[QUOTE=Splendor;35598615]Then I'd like to show you something.
[img]http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3187/screenshot58nk1.png[/img]
[img]http://i38.tinypic.com/el8px1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i38.tinypic.com/286pno.jpg[/img]
Which are just some of the many examples of horrible writing in Fallout 3. Does that look like good writing to you?[/QUOTE]
So you point out 2 areas where the writing is bad and you say the entire game suddenly has bad writing? I'm not saying FO3 has godly writing, but it's pretty good and it holds up nicely 90% of the time.
They already said they have plans for Rage and Skyrim this month and thats it. I bet thats Rage.
In my experience, someone claiming that their opinion is objective fact is either extremely arrogant or extremely ignorant, or in your case a mixture of the two apparently.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;35598856]and? while these are certainly convincing opinions they aren't facts. you know what facts are right?
there's literally no facts in this post it's just your opinion lol
what defines "best" speech options? who defined them? why?[/QUOTE]
Come on, are you really falling back on this trite post-modernist bullshit? "Like, dude, define definition, nothing even matters bro". The best speech options are the ones that are unlocked by a high Speech skill and allow you to access parts of the game you would otherwise not have been able to.
[QUOTE=Dirf;35598886]So you point out 2 areas where the writing is bad and you say the entire game suddenly has bad writing? I'm not saying FO3 has godly writing, but it's pretty good and it holds up nicely 90% of the time.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5Y0BMVLfg[/media]
I could spend more time dredging up examples of substandard writing if you'd like.
[QUOTE=CatFodder;35598897]In my experience, someone claiming that their opinion is objective fact is either extremely arrogant or extremely ignorant, or in your case a mixture of the two apparently.[/QUOTE]
In my experience, sophists are intellectual cowards and about one and a half step away from nihilism.
[QUOTE=Splendor;35598904]Come on, are you really falling back on this trite post-modernist bullshit? "Like, dude, define definition, nothing even matters bro". The best speech options are the ones that are unlocked by a high Speech skill and allow you to access parts of the game you would otherwise not have been able to.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5Y0BMVLfg[/media]
I could spend more time dredging up examples of substandard writing if you'd like.[/QUOTE]
Fallout 3 is NOT meant to be realistic or super serious at all
tbh I thought Fo3 was decently written
New Vegas was one of the best written games I've seen in a long time
and they're both fucking addicting
and if Bethesda doesn't announce Fallout 4
I will be so depressed
[QUOTE=Splendor;35598904]
I could spend more time dredging up examples of substandard writing if you'd like.[/QUOTE]
Dude, he's supposed to be a priest corrupted by radiation, who worships a fucking nuclear warhead.
You think his lines should make sense?
[QUOTE=Splendor;35598904]Come on, are you really falling back on this trite post-modernist bullshit? "Like, dude, define definition, nothing even matters bro". The best speech options are the ones that are unlocked by a high Speech skill and allow you to access parts of the game you would otherwise not have been able to.[/QUOTE]
hahaha
post modernist bullshit what are you talking about
do you know what "facts" are i mean seriously this is grade school stuff, next time don't say "my opinions are FACT" when you clearly don't actually know what a fact is. i'm surprised you know how to use a computer at this point i mean wow
[QUOTE=CatFodder;35598897]In my experience, someone claiming that their opinion is objective fact is either extremely arrogant or extremely ignorant, or in your case a mixture of the two apparently.[/QUOTE]
Unless you're Rusty, he's always right.
I honestly had a good time with fallout 3. I didn't notice any of these [i]glaring faults[/i] in it. You could make any game look bad if you nitpicked at it enough. In my opinion it was a good game. Trying to change someone's opinion is dumb.
[QUOTE=Splendor;35598904]Come on, are you really falling back on this trite post-modernist bullshit? "Like, dude, define definition, nothing even matters bro". The best speech options are the ones that are unlocked by a high Speech skill and allow you to access parts of the game you would otherwise not have been able to.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5Y0BMVLfg[/media]
I could spend more time dredging up examples of substandard writing if you'd like.[/QUOTE]
That is probably the best written character in the whole game, because all he does is spew bullshit he pulls out of his ass, like any good preacher.
Seriously, this has gotten my hopes up for Fallout 4 so much.
I really really really hope it is Fallout 4.
If it is, I will be very happy.
If its a Skyrim DLC, I will be somewhat happy.
If its something else it better be damn good.
[QUOTE=Splendor;35598904]
I could spend more time dredging up examples of substandard writing if you'd like.[/QUOTE]
And however many you found they would still only be bad in your opinion, which has nothing to do with fact.
whether it's skyrim or fo4 related I'm happy, if it's rage I will personally fly a plane into bethesda's marketing department
[QUOTE=Kopimi;35598938]hahaha
post modernist bullshit what are you talking about
do you know what "facts" are i mean seriously this is grade school stuff, next time don't say "my opinions are FACT" when you clearly don't actually know what a fact is. i'm surprised you know how to use a computer at this point i mean wow[/QUOTE]
Brilliant. You've already conceded earlier that the writing is shit, and now your argument is about me stating my opinions as fact. I'm surprised you don't know what postmodernism (no, I'm not being pretentious, it's the dominant "philosophy" of our time read a fucking book) is, I mean seriously, this is high school stuff.
And just for good measure: [img]http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9634/screenshot306md6.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Splendor;35599063]Brilliant. You've already conceded earlier that the writing is shit, and now your argument is about me stating my opinions as fact. I'm surprised you don't know what post modernism (no, I'm not being pretentious, it's the dominant "philosophy" of our time read a fucking book) is, I mean seriously, this is high school stuff.
And just for good measure: [img]http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9634/screenshot306md6.png[/img][/QUOTE]
uhh no i know what post modernism is i was telling you that you're stupid because you're backing away from your little "my opinions are fact" approach now that you see THEY AREN'T FACT
i see nothing wrong in that picture what is wrong with it?
[editline]16th April 2012[/editline]
why are you so upset and rude lmao
[QUOTE=Splendor;35599063]Brilliant. You've already conceded earlier that the writing is shit, and now your argument is about me stating my opinions as fact. I'm surprised you don't know what post modernism (no, I'm not being pretentious, it's the dominant "philosophy" of our time read a fucking book) is, I mean seriously, this is high school stuff.
And just for good measure: [img]http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9634/screenshot306md6.png[/img][/QUOTE]
it's not meant to be long either, it's meant to be simple
and if you don't have the % speech level needed it always comes up dumb because you'd sound dumb in reality trying to say it without that level of speech
[QUOTE=Splendor;35599063]Brilliant. You've already conceded earlier that the writing is shit, and now your argument is about me stating my opinions as fact. I'm surprised you don't know what postmodernism (no, I'm not being pretentious, it's the dominant "philosophy" of our time read a fucking book) is, I mean seriously, this is high school stuff.
[/QUOTE]
Says the guy who doesn't know what a fact is.
Its most likely another game or DLC(Skyrim). But if it is Fallout 4, then that would be awesome.
I feel you bastards have gotten me so riled up that if it`s anything BUT Fallout 4 I`ll probably explode in depression
[QUOTE=Kopimi;35599076]i see nothing wrong in that picture what is wrong with it?[/QUOTE]
You don't see anything wrong with it or any of the previous examples because you have shitty literary taste. You're base, vulgar, willing to resort to sophistry and you got the attention span of a fucking hamster, which is why you ask me why I'm being rude in the same breath as you type away "I'm surprised you know how to use a computer".
[QUOTE=CatFodder;35599090]Says the guy who doesn't know what a fact is.[/QUOTE]
I know what a fact is, and I was using a rhetorical device to bait you into actually providing an argument about how the writing of Fallout 3 is good, ofcourse I did not anticipate you'd go junior high debate team and pull out the old critical theory.
[QUOTE=Splendor;35599154]You don't see anything wrong with it or any of the previous examples because you have shitty literary taste. You're base, vulgar, willing to resort to sophistry and you got the attention span of a fucking hamster, which is why you ask me why I'm being rude in the same breath as you type away "I'm surprised you know how to use a computer".[/QUOTE]
could you just explain why you think the writing is bad instead of giving me this long winded baby's-first-argument bullshit
what makes this bad:
[img]http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9634/screenshot306md6.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Splendor;35599063]Brilliant. You've already conceded earlier that the writing is shit, and now your argument is about me stating my opinions as fact. I'm surprised you don't know what postmodernism (no, I'm not being pretentious, it's the dominant "philosophy" of our time read a fucking book) is, I mean seriously, this is high school stuff.
And just for good measure: [img]http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9634/screenshot306md6.png[/img][/QUOTE]
I'm just going to say you have no idea what post modernism is as a philospophy or as an art.
I'm also just going to say, you think you're objectively right. That's so funny it literally hurt my side making me laugh. God damn it's funny when someone thinks they have no flaw of perception...
[editline]16th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Splendor;35599154]You don't see anything wrong with it or any of the previous examples because you have shitty literary taste. You're base, vulgar, willing to resort to sophistry and you got the attention span of a fucking hamster, which is why you ask me why I'm being rude in the same breath as you type away "I'm surprised you know how to use a computer".
I know what a fact is, and I was using a rhetorical device to bait you into actually providing an argument about how the writing of Fallout 3 is good, ofcourse I did not anticipate you'd go junior high debate team and pull out the old critical theory.[/QUOTE]
You're funny
Possibly late
[quote= Pete Hines Twitter]@GameStopCentral you know, we do make other games besides Skyrim. :)[/quote]
Though maybe he's just fucking with people
I came here hoping for something Doom 4 related. Fallout 4 would be cool, too, and Skyrim stuff is also somewhat cool, I guess.
[QUOTE=minicunga;35599008][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20941701/aaadad443.png[/img]
???[/QUOTE]
Could also simply be light on the left side of his collar(could be any collared article of clothing) and the other side is just further away and in the shadows..
What i'm saying is just because it's slightly yellow does not mean it's a gold trimmed collar.
But in the end we could all be wrong, just wait and stop trying to be right :v:
[QUOTE=Splendor;35599154]
I know what a fact is, and I was using a rhetorical device to bait you into actually providing an argument about how the writing of Fallout 3 is good, ofcourse I did not anticipate you'd go junior high debate team and pull out the old critical theory.[/QUOTE]
So, you planned to lure us into arguing about the writing by saying something completely idiotic that was bound to derail the thread? Yeah, sounds like you were trying to do the opposite to me.
And by the way, I don't actually like the writing in Fallout 3, but I have the capacity to understand that not everyone shares my opinion.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;35599183]could you just explain why you think the writing is bad instead of giving me this long winded baby's-first-argument bullshit
what makes this bad:
[img]http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9634/screenshot306md6.png[/img][/QUOTE]
It's a speech option that is supposed to highlight the characters charisma and ability to persuade. It looks like something a Hollywood movie sidekick would say, only to be immediately shot down by the more morally sound protagonist.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;35599184]I'm just going to say you have no idea what post modernism is as a philospophy or as an art.[/quote]
You know what is even more funny? When people refer to postmodernism as a philosophy or an art, when it is neither. Postmodernism is a set of beliefs defined by their opposition to modernism. Which really calls into question your own supposed knowledge.
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