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[QUOTE=Warhol;23910286]Actually you ARE a racist, although it really has little to do with Obama.[/quote] How am I a racist? Because I believe that people should follow the legal path to citizenship, like others have for centuries? [quote]And stop with that retarded "lol glorious leader" bullshit. you people act that way when Republicans are in power.[/quote] I've never said that. His voters have. [quote]The majority of the film is about his life before the presidency you haven't seen the film, have you?[/QUOTE] You are contradicting yourself now... [QUOTE]The movie was released during the [lame] duck period about him being a [lame] duck.[/QUOTE]
no film with favoring and visions of >political group A< released during the presidency of >political group B< can cause a riot or anything substantially worth noting. it's a fact. michael moore's multitude of anti-republican/conservatives didn't do shit during Bush's 8 years, and surely someone at least somewhat experienced with documentaries can make something more powerful (whether you care for them or not is 100% irrelevant) than someone with no experience. this film isn't going to do jack shit, just like Fahrenheit 9/11 didn't do jack shit.
[QUOTE=thisispain;23910353]nope the teaparty doesn't criticize anything that should be criticized in obama, it just says no to a whole bunch of things that don't exist and it's led by fox news anchors sure the left had the same shit as well but in retrospect anti-war protests seemed completely logical[/QUOTE] The Tea Party is not representative of all conservatives. They are simply the most vocal group.
[QUOTE=Ridge;23910307]Lame duck period is the time frame between the election and the inauguration.[/quote] That's not always the case [quote]Its not going to cause some revolution, [B]know[/B].[/quote] lol, and you were bitching at me over a slight mistake earlier? [quote]But it is giving the left the same treatment they gave Bush.[/quote] Bush was a war criminal, he deserved it. and the right wing have been making shitty documentaries since JFK. [quote]I look forward to see how it is received, and how many people are labeled as racists and birthers and whatnot by the media.[/QUOTE] it's not like it's not true.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23910326]That's all the left does, call people racists.[/QUOTE] i don't know who you mean by the left but are you actually dismissing all of the right's criticism? because that's just ridiculous in every way [editline]10:32PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;23910366]The Tea Party is not representative of all conservatives. They are simply the most vocal group.[/QUOTE] that's where you are wrong, the most vocal groups control organizations like the GOP, either forcing conservatives to adapt or join a third party without any power
[QUOTE=Ragy;23910326]That's all the left does, call people racists.[/QUOTE] that's all the right does, say they aren't really the whole republicans vs democrats game is ridiculous it's just a pissing contest grow up already
[QUOTE=M_B;23910388] really the whole republicans vs democrats game is ridiculous it's just a pissing contest grow up already[/QUOTE] sure it's ridiculous but it also influences the direction this country takes
[QUOTE=M_B;23910388]that's all the right does, say they aren't really the whole republicans vs democrats game is ridiculous it's just a pissing contest grow up already[/QUOTE] A contest which determines the future of a country. There will always be opposing sides, you can't get rid of that.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;23905757]At least Reagen cleaned up Carter's mess. And don't you dare say he didn't. Carter's stupidity caused the highest inflation of the last century, 10%+ unemployment, and the holding of many American hostages in Iran.[/QUOTE] He didn't. Um, the 1980's recession was caused by Paul Volcker raising interests rates in order to get rid of inflation, both Reagan and Carter supported the policy. [url]http://www.nytimes.com/1981/05/05/business/bank-lending-rate-set-at-record-14-by-federal-reserve.html[/url] Seriously, it isn't Carters's fault he was elected after two energy crises and the ensuing recession was a combination of both presidencies. Learn your economics. [QUOTE=Uberman77883;23905757]The day Reagen signed in as president was the day the hostages were released.[/QUOTE] You know who Reagan was? Reagan was the luckiest president, he wasn't great, he wasn't that good either. He was in the right place when the Soviet Union fell. He was in the right place during the curb of the recession. He was in the right place during the hostage situation. And he survived an assassination attempt.
Why all the hate? it's like the antithesis of Michal Moore films. Deal with it.
[QUOTE=Insulator;23910414]Why all the hate? it's like the antithesis of Michal Moore films. Deal with it.[/QUOTE] Except it's not funny.
Ignoring all the other stupid shit you had in your post, Warhol, I'm going to focus on this. [QUOTE=Warhol;23910367]Bush was a war criminal, he deserved it. and the right wing have been making shitty documentaries since JFK.[/QUOTE] How was he a war criminal? Last I checked, he didnt try to kill off a race of people he didn't like, nuke a city, or take POWs on death marches and starve them.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;23905757]At least Reagen cleaned up Carter's mess.[/quote] Carter didn't have a mess? [quote]And don't you dare say he didn't. Carter's stupidity caused the highest inflation of the last century, 10%+ unemployment[/quote] Both dropped during his presidency from the high levels caused by Ford and went up again. It was just as bad before and after Carter. [quote]and the holding of many American hostages in Iran.[/quote] Reagan's solution killed more people then the initial incident. [quote]The day Reagen signed in as president was the day the hostages were released.[/QUOTE] He gave them weapons which were used to slaughter hundreds of innocent people. [editline]06:42AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Uberman77883;23906637]Yes he did. The world stomped all over him because he was weak.[/quote] How is successfully establishing peace in many areas weak? most of the shit that failed was a result of Regan. [quote]He stagnated the economy.[/quote] correction, he didn't help the economy after Fords mess. [quote]You know, theres a reason why he lost re-election to Ronald Reagan.[/quote] Because Americans are insane? [quote]Reagan wasn't a nutjob.[/quote] When you give weapons to ultra right rebels who are known for murdering innocents, then I think you're a nutjob. [quote]According to the people here on FP, anybody who leans to the right a tiny bit is a far right nutjob.[/quote] a lot are. You're no different, boyo. [quote]Left isn't the only way to go, you know.[/QUOTE] well reality disagrees with you
[QUOTE=Insulator;23910414]Why all the hate? it's like the antithesis of Michal Moore films. Deal with it.[/QUOTE] A fat guy no one takes seriously trying to arrest the CEO of the 40th largest corporation in the world is funny. The intro to the trailer to this movie is not.
I'm going to say it as strait up as I can. [b]This movie is a fucking repeat of all of the BS that's already been rebutted, dismantled, etc. The conservative viewpoint is angsty at the fact the president is black, end of discussion[/b] Plus I don't care how many times you say it, reaganomics is what put us in this shithole in the first place. Complaining about obama gets us nowhere nor does it mean anything. Also this film looks like it was a five-second sculpt-render project in blender, at least I turn on SSAO and motion blur jesus christ. Speaking of BS, love the BS-O-Meter. We need to shop the :irony: now.
Clinton was a horrible president, he was too worried about his image and affairs to do anything. Can't deny that.
[QUOTE=Warhol;23910490]well reality disagrees with you[/QUOTE] Lets take a look at those hard left countries, and see how they are doing. United Kingdom, now just Britain Greece, broker than me Spain, following Greece Canada, doing pretty well, actually
[QUOTE=Ragy;23910570]Clinton was a horrible president, he was too worried about his image and affairs to do anything. Can't deny that.[/QUOTE] [B]DON'T YOU EVER FUCKING SAY TH- [/B]Oh, it's just you :v:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23909283]All despite the fact that, if it were so simple for pro-deregulation presidents to get elected like that, there would never be a Democrat in office in the past 50 years, and for the matter that, no matter how much money you throw at things, it's the [I]voter[/I] who decides the election, not who rakes in the most money.[/QUOTE] Reagan just oozed charisma. Moreso than Carter.
[QUOTE=Ridge;23910483]Ignoring all the other stupid shit you had in your post, Warhol, I'm going to focus on this.[/quote] lol, as opposed to you, the guy who thinks Bush was a fucking wonderful president, and my post is stupid okey [quote]How was he a war criminal? Last I checked, he didnt try to kill off a race of people he didn't like, nuke a city, or take POWs on death marches and starve them.[/QUOTE] He instigated a war, purposely let the country waste away, many, many, many people died as a result of negligence in a useless war. His administation covers up and supports war crimes.
[QUOTE=Ridge;23910597]Lets take a look at those hard left countries, and see how they are doing. United Kingdom, now just Britain Greece, broker than me Spain, following Greece Canada, doing pretty well, actually[/QUOTE] Scandinavia :v: France :v: Switzerland :v: Iceland :v:
[QUOTE=Ragy;23910570]Clinton was a horrible president, he was too worried about his image and affairs to do anything. Can't deny that.[/QUOTE] What fucking reality do you live in, certainly not the normal one. [editline]06:54AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;23910597]Lets take a look at those hard left countries, and see how they are doing. United Kingdom, now just Britain Greece, broker than me Spain, following Greece Canada, doing pretty well, actually[/QUOTE] Greece and Spain are in recessions based on banks and large corporations. Capitalism brought them down. not sure why you mentioned UK and Canada.
[QUOTE=Ridge;23910483]How was he a war criminal? Last I checked, he didnt try to kill off a race of people he didn't like, nuke a city, or take POWs on death marches and starve them.[/QUOTE] He did sanction torture.
[QUOTE=Warhol;23910684]lol, as opposed to you, the guy who thinks Bush was a fucking wonderful president, and my post is stupid[/quote] I don't think he was a wonderful president. I dont even think he was a decent president. He got handed a shit sandwich 8 months after he was elected. [quote]He instigated a war, purposely let the country waste away, many, many, many people died as a result of negligence in a useless war. His administation covers up and supports war crimes.[/QUOTE] Actually, Osama bin Laden instigated the war. Get it right.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23910570]Clinton was a horrible president, he was too worried about his image and affairs to do anything. Can't deny that.[/QUOTE] Back this assertion up please
[QUOTE=Ragy;23910326]That's all the left does, call people racists.[/QUOTE] lol, not at all.
Also you might be hard pressed to find a president who doesn't care about his image.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23910570]Clinton was a horrible president, he was too worried about his image and affairs to do anything. Can't deny that.[/QUOTE] you know those taxes and deficit that the tea party is complaining about bill clinton cut taxes for middle and lower class americans and came out with a budget surplus which nobody else had done before or after him since LBJ in fact ronald reagan's presidency saw an increase in taxation and he pretty much created the deficit of today [img]http://www.well.com/~sunbear/deficit.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Ridge;23910750]I don't think he was a wonderful president. I dont even think he was a decent president. He got handed a shit sandwich 8 months after he was elected.[/quote] Actually, the economy was doing great because of Clinton, there was relative peace besides small scale wars popping up and public support for the US outside the US was at an all time high, far after 9/11. guess what el presidenti did he fucked it all up [quote]Actually, [B]Osama bin Laden instigated the war[/B]. Get it right.[/QUOTE] I was referring to Iraq.
[QUOTE=Warhol;23910719]Greece and Spain are in recessions based on banks and large corporations. Capitalism brought them down. not sure why you mentioned UK and Canada.[/QUOTE] This is also true. Also Germany is pretty liberal aside from a lot of the Christian values, even then social issues like same-sex marriage are met with a liberal approach.
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