• Smoking high strength cannabis may damage nerve fibres in brain: Study suggests high levels of skunk
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Seeing as the everyday twat in our society most likely has caffeine from their coffee in the morning, digests chemicals in processed foods for artifical flavor and most likely has alcohol with the lads every few days all cannabis would be doing is adding fuel to a already gigantic fire. Don't even get me started on the presceiption meds a that a large chunk of US population must be reliant on.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;49200276]Seeing as the everyday twat in our society most likely has caffeine from their coffee in the morning, digests chemicals in processed foods for artifical flavor and most likely has alcohol with the lads every few days all cannabis would be doing is adding fuel to a already gigantic fire. Don't even get me started on the presceiption meds a that a large chunk of US population must be reliant on.[/QUOTE] The point is that society - for the most part - works fine even with all of these drugs constantly being used, and it does where drugs are more or less legalized aswell. People in the US relying on prescription drugs is not an issue rooted in the legal status of them.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;49200276]Seeing as the everyday twat in our society most likely has caffeine from their coffee in the morning, digests chemicals in processed foods for artifical flavor and most likely has alcohol with the lads every few days all cannabis would be doing is adding fuel to a already gigantic fire. Don't even get me started on the presceiption meds a that a large chunk of US population must be reliant on.[/QUOTE] Those awful 'twats' who use caffeine and eat bacon, what terrible people.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49200733]Those awful 'twats' who use caffeine and eat bacon, what terrible people.[/QUOTE] Tell that to "The Fox" up there anything is bad in his books
[QUOTE=Kazumi;49196889]The title is weird. It suggests that generally white matter is compromised, but there are white matter tracts all throughout the brain, not just across the corpus callosum. Furthermore, injury to the corpus callosum proper isn't [I]that[/I] bad. It's been severed (called commissurotomy) to treat extreme forms of epilepsy. One interesting phenomenon called the split-brain has been observed after a commissurotomy. The brief explanation is that breaking communication between the two hemispheres effectively creates two separate consciousnesses! The short version: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMLzP1VCANo[/media] The Long version: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGwsAdS9Dc[/media] Basically, the coherency of our consciousness is divisible to a certain degree. [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] Oh, a damaged corpus callosum does [B]not[/B] affect your intelligence![/QUOTE] I was gonna bring that up. Maybe the stuff could be used to help manage epilepsy.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;49200797]I was gonna bring that up. Maybe the stuff could be used to help manage epilepsy.[/QUOTE] It is.
[QUOTE=Mr_Ripper;49194817]I look forward to seeing stoners trying to refute this, and the anti-stoners calling them idiots.[/QUOTE] Dunno, been smoking for a year now (about once a week) and there are definitely times where I can't remember a simple word or explain a thought when I usually could. Not often but it does feel odd. Still worth it, though.
[QUOTE=The fox;49199626]Not really surprising, pulling smoke into your body, which has no place there in the first case, causes brain damage? Totes surprise there. Even if you begin to refute the point that Marijuana smoke =//= brain/lung damage, and why would you do this?, pulling chemicals into your system that alters your brain should be enough of an warning bell for anyone who can draw a logical conclusion, alone. Same goes for alcohol, tobacco, energy drinks/caffeine etc, of course. No drug out there, whether it is prescribed, illegally obtained or any other alternative, is completely free from side effects. But hey, guess it's hip to "fight da system man, marijuana = no gubmit cuntrul w0w"[/QUOTE] You're just shutting down debate before it can develop. You know no more about this shit than the average stoner.
Fuck, I enjoy smoking weed from time to time but I'm getting really sick of these "Marihuana is the cure for cancer!!!!" or "Smoking pot will cure x"... Marihuane is not 'healthy' for you, I mean, you're inhaling stuff affecting your whole body. But that's fine, you know? Not everything we do should be extremely healthy. From time to time, we should all do something that isn't healthy per say, but not extremely dangerous either. Eat a bar of chocolate, drink some beer, smoke some pot... Whatever you like. But please for the love of god stop trying to convince each other that pot is either making you the healthiest person alive or signing your death warrant.
[QUOTE=Kazumi;49196889]Oh, a damaged corpus callosum does [B]not[/B] affect your intelligence![/QUOTE] ok? does it mean you should be okay with potentially screwing it up?
[QUOTE=Saturn V;49203856]ok? does it mean you should be okay with potentially screwing it up?[/QUOTE] The real question is, is it really a big loss? Hell, I'm reading here that doctors deliberately cut the thing to stop/reduce seizures. Point being, doctors say it [I][B]MAY[/B][/I] damage the connection. People like to take may as absolutely, which is not logical.
[QUOTE=Kazumi;49196889]The title is weird. It suggests that generally white matter is compromised, but there are white matter tracts all throughout the brain, not just across the corpus callosum. Furthermore, injury to the corpus callosum proper isn't [I]that[/I] bad. It's been severed (called commissurotomy) to treat extreme forms of epilepsy. One interesting phenomenon called the split-brain has been observed after a commissurotomy. The brief explanation is that breaking communication between the two hemispheres effectively creates two separate consciousnesses! The short version: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMLzP1VCANo[/media] The Long version: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGwsAdS9Dc[/media] Basically, the coherency of our consciousness is divisible to a certain degree. [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] Oh, a damaged corpus callosum does [B]not[/B] affect your intelligence![/QUOTE] While this is true, It has been noted that severing the corpus callosum DOES have a negative effect. [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain#Hemispheric_specialization]"It is important to note that the simple reaction time in split-brained patients, even with enhanced redundancy gain, is slower than the reaction time of normal adults."[/url]
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;49204469]While this is true, It has been noted that severing the corpus callosum DOES have a negative effect. [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain#Hemispheric_specialization]"It is important to note that the simple reaction time in split-brained patients, even with enhanced redundancy gain, is slower than the reaction time of normal adults."[/url][/QUOTE] I'll be sure not to become a police officer or fighter-pilot then.
Smoking all pot will damage your brain. It's replacing oxygen, which your body actually needs to survive.
[QUOTE=Ridge;49204573]Smoking all the pot will damage your brain. It's replacing oxygen, which your body actually needs to survive.[/QUOTE] ftfy
[QUOTE=Ridge;49204573]Smoking all pot will damage your brain. It's replacing oxygen, which your body actually needs to survive.[/QUOTE] Its true, if you smoke enough pot you'll soon become more THC than man.
[QUOTE=Saturn V;49203856]ok? does it mean you should be okay with potentially screwing it up?[/QUOTE] Pretty much yeah. You won't die from it nor get dumber. [QUOTE=Gray Altoid;49204469]While this is true, It has been noted that severing the corpus callosum DOES have a negative effect. [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain#Hemispheric_specialization]"It is important to note that the simple reaction time in split-brained patients, even with enhanced redundancy gain, is slower than the reaction time of normal adults."[/url][/QUOTE] Indeed. The worry in this thread was mostly about general intelligence which is why I only addressed it.
I dont think that any of us can give anything except anecdotal evidence supporting or disagreeing with the position that cannabis fucks up your brain more than smoking anything else does.
[QUOTE=mecaguy03;49205335]I dont think that any of us can give anything except anecdotal evidence supporting or disagreeing with the position that cannabis fucks up your brain more than smoking anything else does.[/QUOTE] No I think there's pretty solid medical evidence that smoking weed is nothing compared to crack or meth...
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49194832]That may be a bit strong, but some of them tend to be dim-witted for sure... [editline]26th November 2015[/editline] You'd be fucking up your liver instead of your brain, in that case.[/QUOTE] Just go to low strength cannabis then and make sure you're at least twenty one so you don't get brain damage.
After having some incredibly strong Indica I'm having a hard time seeing how, at least that particular strain, wouldn't damage your brain over time.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;49205793]After having some incredibly strong Indica I'm having a hard time seeing how, at least that particular strain, wouldn't damage your brain over time.[/QUOTE] [i]Your[/i]. You don't know how everyone else reacts to that strain.
Christ I honestly would not be bothered to respond to this thread but its just a fling of "ugh alcohol is SO MUCH WORSE anyway" and "wow cant wait to see the pot supporters try to get out of this one ;)" The article says that there's a 2% mean diffusivity in the corpus callosum. I'm not going to pretend like I have a doctorates, but it's not really much to be worried about if you're not a chronic (or much to worry about in the first place). Drugs affect your brain! Who would have guessed? But what the article does [B]not[/B] say is that alcohol is better, or that weed is dangerous because of this. I don't know why a majority of comments in this thread keep bringing it up like they're getting personally attacked. No fucking shit alcohol is worse and weed is by far the least harmful drug you shouldn't worry about. All this article says is that your brain gets affected by weed. There are people who dab literally every fucking day (90%+ THC) and they're completely functional and healthy, so just smoke it and quit acting like this article is going to give heavy ground to anti-pot parties
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;49200797]I was gonna bring that up. Maybe the stuff could be used to help manage epilepsy.[/QUOTE] Holy shit, I have a friend who had seizures for a good portion of her life at semi-random intervals, usually because of stress and she started smoking and it effectively worked the same as her medicine in a broader way. She'd been taking pharmaceuticals before that, required her to have a strict daily and afternoon schedule or she'd be at risk to have one. She hasn't had a seizure since she started smoking though, and she's had to quit on and off. I'm not sure if she still takes her medicine but she didn't when we hung out more actively. [editline]29th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=gee;49206781] There are people who dab literally every fucking day (90%+ THC) and they're completely functional and healthy, so just smoke it and quit acting like this article is going to give heavy ground to anti-pot parties[/QUOTE] There are people who primarily dab on YouTube and manage to run that by themselves and make a good bit of money doing that AND maintain other jobs.
Is this study saying that if you get incredibly high on anything then the white matter dissappears? Or is it saying that if you smoke just like a hit of concentrated stuff, say wax, the white matter dissappears? I'm a little confused
[QUOTE=shadowdude14;49209535]Is this study saying that if you get incredibly high on anything then the white matter dissappears? Or is it saying that if you smoke just like a hit of concentrated stuff, say wax, the white matter dissappears? I'm a little confused[/QUOTE] and how long is this white matter gone/damaged for? Does it return after not smoking? and how long afterwards does it return? Does it come back even better when it returns? We must look at this from all aspects.
[QUOTE=gee;49206781]Christ I honestly would not be bothered to respond to this thread but its just a fling of "ugh alcohol is SO MUCH WORSE anyway" and "wow cant wait to see the pot supporters try to get out of this one ;)" The article says that there's a 2% mean diffusivity in the corpus callosum. I'm not going to pretend like I have a doctorates, but it's not really much to be worried about if you're not a chronic (or much to worry about in the first place). Drugs affect your brain! Who would have guessed? But what the article does [B]not[/B] say is that alcohol is better, or that weed is dangerous because of this. I don't know why a majority of comments in this thread keep bringing it up like they're getting personally attacked. No fucking shit alcohol is worse and weed is by far the least harmful drug you shouldn't worry about. All this article says is that your brain gets affected by weed. There are people who dab literally every fucking day (90%+ THC) and they're completely functional and healthy, so just smoke it and quit acting like this article is going to give heavy ground to anti-pot parties[/QUOTE] I don't see anyone claiming that pot is a brain-destroying drug or even that it's worse than alcohol. I see a lot of people defending it as 'well it's still better than alcohol' and 'well as a smoker anybody who thought it's [i]totally harmless[/i] is an idiot' whereas every thread touting some new positive effect of weed is full of MIRACLE WONDER DRUG GOOD FOR YOU EVIL CORPORATIONS WHY ISN'T IT LEGAL YET. The only reason we have news articles about things like a 2% difference is because there are actually people who claim in all sincerity that marijuana is a harmless wonder plant because they've been smoking since high school and feel fine. When there's a thread about how weed can be beneficial, it's a circlejerk about how amazing the plant is and there's always someone who claims it has no negative effects. When there's a thread about how weed can be harmful, it's a bunch of comments about how well nobody said it was totally harmless. It reads like backpedaling. Most of us are in favor of weed legalization, but many of us have problems with the image some pro-weed activists promote of weed being these harmless miracle cure that's totally safe for everyone. Even statements as innocuous as 'I think you should have to be 21 to smoke weed' and 'I think you shouldn't drive while high' meet opposition. The only time these people ever stop with the borderline propaganda is in a thread that shows negative effects of weed... and then out come the 'well it's better than alcohol' defenses.
remember just because you loose connections between hemispheres does not make it a bad thing. the article was a bit rigged to sound bad. my current level of knowledge of neuroscience tells me this improves your brains ability to 'prune' which in the neuromorphic community is considered a good thing (allows your brain to reorganize, change your priorities, remember more essential information, and have clear thought patterns); mind you, when you are younger, how can anyone assume this is a good thing. my honest opinion is that you cannot trust this article to be either truth nor fact, and you cannot assume any concrete findings here to be bad nor good. we simply no nothing about the brain. we haven't the slightest fucking clue how memory works. trust me I am in the middle of it right now. so in the end, smoke up. don't smoke skunk and smoke in moderation. the human race has been on drugs for tens of thousands of years, no point in stopping now.
Where has durgs discussion gone?
[QUOTE=The DooD;49211075]Where has durgs discussion gone?[/QUOTE] the way of the dildo my friend
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