• Smoking high strength cannabis may damage nerve fibres in brain: Study suggests high levels of skunk
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[QUOTE=Furioso;49194861]Ever met an alcoholic? It can do both.[/QUOTE] Late to the party, but yeah. After seeing a brain affected by Korsakoff's syndrome in my neuropsych class, alcohol is no joke when abused.
I certainly feel this way after smoking skunk for 4 years. Wonder if the damage is reversible
I had a friend in the gifted program when I was growing up. He was always an oddball but after he got into smoking pot he really fucked himself up. He got into it at age 15 and by the time we were seniors he was practically a completely different person, with a scattered train of thought and unable to meet any of his obligations. He was thrown out of school for a semester for being intoxicated on campus. Anyway, despite the anecdote, I don't blame the drug. He got into it at too young an age, yeah, but he also ignored the advice and help of every positive influence in his life. I was his best childhood friend, and the incident which resulted in his temporary expulsion happened just a couple of days after I tried to talk some sense into him while giving him a ride home in my Jeep. I have no doubt that if he had never smoked pot, he would have found some other habit to destroy himself with because he just refused to take responsibility for his own wellbeing.
What this study doesn't mention is that [URL="http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443713704577601532208760746"]your brain is still growing and developing, all the way up until your late 20s[/URL]. Any significant damage you do in the meantime means you're fucked for life. Not saying one should wait to smoke pot until you're 28, but it's useful data that's definitely important to remember. [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] So in a way, the stereotype of "teenage stoners end up with the cognitive abilities of a newborn puppy as an adult" exists for a (solid) reason, whether you like it or not.
[QUOTE=Mr_Ripper;49194911]My girlfriend smokes weed and it does great things for her. My father smokes weed and he's one of the most disgusting, awful, abysmal human beings I've ever met. I've seen both sides of that and honestly I'm pretty indifferent to the whole ordeal. I just understand it's a huge hot topic.[/QUOTE] It's a very good point, cannabis effects everyone in a different way. Your unlikely to meet someone who has an identical effect to yourself. It's down to personal moderation. Some people are okay smoking everyday, others not, maybe once a week at the most. Even if the Internet tells you its safe, if you come off it and your anxious for example, you need to stop or moderate. Anxiety can be a huge problem for certain people, but as I mentioned, everyone if different. Stay safe guys
[QUOTE=Camdude90;49195020]no no no no no, you have to follow their narrative, all people who smoke weed are stoners who think weed is good for you and they're all retarded[/QUOTE] no no no no no, you have to follow their narrative, all people who are even slightly against weed don't understand, big pharma, paper industry, wake up sheeple, magic cure-all, cures cancer, better than alcohol.. Both sides of this coin do exist, it's a topic with large amounts of misinformation on both sides. Weed is a mildly dangerous drug at worst and deserves to be legalized but the idea that it's completely harmless is laughable at best. The only stoners I know who don't agree that it's at least mildly addictive in some sense and generally bad for your health at least to some degree are head of ass conspiracy theorist tier people. Drugs are a very personal experience for people, I mean look at how alcohol effects people, some get violent, some get sad, some are happy, etc.. It's an entirely personal experience and when people discredit something as harmless because of how it effects them and their select group of people to affirm their view, things get messy. [QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;49195577]So you're telling me smoking highly concentrated THC strains is bad for me, almost like how drinking high concentrated alcohol drinks like moonshine is worse than lighter ones like beer? I smoke weed and I don't ever plan on smoking dabs/wax because of the thc content, plus I'm just not that into extreme THC contents, it makes me paranoid and anxious. To me it sounds like it's pointing out how bad abusing THC intake is, which idk is the point of the definition of abuse, doing something so much it causes harm. Weed isn't for everyone and for those that enjoy it, make sure you enjoy it responsibly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Deaglez7;49194823]Still better than alcohol[/QUOTE] always found it weird when people would say "yeah but alcohol is legal and its more harmful than weed" doesnt that mean we should be putting more emphasis on making alcohol illegal
[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49196562]always found it weird when people would say "yeah but alcohol is legal and its more harmful than weed" doesnt that mean we should be putting more emphasis on making alcohol illegal[/QUOTE] Except [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States]that didn't work...[/url] Turns out that when people have been using a substance for a long time, they get really damn crabby when you try and take it away from them, and there are those who are more than willing to sell it to them regardless.
No wonder I'm so stupid. The cannabis is fucking up my brain compartments and departments so I can't even think a thought.
i smoke it to slow my thoughts down anyway so :alien:
[QUOTE=bananarBanana;49196562]always found it weird when people would say "yeah but alcohol is legal and its more harmful than weed" doesnt that mean we should be putting more emphasis on making alcohol illegal[/QUOTE] no it means that by the standards already in place, weed should logically be legal
The title is weird. It suggests that generally white matter is compromised, but there are white matter tracts all throughout the brain, not just across the corpus callosum. Furthermore, injury to the corpus callosum proper isn't [I]that[/I] bad. It's been severed (called commissurotomy) to treat extreme forms of epilepsy. One interesting phenomenon called the split-brain has been observed after a commissurotomy. The brief explanation is that breaking communication between the two hemispheres effectively creates two separate consciousnesses! The short version: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMLzP1VCANo[/media] The Long version: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGwsAdS9Dc[/media] Basically, the coherency of our consciousness is divisible to a certain degree. [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] Oh, a damaged corpus callosum does [B]not[/B] affect your intelligence!
I'm just gonna wait until the real studies start coming in. Things like these are always filled with bias, and most information regarding weed in either good or bad is bullshit. No doubt the plant is arguably the safest substance know to mankind with the exception of maybe Mescaline.
Awesome, now I can feel much better about smoking shitty weed that doesn't even taste like weed! [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Megadave;49196913]I'm just gonna wait until the real studies start coming in. Things like these are always filled with bias, and most information regarding weed in either good or bad is bullshit. No doubt the plant is arguably the safest substance know to mankind with the exception of maybe Mescaline.[/QUOTE] Real studies? Dude, it's the scanned images of brains baked out of their skulls. It definitely adds or corrects knowledge. [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] Also someone said something about the study being anecdotal..? Wasn't there more than just one brain on drugs in this study?
[QUOTE=Vaught;49195894]Late to the party, but yeah. After seeing a brain affected by Korsakoff's syndrome in my neuropsych class, alcohol is no joke when abused.[/QUOTE] I once had to take care of a patient with Korsakoff's. Needless to say its one of the few reasons I decided to not become a doctor.
I just find it funny how everyone always takes the negatives about weed as fact without refuting it, yet when there are many studies about the positives everyone says there needs to be more studies and tests. [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] -- Besides, Skunk is a different class of weed on it's own, I'd consider it as different as indica is to satvia. . It's genetics are just a little too fucky for my taste.
[QUOTE=Megadave;49197112]I just find it funny how everyone always takes the negatives about weed as fact without refuting it, yet when there are many studies about the positives everyone says there needs to be more studies and tests. [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] Besides, Skunk is a different class of weed on it's own, I'd consider it as different as indica is to satvia. It's genetics are just a little too fucky for my taste.[/QUOTE] Well, the difference between you and I is that you actually get to browse and choose which strain to smoke, with probably better pricing per weight as well. I just smoke whatever the dealer's got, which is pretty good shit every time tho.
Good thing I stick to the mids for most of my smoking. That skunky punky stanky danky is for special occassions.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAlNrtcPCLw[/media]
[QUOTE=Megadave;49196913]I'm just gonna wait until the real studies start coming in. Things like these are always filled with bias, and most information regarding weed in either good or bad is bullshit. No doubt the plant is arguably the safest substance know to mankind with the exception of maybe Mescaline.[/QUOTE] "I'm gonna wait for the [i]real studies [/i] thay conveniently fall in line with my pre-conceived notions that Weed is harmless."
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49197898]"I'm gonna wait for the [i]real studies [/i] thay conveniently fall in line with my pre-conceived notions that Weed is harmless."[/QUOTE] You said it not me. Apparently it's only ok to be narrow minded when it comes to dissing weed. It's ok to have pre-concieved notions that weed is a dangerous drug, but when I think it's harmless I'm the one being narrow minded.
too much of anything is bad, this is hardly news
Any 'medical' article that coins terms such as 'skunk-like cannabis' should be taken with a grain of salt. To elaborate: the way THC acts on our brains heavily depends on both our genes and the combination of THC with other cannabinoids. Coining terms such as 'skunk-like cannabis' is very vague and not accaptable for a medical article that wants to take it's self serious. So what is 'skunk-like cannabis', because 'Skunk' is a cultivar that has had so many offsprings the past decades such as Shiva Skunk, Super Skunk, etc...
[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;49198125]Any 'medical' article that coins terms such as 'skunk-like cannabis' should be taken with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE] Hahaha, holy fuck I didn't even notice how weird that is. I'm too used to stoner talk now.
[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;49198125]Any 'medical' article that coins terms such as 'skunk-like cannabis' should be taken with a grain of salt. To elaborate: the way THC acts on our brains heavily depends on both our genes and the combination of THC with other cannabinoids. Coining terms such as 'skunk-like cannabis' is very vague and not accaptable for a medical article that wants to take it's self serious. So what is 'skunk-like cannabis', because 'Skunk' is a cultivar that has had so many offsprings the past decades such as Shiva Skunk, Super Skunk, etc...[/QUOTE] "Y'know, bro-ham! The sticky-icky dankity-skank, yo!"
[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;49197977]too much of anything is bad, this is hardly news[/QUOTE] Finally, someone who gets it.
[QUOTE=Furioso;49194809]Same article: Heh! Also, they discuss their observations, but don't propose potential effects of the disrupted communication between the brain's hemispheres. Haven't there been people who've had that connection severed entirely, with little to no effect on their lives?[/QUOTE] not really normally, they can function but it's fucking weird [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx53Zj7EKQE[/url] Like his right half brain receives visual input, but he can't consciously talk about it because the language centers are on the left side of the brain. It's pretty weird.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;49195577]So you're telling me smoking highly concentrated THC strains is bad for me, almost like how drinking high concentrated alcohol drinks like moonshine is worse than lighter ones like beer? I smoke weed and I don't ever plan on smoking dabs/wax because of the thc content, plus I'm just not that into extreme THC contents, it makes me paranoid and anxious. To me it sounds like it's pointing out how bad abusing THC intake is, which idk is the point of the definition of abuse, doing something so much it causes harm. Weed isn't for everyone and for those that enjoy it, make sure you enjoy it responsibly.[/QUOTE] It's amazing to me that in 2015 we're still focused on THC = weed. There are tens if not hundreds of unique canabinoids in each plant, so it's a no-brainer that when we synthesize just one of them and crank up the dosage it's going to behave differently than just smoking a bunch of pot
Not really surprising, pulling smoke into your body, which has no place there in the first case, causes brain damage? Totes surprise there. Even if you begin to refute the point that Marijuana smoke =//= brain/lung damage, and why would you do this?, pulling chemicals into your system that alters your brain should be enough of an warning bell for anyone who can draw a logical conclusion, alone. Same goes for alcohol, tobacco, energy drinks/caffeine etc, of course. No drug out there, whether it is prescribed, illegally obtained or any other alternative, is completely free from side effects. But hey, guess it's hip to "fight da system man, marijuana = no gubmit cuntrul w0w"
[QUOTE=The fox;49199626]Not really surprising, pulling smoke into your body, which has no place there in the first case, causes brain damage? Totes surprise there. Even if you begin to refute the point that Marijuana smoke =//= brain/lung damage, and why would you do this?, pulling chemicals into your system that alters your brain should be enough of an warning bell for anyone who can draw a logical conclusion, alone. Same goes for alcohol, tobacco, energy drinks/caffeine etc, of course. No drug out there, whether it is prescribed, illegally obtained or any other alternative, is completely free from side effects. But hey, guess it's hip to "fight da system man, marijuana = no gubmit cuntrul w0w"[/QUOTE] I think you and the people who say "pots totally harmless" are wrong. In fact, I'd put you in the same boat as them thanks to your ridiculous shit in this post [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] Like asking for weed to be regulated like alcohol is "fight the power" to you? Holy shit bruh
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