• Exercise-loving mother-of-three is branded a 'fat-shaming bully' by Fat Liberation movement
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5'11, 154lb. Do some of you guys have to stay in on a windy day? :v: [QUOTE=Riller;42545437]This post got you involved. Checkmate, mate.[/QUOTE] And you got involved too. Oh fuck
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;42545619]I wouldn't say that. Fat men will get judged just as fat women will; I haven't seen any real evidence that either gender is more 'acceptable' to be fat.[/QUOTE] I don't know about that. Look at the way people treated Carrie Fisher as opposed to Marlon Brando. It seems to me that for women, being at all overweight is seen as much worse than for men. I would say that it's changing for men, though- it used to be that being fat was a sign of affluence, and it's relatively recently that the standards for men are changing.
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;42545257][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40378683/Funny%20pics/fat%20shaming.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]I don't think it's safe for those poeple to be down there
[QUOTE=RichyZ;42545938]love fps hivemindy love for various communities and understanding of religions (for the most part) and lifestyles, except if they are muslims, fat, or bronies[/QUOTE] What, are you some kind of fat, muslim brony? (I kid, I kid. The hate seems to be directed randomly at times, I'll agree.)
as someone who is 5'11 an used to weigh 250 and now weighs 190 these people shouldn't be saying that being fat is okay. before i lost those 60 lbs my BP was 144/91 and i was risking the health of my heart. after losing 60lbs my BP is 108/63. people seriously should not be saying that being overweight is a good thing at all! seriously has anyone ever heard of atherosclerosis or diabetes mellitus? hell being overweight even increases you chances of many types of cancer. not only does being overweight endanger your health, its also putting a ridiculous amount of strain on our medicare/medicaid systems.
[QUOTE=Mikkelmann;42545772]Thisisthinprivilage is basically fat women writing about other people's sick burns she's been victim of. It's probably the most entertaining tumblr page, in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Also it's Poe's Law in action. Reddit and 4chan submit obviously fake stories there from time to time and they almost always get accepted
How dare these people tell unhealthy people that they're unhealthy and should be healthy [I]literally hitler[/I] I refuse to believe that every single one of these people has some kind of disorder that somehow inhibits weight loss.
[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;42544977]You're rather underweight yourself.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I know. :/ I eat a lot but none of it sticks. I'd really like to weight my height at some point. [editline]16th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Antlerp;42545139]shitson im 5'11 and im 150lb wats going on with you. I am imploring you to eat something man! the more I think of it I can just imagine you looking like a holocaust survivor or something[/QUOTE] It's funny because I'm Jewish.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;42544569]easy solution: stop being fat[/QUOTE] I'd love to not have a janky as fuck metabolism!
I am going to play devil's advocate here and say that, while the people in the OP are completely ridiculous, a lot of the people in this thread are equally so. I mean, treating fat like it is some kind of disease is obviously dumb; it is correctable and can be changed. But to say "stop being fat" or "just run a bit" is also stupid. Being obese to such a point is more than just pure laziness. For most people, being fat has more to do with their personality than it does any kind of physical issue. For most people, eating had become almost an addiction of sorts. Now, a lot of people are going to go frothing at the mouth because I used the "trigger word" of addiction, but believe me, I know there is a fine line between an actual, honest medical addiction to drugs or even alcohol, but that doesn't mean that eating is any less of an addiction, just a far less severe one that is easier -albeit not easy for all- to correct. We know food has a connection with emotions, and that eating food with high sugar or carbohydrate content [I]can[/I] actually make you feel better, and a lack of food makes you feel worse emotionally. Combine this fact with personality traits and to just "stop eating so much" and to "just run a bit" can be a pretty immense task for some. I am not saying these people are in any way right for their bitching, but at the same time you cannot go around stooping to their level, tossing around terms like "land whale" or "hambeast", funny as they may be. You also shouldn't go around acting like exercise and eating right is an easy task and that people just straight up choose to be fat. It is correctable, but for some it requires a shitload more effort than others. You need to be reasonable and patient. Even if it isn't really a disease or a disorder, it is hard for people to kick it. But of course I'm going to get flamed for this, because I actually happen to disagree with the popular opinion on this thread. But this is just my two cents. [editline]asscheeks[/editline] Admittedly, typing all this did make me get off my fat ass for once and get in a really good work out for the first time in about 5 months, so there is something too it.
Long shit incoming: I could see how people would be offended over being chastised for being truly fat, IF it didn't come with some nasty health issues. If all that being really fuckin' fat meant was having to buy bigger clothes and having a bit of annoyance in tight spaces, then yeah, people would probably have little to no problem with it beyond aesthetics. But considering just how badly being fat can fuck up your health and ability to do much physically, as well as the less-than-appealing visuals, most people rightfully find it to be nasty. And when I say fat, I mean FAT, as in "gotta watch my type-2 adult diabetes and/or use a fat-cart at WalMart", not mildly pudgy. Being a bit chubby is different. Having a slightly flabby stomach or whatever won't kill you any faster than any of the other stupid shit in your life. If anything, there should be a movement to promote the idea that being slightly pudgy is just as harmless as being slightly thin. It's when you go overboard with it (anorexia/obesity), just like a lot of shit, that things get harmful and gross. That seems to be the origin of the whole (seriously off) idea among fat girls that being so big you fuckin' wheeze is being a truly beautiful woman, when in reality something more along the lines of "normal with a little flab" is more accurate, in terms of both evolutionary development and common sexual preference. These sorts of people seem to think that because the stereotypical Hollywood/media idea of a gorgeous woman is a signpost with legs and tits, going to the exact opposite extreme of "Jabba, but with breasts" is a good idea. In reality it's just as bad, but in the other direction. Trying to fit either extreme is unhealthy for almost everyone and generally not appreciated by most people. Oh, and being made fun of for being fat is not even remotely goddamn close to being oppressed for natural birth-traits like gender, race and skin color. You can change it if you want to (barring any sort of uncontrollable genetic or environmental factors), and if you don't have the will or just like being big, there's always the classic tactic of not giving a shit what random people think. Also, fat people haven't ever been mass-murdered, enslaved, or had any other sort of horrific injustice cast upon them like many other groups have. Most they've ever gotten is called names and made the butt of a few jokes, not exactly a terrible oppression of their kind. I can see where these people promoting an end to "fat-shaming" come from, but they're fighting for the wrong cause and taking aim at the wrong people. They're essentially the same as a group of deathly-thin anorexics pointing at average joes and janes and calling them fat pigs, completely incorrect and acting like being seriously unhealthy is good. Just like any other group that tries to promote a cause via extremism (radical feminists/PETA/etc.), they're going way overboard and it's not helping the middle-ground folk who are actually reasonable. If they aimed for a more reasonable middle-ground, such as making it so that harmlessly-pudgy people aren't lumped in with the world-devouring whales and women don't have to be a size 0 to be loved in the media and/or considered sexy, they'd likely be more successful and their cause would be a good one. And before anyone asks, yeah I'm a chubby chaser, emphasis on [U]chubby.[/U] I personally draw the line of "how fat is too fat" for myself and others at how it effects your health. If it makes you ill and/or physically impedes you to any significant degree (getting stuck, needing a fat-cart, being out of breath too easily, etc.), you're too damn fat and you should slim down for your own sake. If all it does is force you to buy slightly bigger clothes than normal and jiggle a little, then there's no real issue and you're fine as long as you don't go overboard. Just like literally anything else you can do in life, going too far in either direction with weight is a really bad idea. Apologies for the length and any incoherencies, I'm mildly out of it today and I tend to ramble on about random shit in text.
I'm 5'9 and 250+. Lowest I've been was when I was running three miles a day and I was 190. And I don't give a fuuuuuuuck. Good on this woman. I'm not offended at all.
According to the examples of thin privilege given on that tumbler, I fit the bill pretty well. ...'cept I'm 5'11" and 210lb. I don't know guys, I'm starting to think thin privilege isn't actually a thing. v:v:v
is it really privilege if youre constantly fighting to maintain it :v: [QUOTE=Ericson666;42544523]I'm 6'6" and 130 pounds, does that mean I'm literally Hitler? [/QUOTE] fitler
Don't mean to bring my own personal interests into this, but in the same way some people enjoy being skinny rather than muscular, some people simply enjoy being overweight. Is it a 'desirable' or healthy lifestyle, objectively no. But I think as long as people don't take it overboard there's not really a problem.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;42545938]love fps hivemindy love for various communities and understanding of religions (for the most part) and lifestyles, except if they are muslims, fat, or bronies[/QUOTE] Since when does facepunch hate muslims? They're treated pretty well. And for many being fat is a choice, you can't really choose to hate my little pony, but you can choose how you display your like of it, and those who who flaunt their love of MLP get hated on. oh god, that tumblr deserves a bookmark. The writer of the tumblr seems to be quite a bit better than the people sending in stuff at least.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;42546539]Since when does facepunch hate muslims? They're treated pretty well. And for many being fat is a choice, you can't really choose to hate my little pony, but you can choose how you display your like of it, and those who who flaunt their love of MLP get hated on. oh god, that tumblr deserves a bookmark. The writer of the tumblr seems to be quite a bit better than the people sending in stuff at least.[/QUOTE] if you enjoy that blog, you should take a look at [url]http://spooky-snowflake-hall-of-doom.tumblr.com/[/url], where all the idiots of the world reside.
It seems weird to me the number of people in this thread who attribute being fat or overweight entirely to the lifestyles and choices of fat people. It's strange that FPers, as liberal as a lot of us are, seem to be throwing arguments out there that sound almost like "hurr durr bootstraps", telling people that they can fix their weight the same way that conservatives tell people they can fix their economic status. I'm not being an apologist for the obese or anything, and there's no doubt that lifestyle choices are a big part of it, but consider this tiny bit of useless anecdotal evidence: I'm a pretty big guy. Not hugely fat or anything, but definitely not skinny or medium. My friend (the one who introduced me to FP, 4chan, and the world of PC gaming and building) lives largely the same lifestyle as I- sedentary, lots of gaming, chair time, and we both take time to enjoy unhealthy diets. His weight? Absolutely the most rail-skinny dude I've ever seen, it's quite uncanny. The man is a featherweight, in spite of living my fat lifestyle. He calls himself the "skinny-fat guy" because he eats and lives like a fat man, but isn't fat. And of course, a lot of the male members of my family have a similar build to mine, in spite of different lifestyles and occupations. Is there something genetic to being overweight? Yes, based on my experience. Can you use a healthy lifestyle to fight it? Absolutely yes, and it can work, but it's pretty reasonable to think that family history can make weight loss difficult. I'm willing to bet that in the aforementioned friend's family, there are tons of really skinny people who look a bit like they tried the Auschwitz weight loss program.
Take it from a fat guy. I'm not on the side of any orginazation that has "Fat" and "Liberation" in the title. I think the picute is insperational no shaming, people are just too fuckin sensitive these days.
[QUOTE=daschnek;42546627]It seems weird to me the number of people in this thread who attribute being fat or overweight entirely to the lifestyles and choices of fat people. It's strange that FPers, as liberal as a lot of us are, seem to be throwing arguments out there that sound almost like "hurr durr bootstraps", telling people that they can fix their weight the same way that conservatives tell people they can fix their economic status. I'm not being an apologist for the obese or anything, and there's no doubt that lifestyle choices are a big part of it, but consider this tiny bit of useless anecdotal evidence: I'm a pretty big guy. Not hugely fat or anything, but definitely not skinny or medium. My friend (the one who introduced me to FP, 4chan, and the world of PC gaming and building) lives largely the same lifestyle as I- sedentary, lots of gaming, chair time, and we both take time to enjoy unhealthy diets. His weight? Absolutely the most rail-skinny dude I've ever seen, it's quite uncanny. The man is a featherweight, in spite of living my fat lifestyle. He calls himself the "skinny-fat guy" because he eats and lives like a fat man, but isn't fat. And of course, a lot of the male members of my family have a similar build to mine, in spite of different lifestyles and occupations. Is there something genetic to being overweight? Yes, based on my experience. Can you use a healthy lifestyle to fight it? Absolutely yes, and it can work, but it's pretty reasonable to think that family history can make weight loss difficult. I'm willing to bet that in the aforementioned friend's family, there are tons of really skinny people who look a bit like they tried the Auschwitz weight loss program.[/QUOTE] is it an excuse to not try at all? if you really care about your weight you would do everything you could to try cut it, regardless of whether it seemed effective or not.
[QUOTE=codenamecueball;42544561]i kinda get thin privilege, like, how if you're a thin person you aren't treated like shit because of your weight most of the time and it's easier to buy clothes and shit like that.[/QUOTE] Do you know how hard it is to shop for 28 x 32s?
[QUOTE=lintz;42546643]is it an excuse to not try at all? if you really care about your weight you would do everything you could to try cut it, regardless of whether it seemed effective or not.[/QUOTE] Of course it isn't. There's never an excuse not to try, but there's also no excuse for just sticking one big label on the overweight. If people don't even try with their weight, then by all means blame them all you like.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;42546323]I am going to play devil's advocate here and say that, while the people in the OP are completely ridiculous, a lot of the people in this thread are equally so. I mean, treating fat like it is some kind of disease is obviously dumb; it is correctable and can be changed. But to say "stop being fat" or "just run a bit" is also stupid. Being obese to such a point is more than just pure laziness. For most people, being fat has more to do with their personality than it does any kind of physical issue. For most people, eating had become almost an addiction of sorts. Now, a lot of people are going to go frothing at the mouth because I used the "trigger word" of addiction, but believe me, I know there is a fine line between an actual, honest medical addiction to drugs or even alcohol, but that doesn't mean that eating is any less of an addiction, just a far less severe one that is easier -albeit not easy for all- to correct. We know food has a connection with emotions, and that eating food with high sugar or carbohydrate content [I]can[/I] actually make you feel better, and a lack of food makes you feel worse emotionally. Combine this fact with personality traits and to just "stop eating so much" and to "just run a bit" can be a pretty immense task for some. I am not saying these people are in any way right for their bitching, but at the same time you cannot go around stooping to their level, tossing around terms like "land whale" or "hambeast", funny as they may be. You also shouldn't go around acting like exercise and eating right is an easy task and that people just straight up choose to be fat. It is correctable, but for some it requires a shitload more effort than others. You need to be reasonable and patient. Even if it isn't really a disease or a disorder, it is hard for people to kick it. But of course I'm going to get flamed for this, because I actually happen to disagree with the popular opinion on this thread. But this is just my two cents.[/QUOTE] Lazyness is a choice. And most people are fat because at one point they chose to be lazy (Enphasis on most and not all). When you say "it's not a choice because for it's hard" it becomes an excuse. If someones knows fully-well whats best for them but refuses to do so because "it's hard" I have to sympathy for them. As hard as it may be you can change your own personality. An example would be Phineas Gage a railroad worker who had a rod struck through his head that damaged his frontal lobe. He survived and recovered from the accident but after his personality was completely different, to the point where friend started calling him "no longer gage". He lost all his social skills, he was constantly acting inappropriate in public and getting angry and business partners. However he decided he didn't want to act that way and worked to change himself. That said they don't deserved to be directly insulted, which will usually just give them some form of social anxiety. Reading the jokes here it seems they are targeted specifically to the people on this tumblr who use the excuse "it's too hard!". And I do believe "just don't be fat" while rude, is a adequate response, overcoming obesity is something someone has to actively choose, and no one else can help you until you make that choice. TL;DR: Don't use "it's hard to change" as an excuse
[QUOTE=daschnek;42546684]Of course it isn't. There's never an excuse not to try, but there's also no excuse for just sticking one big label on the overweight. If people don't even try with their weight, then by all means blame them all you like.[/QUOTE] Exactly. I agree with you completely, but the point is that most of these "thin priveledlgelfege" people are fat people who won't even try, they'll blame their problems on everything except their own choices. Because they refuse to work to better themselves.
Oh god, the Fat Liberation Movement just makes me think of a bunch of fat guys in army fatigues in the jungle with AK-47's.
[quote]4. WE demand equal rights for fat people in all aspects of life, as promised in the Constitution of the United States. We demand equal access to goods and services in the public domain, and an end to discrimination against us in the areas of employment, education, public facilities and health services.[/quote] Is it wrong I thought of this south park episode? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ZZ1Rqp8S0[/media]
[QUOTE=The Worm;42546646]Do you know how hard it is to shop for 28 x 32s?[/QUOTE] You mean jeans with a 28" waist and 32" inseam? I wear 32/32 (or 34/32, some fit differently) and 28/32 was just as common. Now if you needed like 28/38 (super tall and skinny) I can imagine it being hard, but 28/32 is quite average for teenagers
I'm totally against a conventional view or standard measurement of beauty, but as someone who's butter and bread is going to be making people fit or fitter in a few years, there's no way some of these incredibly obese people can feel great when they're bodies are in such disrepair. There is, of course, a portion of people who are genuinely healthy with a walking bodyweight that leaves a lot of bodyfat, but I would say the vast majority of obese and morbidly obese people are just not living a healthy lifestyle. And that is something people should NOT be glorifying.
[QUOTE=Derubermensch;42547088]I'm totally against a conventional view or standard measurement of beauty, but as someone who's butter and bread is going to be making people fit or fitter in a few years, there's no way some of these incredibly obese people can feel great when they're bodies are in such disrepair.[/QUOTE] That's because they don't actually feel great, they're desperately looking for excuses and even justification for the terrible life choices they have made that have led them to obesity. Instead of wallowing in perpetual self-pity like most obese people, they chose to actually form some sort of pseudo-movement that aims to bring "justice" for the obese (even though what little fat-shaming exists in society is totally justified), so that it would serve as an emotional safety net meaning they no longer have to justify their awful condition and can just retort with stupid crap like "fat & proud" to further entrench themselves in the delusion that obesity is fine. Unless you have some sort of genetic illness, being fat in 2013 is just a sign of weakness and boils down to mere laziness. Being proud of being lazy is flat-out dumb. [img]http://i.imgur.com/gcgSO18.jpg[/img]
I'm also fucking sick of the word "privilege" being thrown around by people like this and radical feminists. It's not a "privilege" to be skinny. It's something caused by genetics and metabolism or something caused by people that fucking earned it. I also hate this "Fat Liberation Movement". The only thing you're being oppressed or put down by is your own weight. I hate how these hamplanets have the audacity to compare their "struggle" to people who have actually been enslaved, oppressed, people that have actually struggled with major issues. It's a disgrace, it's an affront to those people. The only struggle you have is moving.
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