What the fuck of the week: Sex-torturer faces chemical castration for abducting, raping woman
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[QUOTE=The golden;44129082]Take him out back and blow his brains out?
The bullet would be more valuable than he is.[/QUOTE]
Because crime and punishment is as open and shut as putting a gun to someone's head and pulling the trigger, right?
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;44133027]I'm a fucking human that's what i am. I'm a human seeing that what another human is doing is not something a human does. what did we do to the nazis who did this shit in WW2 to prisoners? we fucking killed them. why should he get a break? because he didn't do it to as many people? no. he's broken. he cannot be remedied. he. is not. a human. anymore.
fuck you for defending this worthless sack of shit. he fucking TORTURES PEOPLE. FOR FUN.[/QUOTE]
you need to settle down
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;44133027]I'm a fucking human that's what i am. I'm a human seeing that what another human is doing is not something a human does. what did we do to the nazis who did this shit in WW2 to prisoners? we fucking killed them. why should he get a break? because he didn't do it to as many people? no. he's broken. he cannot be remedied. he. is not. a human. anymore.
fuck you for defending this worthless sack of shit. he fucking TORTURES PEOPLE. FOR FUN.[/QUOTE]
Overly furious pathos 101.
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;44132859]you can't fix people like this. locking them up is a waste of money. chemical castration sucks but what the fuck else is there to do?[/QUOTE]
Its not like that stops them from hurting people. If anything, castrating the wrong guys will cost you 10x more.
[QUOTE=Doomish;44132991]lock him up without doing that because it's unnecessary?
people love to parrot "it's a waste of money to keep people like this alive!!!" but whose money is it even a waste of, it's one person[/QUOTE]
Everyone's money?
Prisoners are usually cared for by the Government who get their money from taxes collected from citizens.
Or do prison meals and checmical castration drugs just magically grow on trees?
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Or do prison meals and checmical castration drugs just magically grow on trees?[/QUOTE]
So you want to just kill people to save money? Don't you think rehabilitation and the imprisoned innocent exist?
[QUOTE=Oizen;44133508]Everyone's money?
Prisoners are usually cared for by the Government who get their money from taxes collected from citizens.
Or do prison meals and checmical castration drugs just magically grow on trees?[/QUOTE]
ok, and does taking a fraction of that money to put toward the care of that one person affect you even the slightest bit?
He's clearly a danger to women, a predator in the truest sense of the word. He'll do this again first chance he gets. So it'd be best for all concerned if he's never let out.
In prison though he'll be amongst men. I don't see what the chemical castration is supposed to accomplish other than having the state be able to mess with his weener. If the prosecutor is into that sort of thing who am I to judge I guess.
Was expecting chemical castration to be something like pouring acid on his dick and melting it off, but instead it just kills his libido and makes him grow bitch tits
or just pour sulfuric acid down his esophagus and just leave him to stew in his own muck
[QUOTE=confinedUser;44134267]or just pour sulfuric acid down his esophagus and just leave him to stew in his own muck[/QUOTE]
Yeah, because that doesn't lower the justice system to the level of the perpetrator.
Jesus fucking Christ, it's like you people don't have any idea why we have a system of courts and justice rather than just '"HE A HURRTIC! BURN'EM!".
I don't get the silly people that say that no person has the right to decide if someone lost his humanity or not
If we as part of the human race can't decide that, then who can?
Personally, I think he should be executed.
I love how death penalty arguments on Facepunch always turn into: "Execute him! Waste of life!" "He's a human you're dehumanizing him!" "He deserves it!" "He needs rehabilitation for his mental security/well-being/whatever name you people come up with for mental health you monster!".
Chemical castration seems like a pretty archaic punishment.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44132802]I thought it was well known that the death penalty is more expensive due to the extended legal process.
Unless you advocate killing people [B]without[/B] extensively making sure that you've got the right person?[/quote]
I wouldn't advocate the death penalty in any case where we didn't know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're guilty. We've already established that here.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;44135506]I love how death penalty arguments on Facepunch always turn into: "Execute him! Waste of life!" "He's a human you're dehumanizing him!" "He deserves it!" "He needs rehabilitation for his mental security/well-being/whatever name you people come up with for mental health you monster!".[/QUOTE]
Actually from what I've seen, [B][I][U]most[/U][/I][/B] of facepunch actually thinks that anyone can be rehabilitated.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44135527]Actually from what I've seen, most of facepunch actually thinks that anyone can be rehabilitated.[/QUOTE]
This and the most vocal supporters were shitposters like thisispain who drown out and take a dump on whoever disagreed with the notion.
This case is like everyone's nightmare to handle.
I generally disagree to death sentence because I believe in rehabilitation... but even if this guy was "re-habbed", we couldn't run the risk of setting him free again. Then, what are our choices.
A) We put a death sentence on the guy. Victim doesn't exactly feel better(She'll probably have PTSD until the end of her life, with extreme paranoia to boot, dead or living). It's maybe the less expensive solution (Even though death sentence is generally super expensive for some reasons)
B)We lock him up for life, effectively costing us a tremendous amount of resources to keep him well fed in his prison cell. We can't allow ourselves to set him free, because too much risk of repeating the offense. So basically everyone pays for this nutjob to live better off than some poor americans.
C)We chemically castrate him. No proof of effects, no 100% certainty he won't commit the same crime again. We lock him up for a bit... doesn't change much from B.
D)He pleads non-guilty for insanity, gets thrown into an asylum where he's force fed pills everyday. Again, tremendous resources.
What the fuck is there to do.
Okay so I just wanted to let y'all know something because of something the guy above said...PTSD is not an incurable terminal disease. Every individual has the ability to recover from Trauma through proper treatment and personal effort. I think it's an affront to individuals who suffer to say something like "they'll never get better oh the horror". It's this kind of thinking that keeps people from seeking treatment/following through with.
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;44132880]I like how people are suggesting a cruel punishment like the death penalty simply because keeping him alive costs money. That's not inhumane at all.[/QUOTE]
This is cruel and inhumane:
[QUOTE=confinedUser;44134267]or just pour sulfuric acid down his esophagus and just leave him to stew in his own muck[/QUOTE]
Hanging is quick and relatively painless, and I'd argue its no worse than spending the rest of your life pacing a tiny room.
I don't know why but eye for an eye just seems so satisfying for some reason ...
[QUOTE=Feuver;44135554]This case is like everyone's nightmare to handle.
A) We put a death sentence on the guy. Victim doesn't exactly feel better(She'll probably have PTSD until the end of her life, with extreme paranoia to boot, dead or living). It's maybe the less expensive solution (Even though death sentence is generally super expensive for some reasons)
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The victim is going to be traumatized regardless, but I'd greatly prefer the state spend money rehabilitating her than taking care of the guy who did it.
[QUOTE=Mebit;44131030]Wow Facepunch. Way to go full-North-Korean-human-rights-abuses.
What happened was horrific, but horrific punishments make the justice system EXACTLY as horrific as the people it condemns.
He's already going to live in a shoebox while thinking about what he did every day until the day he dies. Thats at least 33 years.[/QUOTE]
You're making the assumption that the man is genuinely sorry. Just because he got caught doesn't mean he's suddenly turned all remorseful.
Not saying we should execute people or shit like that, but the whole "think about what you've done" mentality is inherently flawed.
[QUOTE=Gudgeon;44135604]I don't know why but eye for an eye just seems so satisfying for some reason ...[/QUOTE]
Honored by your first post.
I agree; it sounds satisfying whilst reading about the horrible thing he's done. But at this point I'd rather a mental asylum or death by firing squad. It's pretty clear he would have killed the woman if she hadn't escaped
Why not the best of both worlds? Castrate him and then put him in solitary confinement for life. He lost the right to control his hormones [I]and[/I] to interact with other human beings.
[QUOTE=Rufia;44135945]You're making the assumption that the man is genuinely sorry. Just because he got caught doesn't mean he's suddenly turned all remorseful.
Not saying we should execute people or shit like that, but the whole "think about what you've done" mentality is inherently flawed.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, I end up thinking what would have happened if this woman hadn't escaped and this man was allowed to continue with her; and possibly many more? We're fucking lucky we caught him before he did much worse, I think. He shouldn't have any chance of getting out of prison unless this man changes a complete 180 degrees.
[QUOTE=Feuver;44135554]-Choices-[/QUOTE]
Lock them up and use them for Medical testing. A bit far out there, but in all honestly, what the guy has done is simply inexcusable. At that point and to that degree, I believe he's beyond saving, and as such, shouldn't be given a second chance.
[B]UPDATE ON THE CASE[/B]
No castration; he was sentenced to 2 life sentences. He's never leaving prison.
[quote]A man who abducted, then raped and tortured a woman in Daytona Beach at his home for 17 hours was sentenced Tuesday to two life terms in prison.
A prosecution request to have Elmer Keith Bowman, 47, chemically castrated was denied because Bowman will never get out of prison, said Klare Ly, a spokeswoman for the State Attorney's Office that handles Volusia and Putnam county cases.[/quote]
updating OP
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;44135452]Yeah, because that doesn't lower the justice system to the level of the perpetrator.
Jesus fucking Christ, it's like you people don't have any idea why we have a system of courts and justice rather than just '"HE A HURRTIC! BURN'EM!".[/QUOTE]
If that weren't the most common perception of justice, we'd have moved past it by now.
[QUOTE=Noss;44127615]this man should never be released in to the public[/QUOTE]
Then why not kill him? Seriously if he is never going to be seen in public again why do we keep him alive in prison? It isn't a worthy life and he is only depleting resources.
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