe try and take some photos of them to identify them.
There's no need to guns in petty shit like this, it's not like he was actually under any threat here.[/QUOTE]
Oh, right. I forgot about the police. Now I look dumb.
Dammit.
how do you throw mayonaisse
like the whole jar
or just handfuls
cuz that's really nasty.
Girl thrown egg at car and gets killed?
Same thing should have happened to Justin Bieber..
Okay, I get the whole vandalism thing but jesus fucking christ man. Is the paint on your car the same worth as a girl's entire life?
[QUOTE=Swog;43963653]Girl thrown egg at car and gets killed?
Same thing should have happened to Justin Bieber..[/QUOTE]
its like im actually reading a youtube comment
Deserved something, didn't deserve a gunshot.
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[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43964299]its like im actually reading a youtube comment[/QUOTE]
I forgot what those looked like. YouTube feather mode is where it's at.
[editline]18th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=EmperorKabuto;43962986]how do you throw mayonaisse
like the whole jar
or just handfuls
cuz that's really nasty.[/QUOTE]
imo should've been more just like a dump onto something
[editline]18th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;43953758]i love how fp always hates victim blaming
but when it involves "muh gun rights"
the gun owner is always in the right[/QUOTE]
We are not a hivemind.
RIP Adrian Broadway
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[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;43955788]oh no, someone has somewhat damaged some property and the police are too far away, better [i]end their life[/i] asap[/QUOTE]
Where exactly did i say that i was talking about this case?
If you have a brain of any kind, you would be able to properly read and notice i was talking about how it was mentioned that everything should be left for the police to handle.
In some cases, that works. But there are many many scenarios where civilian intervention can save lives, as well as keep a criminal from never being found
[QUOTE=Blazedol;43953709]I'm fairly certain that when a bullet comes back down it's no longer lethal. But I'm no professional gun owner.[/QUOTE]people being injured or dying from random sky bullets actually isn't uncommon, and it happens quite a bit during times like new years eve or 4th of july when people fire their guns off into the air like assholes.
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