• Burglar Jailed For 'Evil' Murder Of Baby In Cot
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[QUOTE=Strikelol;45094301]Are you seriously going to say he was "framed"? Like seriously just say you think he was framed. Please so i know you're really that dumb[/QUOTE] He's just raising the point that all people convicted aren't guilty.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;45094471]Using the word 'high' doesn't really tell the story. You can smoke some pot and get high. You could also do meth for two days straight and be high. One is not like the other. Anyone who has done speed can tell you that psychosis is not far off when you do that drug for a day or so. It's entirely believable, to me, that this guy might have been so far into his 'high' that he had no idea what was going on. If that's the case then he's not evil, imo, to be EVIL you must be able to choose to do evil.[/QUOTE] He has no remorse, there's obviously more to it than the drugs
[QUOTE=cis.joshb;45094592]He has no remorse, there's obviously more to it than the drugs[/QUOTE] Assuming he was so wasted he had no idea what he was doing, why would he feel remorse? He'd feel disconnected, like it was another person who did the crime.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;45094694]Assuming he was so wasted he had no idea what he was doing, why would he feel remorse? He'd feel disconnected, like it was another person who did the crime.[/QUOTE] His decision to get high caused him to bash a baby's brains in with a club, only to cover the infant up so his mother can discover the remains later?
Shit this happened relatively close to where I live. Good thing the monster is in prison for life now
[quote]Zayden's mother found her severely beaten son as she went into his room to wake him and pulled back a blanket covering his face.[/quote] ):
[QUOTE=supersnail11;45094585]He's just raising the point that all people convicted aren't guilty.[/QUOTE] All I stated is that people get convicted of crimes they didn't commit all the time. Doesnt mean he was framed. If he is found guilty I think beating an innocent baby 30+ times deserves the death penalty
[QUOTE=Strikelol;45096024]All I stated is that people get [B]convicted of crimes they didn't commit all the time[/B]. Doesnt mean he was framed. If he is [B]found guilty[/B] I think beating an innocent baby 30+ times deserves the death penalty[/QUOTE] So you're saying that even if he's innocent, it doesn't matter and he should be put to death because he was convicted?
[QUOTE=Lalelalala;45096871]So you're saying that even if he's innocent, it doesn't matter and he should be put to death because he was convicted?[/QUOTE] he said if he is proven to be guilty then he should have the death penalty.
That's awful. I can't imagine the feeling of finding your baby dead in its crib :(
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;45094694]Assuming he was so wasted he had no idea what he was doing, why would he feel remorse? He'd feel disconnected, like it was another person who did the crime.[/QUOTE]I'm fairly certain that, even if you did not remember the experience firsthand, discovering that you beat an infant to death in it's crib would be quite traumatizing. Hell, maybe even moreso than usual. There are many popular horror tales, legends, and monsters completely built around the concept of "I've done unforgivable things and wasn't even aware of it".
It would be upsetting, no doubt about that. You'd know, in a logical way, that you did something horrible. You'd feel terrible that it happened. But you wouldn't feel personally responsible, in a way that allows real remorse, if you have no memory of actually doing it. There are many people who don't feel remorse about things they chose to do and knew were wrong when they did it, do you think there are a lot of people in a hurry to feel bad about things they don't even remember?
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;45099397]It would be upsetting, no doubt about that. You'd know, in a logical way, that you did something horrible. You'd feel terrible that it happened. But you wouldn't feel personally responsible, in a way that allows real remorse, if you have no memory of actually doing it. There are many people who don't feel remorse about things they chose to do and knew were wrong when they did it, do you think there are a lot of people in a hurry to feel bad about things they don't even remember?[/QUOTE] I don't know about you, but if I accidentally fuck up or do something that emotionally hurts someone that I didn't know would hurt them at the time I feel pretty bad about it. This guy is mentally fucked up.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;45099397]It would be upsetting, no doubt about that. You'd know, in a logical way, that you did something horrible. You'd feel terrible that it happened. But you wouldn't feel personally responsible, in a way that allows real remorse, if you have no memory of actually doing it. There are many people who don't feel remorse about things they chose to do and knew were wrong when they did it, do you think there are a lot of people in a hurry to feel bad about things they don't even remember?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure, if any sane person found out they done such a thing they would feel unimaginable guilt, regardless if they remembered it or not.
[QUOTE=Strikelol;45096024]All I stated is that people get convicted of crimes they didn't commit all the time. Doesnt mean he was framed. If he is found guilty I think beating an innocent baby 30+ times deserves the death penalty[/QUOTE] Innocent people have been found guilty and executed before. I'm not saying that's happening here, but it's idiotic to forget that.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45104845]Innocent people have been found guilty and executed before. I'm not saying that's happening here, but it's idiotic to forget that.[/QUOTE] Assuming he was caught through DNA testing and surveillance under good reason he'd have to pull some voodoo magic to be innocent I assume if the story is credible that he was high and aggressive during the robbery there were plenty of clues coated in big red flags with his name written on it
I feel like life imprisonment is a worse punishment than the death penalty. I mean, death is simply the erasing of a consciousness - to all intents and purposes, the individual ceases to exist, and as far as they're concerned they never DID exist. Whereas keeping someone alive in a prison cell ensures they feel trapped for as long as they live. Sure, the execution of someone may make the family of the victim feel better, but since the person who committed the crime no longer exists, surely it benefits them as well? That as far as they're concerned no punishment is inflicted whatsoever, save for the psychological trauma of being told you're going to die in the individuals past, which is negated as soon as they're killed? Surely the knowledge that the rest of your life is forfeit, that you will only ever see the same horrible people for the rest of your life, that you will forever see the same walls and floors and ceilings and cells of the building you're locked inside, is far worse than being freed from any guilt, anguish, or hopelessness? idk lol
[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;45107474]I feel like life imprisonment is a worse punishment than the death penalty. I mean, death is simply the erasing of a consciousness - to all intents and purposes, the individual ceases to exist, and as far as they're concerned they never DID exist. Whereas keeping someone alive in a prison cell ensures they feel trapped for as long as they live. Sure, the execution of someone may make the family of the victim feel better, but since the person who committed the crime no longer exists, surely it benefits them as well? That as far as they're concerned no punishment is inflicted whatsoever, save for the psychological trauma of being told you're going to die in the individuals past, which is negated as soon as they're killed? Surely the knowledge that the rest of your life is forfeit, that you will only ever see the same horrible people for the rest of your life, that you will forever see the same walls and floors and ceilings and cells of the building you're locked inside, is far worse than being freed from any guilt, anguish, or hopelessness? idk lol[/QUOTE] when you talk like this you are just as bad as people who want revenge in the form of the death penalty. The point of prison is not to psychologically torture the inmates. If possible, they should be rehabilitated.
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