The Ozone Layer in Antarctica is starting to heal itself - Polidicks

[IMG]http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/B1CD/production/_90171554_ozone1.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]The Antarctic ozone layer, which shields the Earth from harmful ultraviolet rays, shows encouraging signs that it's beginning to heal, according to research published in the journal Science. Scientists credit the healing to an international policy set nearly two decades ago that cut the production of ozone-destroying chemicals. That agreement -- the 1987 Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer -- called for the phase-out of substances including chlorofluorocarbons and halons, once present in refrigerators, aerosol cans and dry cleaning chemicals. "The ozone layer is expected to recover in response, albeit very slowly," wrote the researchers in the study which was released Thursday. "We can now be confident that the things we've done have put the planet on a path to heal," said Professor Susan Solomon of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who led the international team of researchers, in a statement. "We decided collectively, as a world, 'Let's get rid of these molecules'. We got rid of them, and now we're seeing the planet respond."[/QUOTE] Sources: [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36674996]BBC NEWS[/url] [url=http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/06/30/science.aae0061]Science Maganzine.org[/url] [url=http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/01/health/antarctic-ozone-layer-healing/]CNN[/url]

This is the prime example of what will happen, if ecological disasters are noticed and dealt with in time

see guys global warming is just some silly hoax made by those vandal greenies

[QUOTE=Elstumpo;50627232]see guys global warming is just some silly hoax made by those vandal greenies[/QUOTE] This has nothing to do with global warming though

[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;50627230]This is the prime example of what will happen, if ecological disasters are noticed and dealt with in time[/QUOTE] The Ozone layer could have been completely depleted and it'd still 'heal' eventually as long as we stopped using CFCs. So long as there's oxygen in the upper atmosphere there'll be ozone after a sufficient application of UV radiation and time.

I hate level-sized bosses that heal themselves such a bitch to finish off

It's encouraging to see that improvement is seen. I really hope emissions will be decreased too in the near future. Hell, I was working on an essay for geology, about sources of energy. Reading through the textbook was slightly motivating, reading about geothermal heating / cooling for buildings or energy production.

[QUOTE=sltungle;50627332]The Ozone layer could have been completely depleted and it'd still 'heal' eventually as long as we stopped using CFCs. So long as there's oxygen in the upper atmosphere there'll be ozone after a sufficient application of UV radiation and time.[/QUOTE] I thought ozone was created when oxygen-rich environments are exposed to high voltage arcs, such as lightning strikes?

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;50627317]This has nothing to do with global warming though[/QUOTE] But it IS a good example of one of things that anti-environmentalists claim "aren't caused by us and are just natural occurrences" when we do have control over it.

"well this means we can use CFCs again!"

Oh hey we did something good for once

Global Cooling is on its way.

[I]Ozma used Regen It's not very effective...[/I]

[QUOTE=BioWaster;50629248]Global Cooling is on its way.[/QUOTE] We won't have it for a few thousand years yet though

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50629384]We won't have it for a few thousand years yet though[/QUOTE] Its going to happen now, I want my god damn 2142 sequels already.

if we had reacted to other aspects of global climate change in time, could this have happened to say, the reefs? would they have healed, given time, too? im not very educated on this subject, so i'd love to know how this could have branched out if we'd reacted differently

[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;50628049]But it IS a good example of one of things that anti-environmentalists claim "aren't caused by us and are just natural occurrences" when we do have control over it.[/QUOTE] It is not a good example really - you're assuming that "anti-environmentalists" are uneducated and therefore incapable of distinguishing between two different phenomena. Did you consider that there are individuals that stand to make money from the whole green revolution in just the same way as the oil companies are when it comes to the opposite? The truth is to be found in the middle of their claims.

[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;50632804]It is not a good example really - you're assuming that "anti-environmentalists" are uneducated and therefore incapable of distinguishing between two different phenomena. Did you consider that there are individuals that stand to make money from the whole green revolution in just the same way as the oil companies are when it comes to the opposite? The truth is to be found in the middle of their claims.[/QUOTE] You'd have to be either uneducated or astoundingly ignorant to be an anti-environmentalist in this day and age. The money that anyone could get from green tech is completely incomparable to the kind of money that oil companies make.

[QUOTE=Anti Christ;50629525]if we had reacted to other aspects of global climate change in time, could this have happened to say, the reefs? would they have healed, given time, too? im not very educated on this subject, so i'd love to know how this could have branched out if we'd reacted differently[/QUOTE] AFAIK, we still have time to revert most of the damage to reefs. Most of them are currently bleached and not dead yet, which bleaching is a reversible process. But unlike the upper atmosphere, the sea is hella more biodiverse and more directly impactful on society as a whole (see food/fish supply, water quality, circulation of nutrient and regulation of global temperatures). Its going to be long and arduous, but its definitely feasible.

[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;50633993]You'd have to be either uneducated or astoundingly ignorant to be an anti-environmentalist in this day and age. The money that anyone could get from green tech is completely incomparable to the kind of money that oil companies make.[/QUOTE] Some anti-environmentalists have their beliefs due to wanting to defend capitalism/religious views. I'm not defending what they say, but it's silly to think that they're are all uneducated/ignorant, as some aren't.

DuPont saved it

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50634589]Some anti-environmentalists have their beliefs due to wanting to defend capitalism/religious views. I'm not defending what they say, but it's silly to think that they're are all uneducated/ignorant, as some aren't.[/QUOTE] valuing religion tends to mean valuing life in some sort of way. so taking poor care of the earth is idiotic. valuing capitalism means you understand that there needs to be a free and stable market. in the case of the honeybee, where our pesticides are largely responsible for the death of bees, which means 1/3 of our agricultural production/industry will fail without the pollination of plants, not caring for the earth is once again, idiotic.

[QUOTE=da space core;50634626]valuing religion tends to mean valuing life in some sort of way. so taking poor care of the earth is idiotic. valuing capitalism means you understand that there needs to be a free and stable market. in the case of the honeybee, where our pesticides are largely responsible for the death of bees, which means 1/3 of our agricultural production/industry will fail without the pollination of plants, not caring for the earth is once again, idiotic.[/QUOTE] They're as capable of being idiotic as every other human is.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50634589]Some anti-environmentalists have their beliefs due to wanting to defend capitalism/religious views. I'm not defending what they say, but it's silly to think that they're are all uneducated/ignorant, as some aren't.[/QUOTE] Its funny you mention that considering the Bible basically says to take care of the Earth. [URL="http://biblehub.com/genesis/2-15.htm"]Several[/URL] [URL="http://biblehub.com/revelation/11-18.htm"]times[/URL] infact. Those who cite anti-environmentalism in context to religion are usually the republican conservative christian types.

[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;50632804]Did you consider that there are individuals that stand to make money from the whole green revolution in just the same way as the oil companies are when it comes to the opposite?[/QUOTE] The difference is one destroys the planet. [QUOTE=ph:lxyz;50632804]The truth is to be found in the middle of their claims.[/QUOTE] Also this is a fallacy.

inb4 ice age. It is pretty cool though

[QUOTE=Elstumpo;50627232]see guys global warming is just some silly hoax made by those vandal greenies[/QUOTE] no one really thinks the ozone depleting is a hoax [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol[/URL] [quote] Due to its widespread adoption and implementation it has been hailed as an example of exceptional international co-operation, with Kofi Annan quoted as saying that "perhaps the single most successful international agreement to date has been the Montreal Protocol".[/quote] It just shows what we can do and how fast we can do it when most of the earth focuses on something that matters.

When it comes to "destroying the planet", if you are not religious or spiritual, then as part of your world view, you have to recognise that objectively, life (human or otherwise) is not special - and therefore its destruction is ultimately irrelevant to you. What you do care about however, is having a nice clean environment for you, and those you care about, to exist within. Therefore, what you actually care about is not necessarily "the planet". If however we look at it from a spiritual point of view, religious or not, then yes, it makes sense to take care of the planet objectively, since it's the only one we have and we should give a damn for the sake of others. However, and this is the bottom line here - the majority of what you see about "saving the planet" has nothing to do with actually treating nature with respect and has everything to do with selfish individuals who want to show everyone that they're doing a good thing and are therefore valuable themselves. Most of it is virtue signalling. If you try to do anything decent to actually decontaminate the environment or try to find good sources of alternative energy on this planet, then the very same institutions that are supposedly trying to "green things up" will hunt you down and take you out since they themselves are best friends with big oil - they themselves want to cash in on the "green revolution" - and they don't need you taking away any of their credit for doing so anyway. It's nice to be idealist and "oooh I'm helping to save the trees" but don't forget that there are just as many people who won't actually let you save the trees if you try since it impacts their bottom line. The whole thing annoys me to no end. We could decontaminate this planet easily if we wanted to, the technologies exist. It is quite simply not allowed. If you disagree, I suggest you put your smartphone down and start paying more attention to reality. The world doesn't work the way you think it does. It's dog eat dog. Always. It's too late to matter whether Global Warming(TM) began as a hoax or not - because it's big business now... dare I say.. a Religion?

[QUOTE=Elstumpo;50627232]see guys global warming is just some silly hoax made by those vandal greenies[/QUOTE]Just to be clear, you do mean that sarcastically right?