• Ore. police prepare for neighboring pot users
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[QUOTE=MadPro119;38769976]Legalization is only a matter of time at this point.[/QUOTE] I thought it would be one of those things I'd really hope for but never expect to happen while I'm young. Now it just needs to move East; I so have my fingers crossed. [editline]10th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=counterpo0;38772302]Its more about knowing your limits. Driving while comfortably high is amazing. I mean its pretty simple, obey the speed limit and traffic laws. If anything i drive safer because i don't want to get popped.[/QUOTE] As much as I am against driving under the influence in general I have driven high and it was fantastic. I'm much more calculated and I'm in less of a hurry to get places. Now if you're stoned out of your mind it can be extremely dangerous; a moderate buzz won't hinder you all that much.
[QUOTE=Klammyxxl;38770300]I only drive [under the influence] when I know that I can do it[/QUOTE] -every drunk driver ever
[QUOTE=Reflectent;38770088]what a coincidence i live near portland and im going to washington soon[/QUOTE] I live in Oregon and just spent the weekend in Washington. Totally unrelated to the pot.
[QUOTE=valkery;38770164]Really, you shouldn't be driving while impaired in any way. eg. Drunk, High, Sleepy, Texting, Talking on the phone, [B]getting a handjob [/B]etc. All of these things are likely to cause issues while driving, and are best to steer clear of.[/QUOTE]Giving? Sure. Getting? I don't know. I couldn't tell, but he seemed to be doing just fine.
[QUOTE=kevlar jens;38772560]-every drunk driver ever[/QUOTE] alcohol impairment is completely different
I find my driving abilities are enhanced while under the influence of marijuana. Increased attentiveness to other drivers and pedestrians. Driving the speed limit feels more than satisfactory. Of course I try to avoid doing so just simply because A. It's illegal to smoke where I reside (Idaho) and B. It's just rule of thumb to not drive while under the influence of anything. I just hope that this change will happen in Idaho soon, it's a Republican state so chances are it will be one of the last but one can wish.
I'm disapointed that people are trying to justify being high while driving. Being high effects people in different ways, and if you die in a car accident people can't just say "but I drive normally when I'm high"
[QUOTE=Zambies!;38773567]I'm disapointed that people are trying to justify being high while driving. Being high effects people in different ways, and if you die in a car accident people can't just say "but I drive normally when I'm high"[/QUOTE]It genuinely does impair you. Not in necessarily the same ways as alcohol, but it still impairs you and makes you a hazard to others. People can say they know where their limit is or that they drive fine, but your perception is distorted and will tell you anything, you cannot make a sound judgement on the matter in such a state.
[QUOTE=valkery;38770164]Really, you shouldn't be driving while impaired in any way. eg. Drunk, High, Sleepy, Texting, Talking on the phone, getting a handjob etc. All of these things are likely to cause issues while driving, and are best to steer clear of.[/QUOTE] Guilty of all but the first two
ok i reckon you shouldn't drive under the influence of any drugs, but you can't compare driving high to driving drunk, and i seriously doubt there would be more traffic accidents if there was an increase in stoned drivers. but whatever that's beside the point, shouldn't be driving impaired and yeah that's that
heres an article listing heaps of studies (with links to said studies) showing that stoned driving is a very minimal risk [url]http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4131.html[/url]
[QUOTE=monkey11;38772700]I live in Oregon and just spent the weekend in Washington. Totally unrelated to the pot.[/QUOTE] not me B)
[QUOTE=kevlar jens;38772560]-every drunk driver ever[/QUOTE] okay, but i'm not drunk...
[QUOTE=Zambies!;38773567]I'm disapointed that people are trying to justify being high while driving. Being high effects people in different ways, and if you die in a car accident people can't just say "but I drive normally when I'm high"[/QUOTE] People are upset because they are competent enough to drive yet can test positive. Obviously there is a limit before you're a serious danger, but they haven't reached that limit. Lots of people will be driving like they do all the time and all of a sudden out of the blue it's a problem. It's worth it though for legal weed.
Blazing proudly across the bridge in Vancouver WA. (generic 420 blaze it faygot comment)
[QUOTE=valkery;38770164]Really, you shouldn't be driving while impaired in any way. eg. Drunk, High, Sleepy, Texting, Talking on the phone, getting a handjob etc. All of these things are likely to cause issues while driving, and are best to steer clear of.[/QUOTE] Blowjob/Handjobs are quite distracting while driving. I can attest to this.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;38769975]My teacher who used to be a cop told us he has only seen one instance where pot has killed someone because they were driving under the influence. I don't think driving under the influence of marijuana is going to be much of an issue. The guy drove off a cliff because he dropped his blunt and tried to grab it if anyone is wondering.[/QUOTE] Pot didn't kill him, same would have happened if it was a cig or a fucking carrot he was trying to grab. [QUOTE=valkery;38770164]Really, you shouldn't be driving while impaired in any way. eg. Drunk, High, Sleepy, Texting, Talking on the phone, getting a handjob etc. All of these things are likely to cause issues while driving, and are best to steer clear of.[/QUOTE] There's actually documentation showing you get better at driving(mostly) when high, due to being more paranoid, thus you're more careful.
Meanwhile in my car....IM DRIVING STONED..just like I have been for the past 3 years..100% accident free..
[QUOTE=Zareox7;38780930]Driving is quite distracting while getting a blowjob/handjob. I can attest to this.[/QUOTE] ftfy
Why can't we just agree that driving under the influence of anything is not a great idea.
I'm not going to say it's a good idea, but driving while high still isn't nearly as bad as driving drink, even a little bit tipsy. Regardless of the fact that most people probably smoke pot quite a bit less than drink, you hear about people killed by drunk drivers quite often, but when's the last time you heard about anyone killed by a high driver? Here's an anecdote so listen or ignore it as much as you want, but of all the stories my friends tell me of dealers, people who live their lives high, the only vehicle accidents I've been told of also involved alcohol. And here's some science if you'll have none of my stories: [url]http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/explainer/2011/11/does_marijuana_make_you_a_more_dangerous_driver_than_alcohol_.html[/url] I wonder if these cops will be extra vigilant about lazy driving and find more drunkards than stoners.
uhhh you're article states that drivers who smoke half a joint and then drive are far more likely than sober drivers to get into an accident. Anyways even those who smoke about a third of a joint can struggle maintaining head way, estimating distance and time, and maintaining speed. The focus of your article is "Is driving while drunk [I]more dangerous[/I] than driving while high." that's not the issue here, the issue here is "Is driving while high [I]dangerous[/I]." and as the article admits, it is, just not as dangerous as driving while drunk. Even so there is difference between a moderately stoned driver, and a really stoned driver, so why must driving while high be banned completely? The answer is that we lack a reliable of judging just how high a person is. With alcohol its easy, we just use BAC via a simple breathalyzer test. No such thing exists for pot (yet). Until then, I don't think anyone should be legally allowed to drive high.
It's funny, Washington State students would go to Moscow to get drunk because the drinking age was 18. Now the tables have turned.
[QUOTE=Disotrtion;38782576]uhhh you're article states that drivers who smoke half a joint and then drive are far more likely than sober drivers to get into an accident. Anyways even those who smoke about a third of a joint can struggle maintaining head way, estimating distance and time, and maintaining speed. The focus of your article is "Is driving while drunk [I]more dangerous[/I] than driving while high." that's not the issue here, the issue here is "Is driving while high [I]dangerous[/I]." and as the article admits, it is, just not as dangerous as driving while drunk. Even so there is difference between a moderately stoned driver, and a really stoned driver, so why must driving while high be banned completely? The answer is that we lack a reliable of judging just how high a person is. With alcohol its easy, we just use BAC via a simple breathalyzer test. No such thing exists for pot (yet). Until then, I don't think anyone should be legally allowed to drive high.[/QUOTE] Impressive that you needed to read my post and the article to be able to write that response and you still seem to have no idea what I said. It's safer than being drunk, but no shit it's not as safe as being sober. I remember seeing some research that showed you're twice as likely to be in an accident when moderately high, while 20 times as likely when moderately drunk.
[QUOTE=Klammyxxl;38770300]driving high is only apparently dangerous when you've had so much to smoke that your dizziness is apparent. I've driven high hundreds of times, but I only drive high when I know that I can do it. I'm just curious as to what type of sobriety tests they'll create to address this issue. drinking is understandable, but cycling high is easier than cycling sober. even if you were biking while high, I doubt that anyone could really tell.[/QUOTE] They'll ask you if you want to go to Taco Bell.
[editline]10th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Stormcharger;38773853]heres an article listing heaps of studies (with links to said studies) showing that stoned driving is a very minimal risk [url]http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4131.html[/url][/QUOTE] Those are all old out-dated studies most of which seem to be done by universities or organizations that I've never even heard of. Also, ever hear about cherry-picking? [editline]10th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Noss;38782057]Why can't we just agree that driving under the influence of anything is not a great idea.[/QUOTE] Because people will throw around non-peer reviewed articles saying pot makes you more intelligent or some bullshit.
[QUOTE=Mrs. Moon;38783747][editline]10th December 2012[/editline] Those are all old out-dated studies most of which seem to be done by universities or organizations that I've never even heard of. Also, ever hear about cherry-picking? [editline]10th December 2012[/editline] Because people will throw around non-peer reviewed articles saying pot makes you more intelligent or some bullshit.[/QUOTE] ok so if you haven't heard of them it means theyre bullshit?
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