• What the fuck of the week: Sex-torturer faces chemical castration for abducting, raping woman
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[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;44141458]chemical castration is not what you think it is, they don't remove anything. It makes me feel sick it's so fucked up[/QUOTE] Thankfully the man will just be in prison for 200 years
I'm gonna remind people that there are people out there who've been cleared by psychologists who have gotten out of jail... and went right ahead and started murdering again. There's a point where "second chances" are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed. This man has crossed that point. You don't give people like him another chance and wait for them to waste it. You just don't give them another chance, period.
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[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;44145299]exactly, multiple life sentences with no parole. No need to murder[/QUOTE] I'm not gonna argue about the death penalty, but it seemed like people were suggesting he should get a chance at rehabilitation (which implies releasing him later). I'm saying that you can't trust a criminal psychologist 100%. Psychology is a finicky and relatively young science. It's produced quite a few cases of what I mentioned before.
[QUOTE=The golden;44139845]I'd like to request that you read the OP again and read in-detail what this man did to that woman and then ask yourself again if he can be rehabilitated.[/QUOTE] I don't know if he can, because I'm [I]not a professional psychologist. [/I]Neither are you. Sorry for wanting someone to be given the benefit of the doubt when it's their life/metal wellbeing at stake.
People shouldn't be forced to undergo medical procedures without their consent, I don't care what it is. If this is something he wants to help control his urges or whatever, fine, but I don't see any way to justify forcing it on someone who is likely to spend the rest of their life in prison anyway.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44145814]I don't know if he can, because I'm [I]not a professional psychologist. [/I]Neither are you. Sorry for wanting someone to be given the benefit of the doubt when it's their life/metal wellbeing at stake.[/QUOTE] You don't need to be a professional psychologist to do some maths and realise he'll be dead when he comes out of prison.
[QUOTE=Flapadar;44146444]You don't need to be a professional psychologist to do some maths and realise he'll be dead when he comes out of prison.[/QUOTE] You do need to be a psychologist to know whether or not he can be rehabilitated. Will he be dead when he gets out? Yes, because he'll be there for 200 some years. Should he be, given that rehabilitation [I]could [/I]make him a decent member of society? I don't know.
"Chemical castration" ie emotional revenge mistaken for justice instead of actual lawful justice.
[QUOTE=GreenDolphin;44147719]"Chemical castration" ie emotional revenge mistaken for justice instead of actual lawful justice.[/QUOTE] All it is, is giving someone tablets that essentially lowers your drive/libido. Not exactly violent nor revenge.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;44147733]All it is, is giving someone tablets that essentially lowers your drive/libido. Not exactly violent nor revenge.[/QUOTE] Nonconsensual hormone treatment isn't humane.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44147811]Nonconsensual hormone treatment isn't humane.[/QUOTE] Neither is non consensual torture and rape. What's your point?
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;44147862]Neither is non consensual torture and rape. What's your point?[/QUOTE] That two wrongs don't make a right? This is really basic Aesop shit, man.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44147916]That two wrongs don't make a right? This is really basic Aesop shit, man.[/QUOTE] The gentleman in question is not fit nor stable mentally. And as such, is entirely prone to redoing what he has done. Even in prison. Its better than straight up cutting his dick off. Besides, after not being on them for awhile I'm pretty sure your libido returns as it was give or take. Either way. I know for a fact I wouldn't take the risk. Consensual or not to being Castrated. I think it's certainly a wise choice. Even if they decided against it in the end anyway.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;44147950]The gentleman in question is not fit nor stable mentally. And as such, is entirely prone to redoing what he has done. Even in prison. Its better than straight up cutting his dick off. Besides, after not being on them for awhile I'm pretty sure your libido returns as it was give or take. Either way. I know for a fact I wouldn't take the risk. Consensual or not to being Castrated. I think it's certainly a wise choice. Even if they decided against it in the end anyway.[/QUOTE] There are ways of dealing with his urges that don't necessitate hormone treatment. If he can't be helped such that he doesn't have those urges, then sectioning is a thing.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44147975]There are ways of dealing with his urges that don't necessitate hormone treatment. If he can't be helped such that he doesn't have those urges, then sectioning is a thing.[/QUOTE] opinion on Solitary confinement? I'm sure the other inmates will have fun with him in prison; once they know what he has done.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44147975]There are ways of dealing with his urges that don't necessitate hormone treatment. If he can't be helped such that he doesn't have those urges, then sectioning is a thing.[/QUOTE] Personally. I cannot stand rapists and Paedophiles. They make my blood boil in pure and utter hate and disgust so maybe that influences my outlook on it. But I vote that he should be left in general populace and castrated. I wish he would get much worse, but sadly, that just won't happen.
The hooker was quoted as saying " I'll describe my experience in a poem, When I was a young chap, I sat in the old mans lap, He raped me so hard I prolapsed."
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;44148005]opinion on Solitary confinement? I'm sure the other inmates will have fun with him in prison; once they know what he has done.[/QUOTE] I find it intriguing that other prisoners draw a line, like murder's will themselves inflict torment upon a rapist or Paedophile simply because they are disgusted with what they did.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;44148018]Personally. I cannot stand rapists and Paedophiles. They make my blood boil in pure and utter hate and disgust so maybe that influences my outlook on it. But I vote that he should be left in general populace and castrated. I wish he would get much worse, but sadly, that just won't happen.[/QUOTE] I'm just happy the woman can take solace in the fact that he won't ever see the public world again as long as she's alive
[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;44141458]chemical castration is not what you think it is, they don't remove anything.[/QUOTE] Read my post again, I wrote it's the closest they can get to removing anything.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;44148018]Personally. I cannot stand rapists and Paedophiles. They make my blood boil in pure and utter hate and disgust so maybe that influences my outlook on it. But I vote that he should be left in general populace and castrated. I wish he would get much worse, but sadly, that just won't happen.[/QUOTE] At first I thought you meant for him to be released and I was about to have a word with you, but then I re-read. Personally, I don't see how castration would fix anything beyond lowering his sex drive and humiliating him, but people like this don't really seem to care about either of those things. In all likelihood, if he were ever released, he would just do it again. Doesn't need a dick to hurt someone. But I guess unless he's immortal, that doesn't matter. Him being put away for two life sentences is a good thing. I won't get into the whole death sentence debate though. Not sure where I stand on that yet.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;44148022]I find it intriguing that other prisoners draw a line, like murder's will themselves inflict torment upon a rapist or Paedophile simply because they are disgusted with what they did.[/QUOTE] Completely agreed; with the power structures in prisons you'd think other prisoners wouldn't give a shit. But holy christ they can torment people in prison for what they've done, worst thing is even people who associate with someone in prison who is deemed 'disgusting' will also be targeted. It appears Rapes/Horrible crimes involving woman/pedos ticks off other inmates the most [editline]6th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Pascall;44148051]At first I thought you meant for him to be released and I was about to have a word with you, but then I re-read. Personally, I don't see how castration would fix anything beyond lowering his sex drive and humiliating him, but people like this don't really seem to care about either of those things. In all likelihood, if he were ever released, he would just do it again. Doesn't need a dick to hurt someone. But I guess unless he's immortal, that doesn't matter. Him being put away for two life sentences is a good thing. I won't get into the whole death sentence debate though. Not sure where I stand on that yet.[/QUOTE] He'll get what he deserves in prison; most likely. Wonder if he'll be separated from other prisoners, though. Is there any form of death sentence you approve of?
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;44127846]At the most it can increase body fat, bone density, and gynecomastia, serious risks are rare, so he gets fat and bitch tits, serves him right.[/QUOTE] Sounds pretty fair, he'd have to get fucked his entire time through prison :v:
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;44148053] He'll get what he deserves in prison; most likely. Wonder if he'll be separated from other prisoners, though. Is there any form of death sentence you approve of?[/QUOTE] I doubt he'd be separated from the rest of them, unless the others prove to be a danger to him. They don't usually remove someone until a problem is presented. As far as the death sentence goes.. It's a really heavy "it depends" for me. The pros don't outweigh the cons and vice versa. So I'm kinda stuck in limbo on it. Might take a specific circumstance to tip me one way or the other but so far I'm still in the middle.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;44148018]Personally. I cannot stand rapists and Paedophiles. They make my blood boil in pure and utter hate and disgust so maybe that influences my outlook on it. But I vote that he should be left in general populace and castrated. I wish he would get much worse, but sadly, that just won't happen.[/QUOTE] Do you think I like rapists and paedophiles? I just try to avoid jumping to emotional conclusions when they're not due. Condemning someone on reflex doesn't help anyone. It's important to recognise that there's a human cost on both sides of the crime; that justice is exorable from revenge. [QUOTE=Kite_shugo;44148005]opinion on Solitary confinement? I'm sure the other inmates will have fun with him in prison; once they know what he has done.[/QUOTE] Solitary confinement is a tough nugget to crack. It's a really, really bad thing to do to someone, but in some cases, I can see it being necessary. I think every other option should be exhausted before considering Solitary, and then great pains taken to make Solitary as humane as it can be.
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;44148028]I'm just happy the woman can take solace in the fact that he won't ever see the public world again as long as she's alive[/QUOTE] I guess it does provide some sort of solace, but considering the nature of what he has done to her. Its going to stick with her for the rest of her life. And I guess nothing will ever change that. [QUOTE=Pascall;44148051]At first I thought you meant for him to be released and I was about to have a word with you, but then I re-read. Personally, I don't see how castration would fix anything beyond lowering his sex drive and humiliating him, but people like this don't really seem to care about either of those things. In all likelihood, if he were ever released, he would just do it again. Doesn't need a dick to hurt someone. But I guess unless he's immortal, that doesn't matter. Him being put away for two life sentences is a good thing. I won't get into the whole death sentence debate though. Not sure where I stand on that yet.[/QUOTE] God know. I hope he never sees the outside world, and even so. Not that he is serving two life sentences. It makes me a bit happier. Even if I personally, believe his punishment could have been worse. But maybe the other prisoners will make his life hell. Who knows. [QUOTE=Kite_shugo;44148053]Completely agreed; with the power structures in prisons you'd think other prisoners wouldn't give a shit. But holy christ they can torment people in prison for what they've done, worst thing is even people who associate with someone in prison who is deemed 'disgusting' will also be targeted. It appears Rapes/Horrible crimes involving woman/pedos ticks off other inmates the most[/QUOTE] Even being prisoners themselves, it goes to show how bad beyond words rape and Paedophilia is in this world, when even people whom themselves had done bad or horrible things, draw the line and make it very clear that it is very very wrong. In a way it makes me smile knowing that when he goes to serve his sentences. His life will be made a living hell because of what he's done. [editline]6th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44148122]Do you think I like rapists and paedophiles? I just try to avoid jumping to emotional conclusions when they're not due. Condemning someone on reflex doesn't help anyone. It's important to recognise that there's a human cost on both sides of the crime; that justice is exorable from revenge.[/QUOTE] Honestly, given what he did. I wouldn't give that person the time of day. I think that when a person does something that...vicious and disgusting, they forfeit their rights. Why should a man with no regards to other peoples rights, be allowed to exercise his own.
[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;44148146] Honestly, given what he did. I wouldn't give that person the time of day. I think that when a person does something that...vicious and disgusting, they forfeit their rights. Why should a man with no regards to other peoples rights, be allowed to exercise his own.[/QUOTE] Human rights are (re: should be) inalienable. Regardless of someone's opinions of them, you don't get to take them. You don't get a free pass to steal from a thief, or to rape a rapist, why should you have a free pass to murder a murderer or to torture a torturer? If the state kills a murderer, they're no better than the murderer. It [I]could[/I] be argued that the state is better because they're doing it in the name of justice, rather than for satisfaction; but what if the murderer thought they were exacting justice? Why is one person killing for their idea of justice better than another doing the same? Because one is objectively correct? There's no such thing as objective morality.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44148653]Human rights are (re: should be) inalienable. Regardless of someone's opinions of them, you don't get to take them. You don't get a free pass to steal from a thief, or to rape a rapist, why should you have a free pass to murder a murderer or to torture a torturer? If the state kills a murderer, they're no better than the murderer. It [I]could[/I] be argued that the state is better because they're doing it in the name of justice, rather than for satisfaction; but what if the murderer thought they were exacting justice? Why is one person killing for their idea of justice better than another doing the same? Because one is objectively correct? There's no such thing as objective morality.[/QUOTE] As I said. Personally I think rather than kill them, they should be used for Medical science. IE Yet Untested Medicines and drugs etc. BUT again. That is MY view point. I just can't stand people like the guy that spawned this entire conversation. I don't see why they should do what they do, then proceed to live, be fed, watered, cleaned, heated and such at the cost of people who do no wrong.
"used industrial strength C-clamps to inflict a pain she says she never felt before." What the flying fuck is wrong with this guy.
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