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[QUOTE=JDK721;23918029]yeah because they couldn't possibly do both at the same time[/QUOTE]
They've never done their primary job in any sort of fashion, so I'm calling it a move.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23918216]You're a bigot.[/QUOTE]
hahaha
coming from the guy who supports racial profiling, DADT, keeping gay marriage illegal, etc.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23918216]Here you go then, read.
[url]http://www.philforhumanity.com/Why_the_United_Nations_is_a_Useless_Failure.html[/url][/QUOTE]
great, so instead of making any sort of argument you just link to me an opinion article
on top of that, it's from a website owned by "Phil B." who we have no clue who he is and what his credentials are, etc.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23918354]hahaha
coming from the guy who supports racial profiling, DADT, keeping gay marriage illegal, etc.[/QUOTE]
Your stupidity has just reached a new level.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23918354]great, so instead of making any sort of argument you just link to me an opinion article
on top of that, it's from a website owned by "Phil B." who we have no clue who he is and what his credentials are, etc.[/QUOTE]
You wanted a citation, I give you a citation, then you deny the citation. It's not an opinion either, he clearly states what the UN was made to do ([B]FACT[/B]), then explains how they failed to act on those ([B]FACT[/B]). You don't need citations for any of this. You're an idiot. I already have more evidence to back up what I'm saying than you do. Try to have a real argument.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23918474]Your stupidity has just reached a new level.[/QUOTE]
you're not in any position to call someone else stupid so I suggest you stop
[QUOTE=Ragy;23918474]You wanted a citation, I give you a citation, then you deny the citation.[/QUOTE]
yeah a CREDIBLE citation
not one written by "Phil B."
[QUOTE=Ragy;23918474]It's not an opinion either, he clearly states what the UN was made to do, then explains how they failed to act on those. You're an idiot. I already more evidence to back up what I'm saying than you do.[/QUOTE]
yep, it's an opinion with no credibility what so ever
it's some guy who we don't even know who the fuck he is saying how the UN has failed
he doesn't even provide any SOURCES
[QUOTE=JDK721;23918514]you're not in any position to call someone else stupid so I suggest you stop[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JDK721;23918514]yeah a CREDIBLE citation
not one written by "Phil B."[/QUOTE]
Stop calling for citations then trying to reject them for not credible. The UN has done [I]nothing[/I].
[QUOTE=JDK721;23918514]yep, it's an opinion with no credibility what so ever
it's some guy who we don't even know who the fuck he is saying how the UN has failed
he doesn't even provide any SOURCES[/QUOTE]
Hey, I can play this game too. Hurr [citation needed]
Lets start again shall we, except JDK style.
The UN has not achieved its goals throughout the years. Show me credible citations that prove my statement wrong.
Yeah, give your money to the rich people. As we all know, they are just eager to give you money and make your life better.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23917995]They never evolved, they failed horrifically. When something doesn't do what it was [I]created to do[/I], it's called a failure.[/QUOTE]
This right here called a baseless assertion. Look for a better source than one guy with a terrible web page.
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[QUOTE=Ridge;23917985]I don't know if I'd call changing from politics to welfare is a good move in the long run....[/QUOTE]
Feeding starving people is welfare?
[QUOTE=Ragy;23918719]Show me credible citations that prove my statement wrong.[/QUOTE]
that's not how it works
burden of proof is on you
[QUOTE=JDK721;23919473]that's not how it works
burden of proof is on you[/QUOTE]
So it's ok for you to ask for citations, but not ok for me? Haha this just gets greater and greater.
Since you can't prove my statement wrong, I guess I win.
You're trying to prove that the UN is a waste of space, correct?
[QUOTE=Ragy;23919610]So it's ok for you to ask for citations, but not ok for me? Haha this just gets greater and greater.
Since you can't prove my statement wrong, I guess I win.[/QUOTE]
It's the person making the claim's responsibility to provide evidence, you are making the claim, therefore you make the argument.
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeptical_inquiry[/URL]
And you do win, you've successfully trolled many.
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[QUOTE=Lambeth;23919682]You're trying to prove that the UN is a waste of space, correct?[/QUOTE]
No he's trying to make people rage, that's what trolls do :rolleye:
[QUOTE=Ragy;23919610]So it's ok for you to ask for citations, but not ok for me? Haha this just gets greater and greater.[/QUOTE]
Its how JDK works...
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23919682]You're trying to prove that the UN is a waste of space, correct?[/QUOTE]
Correct. The US pays the most into the UN, does the brunt of the work, and leases them very expensive land on Manhattan for very little if any rent.
[QUOTE=Ridge;23919909]Its how JDK works...[/QUOTE]
I know you're not a troll, and you should know better. :colbert:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeptical_inquiry[/url]
[QUOTE=Ridge;23919909]Correct. The US pays the most into the UN, does the brunt of the work, and leases them very expensive land on Manhattan for very little if any rent.[/QUOTE]
Thisispain proved you wrong pages ago then.
[QUOTE=Ridge;23919909]Its how JDK works...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Billiam;23919963]I know you're not a troll, and you should know better. :colbert:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeptical_inquiry[/url][/QUOTE]
Billiam just goes around calling everyone a troll who disagrees with him. No point in arguing with such a mindless person.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxRjhlx8DZs[/media]
[QUOTE=Ragy;23920023]Billiam just goes around calling everyone a troll who disagrees with him. No point in arguing with such a mindless person.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=To ridge]I know you're not a troll,[/QUOTE]
You silly troll you :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Ridge;23917702]The UN's original purpose was diplomatic conflict resolution, just like the League of Nations that preceeded it.[/QUOTE]
The UN's mission statement.
WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
* to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
* to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
* to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
* to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom
To expand on this, the UN charter says the SAME exact thing and is used as a guideline
tell me, Ragy/ridge, what is the purpose of the US government.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23917847]No it's not, nu uh, it's to feed people. /sarcasm[/QUOTE]
You both have ignored every scrap of evidence thrown at you, you two are trolling or just retarded.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23919980]Thisispain proved you wrong pages ago then.[/QUOTE]
How so? The US is, in fact, the number one financial contributer to the UN.
We are also the UN's go-to boys if they actually decide to send in a competent armed force to somewhere.
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[QUOTE=Warhol;23920149]The UN's mission statement.
WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
* to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
* to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
* to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
* to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom
To expand on this, the UN charter says the SAME exact thing and is used as a guideline
tell me, Ragy/ridge, what is the purpose of the US government.
You both have ignored every scrap of evidence thrown at you, you two are trolling or just retarded.[/QUOTE]
Nowhere in that mission statement do I see giving people food or shelter or a vote...
[QUOTE=Ragy;23918113]Citation needed? What? That's like asking for a citation that Obama is president.
Your arguments turn into a "citation needed" argument once you've been backed into a corner with no where to go.[/QUOTE]
So asking for a source on your claim that an orginisation that helps millions of needy people is a failure, is strange?
the only reason you call it a "useless failure" is because you read some obscure blog.
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[QUOTE=Ridge;23917985]I don't know if I'd call changing from politics to welfare is a good move in the long run....[/QUOTE]
So helping people is not good?
Why don't you social conservatives fucking come out of the neo-fascist closet already?
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[QUOTE=Ragy;23917995]They never evolved, they failed horrifically. When something doesn't do what it was [I]created to do[/I], it's called a failure.[/QUOTE]
look at me, im ragy, i igno- fuck it i can't even make fun of you, there's too much shit to cover that's fucking wrong with you
[QUOTE=Ridge;23920165]How so? The US is, in fact, the number one financial contributer to the UN.
We are also the UN's go-to boys if they actually decide to send in a competent armed force to somewhere.[/QUOTE]
and? What point are you trying to make? The UN owes the US in some way?
Someone just kill them? What little intelligent part they have is probably in a corner cowering and crying like a beaten child.
[QUOTE=Ridge;23920165]How so? The US is, in fact, the number one financial contributer to the UN.[/quote]
Funding works in GDP percentiles, the US has the highest GDP in the world. Japan is close in behind.
Japan gives 19% of funding and the US 25%
in terms of actual money in relevance to the two GDP's, that's probably about the same.
And a bunch of other countries contribute the same amount, so it equals to about half of the US
[quote]We are also the UN's go-to boys if they actually decide to send in a competent armed force to somewhere.[/quote]
source
[quote]Nowhere in that mission statement do I see giving people food or shelter or a vote...[/QUOTE]
I never said it was supposed to, however it p. much hints to it, if you read what i said, it was regarding the UN charter, which was the founding document of the UN and written in the same year it was established, and in it, food, shelter and voting is guaranteed.
[quote]Nowhere in that mission statement do I see giving people food or shelter or a vote... [/quote]
[QUOTE=Warhol;23920149]The UN's mission statement.
WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
* to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
* [b]to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights[/b], in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
* to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
* [b]to promote social progress and better standards of life[/b] in larger freedom
[/QUOTE]
The excessive use of the adjective 'fucking' doesn't really make your arguments sound better.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23920466]and? What point are you trying to make? The UN owes the US in some way?[/QUOTE]
I'm saying the US is dumping tons of money into a political organization that is filtered and and a bit of it is redirected and the rest of it goes to the same causes the US already sends funds directly to. It's duplicity, and duplicity that we can not physically afford...
[QUOTE=Ridge;23919909]Its how JDK works...
Correct. The US pays the most into the UN, does the brunt of the work, and leases them very expensive land on Manhattan for very little if any rent.[/QUOTE]
First, i already described why it seems like they give the most.
Second, not at all, they bail on UN peacekeeping missions a lot and have one of the least amount of soldiers in the UN peacekeepers
Third, so what?
How is this still going?
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;23920546]The excessive use of the adjective 'fucking' doesn't really make your arguments sound better.[/QUOTE]
Who are you talking to? I haven't seen an F-bomb at all on this page...
[QUOTE=Ridge;23920617]Who are you talking to? I haven't seen an [B]F-bomb at all on this page[/B]...[/QUOTE]
Key words :3:
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