• Thousands gather around capital to oppose healthcare bill
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[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18231914]But should a unemployed, welfare living fatass get the same coverage as the rich hardworking businessman?[/QUOTE] the hardworking business man can pay for his own private healthcare. any poor citizen on welfare can get medicaid. your point is invalid.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18231914]But should a unemployed, welfare living fatass get the same coverage as the rich hardworking businessman?[/QUOTE] So... 18% of people without health care and 4.5 million people who have been denied coverage. are all fat, welfare living and unemployed? When your mother beat you as a child, did she accidentally make you brain dead? [editline]03:37AM[/editline] because you are so ungodly stupid, how can you be considered normal?
American politics is shit and boring. British politics is where it's at, it's a fucking spectator sport, those MPs tear the shit outta each other.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18231973]So... 18% of people without health care and 4.5 million people who have been denied coverage. are all fat, welfare living and unemployed? When your mother beat you as a child, did she accidentally make you brain dead? [editline]03:37AM[/editline] because you are so ungodly stupid, how can you be considered normal?[/QUOTE] I love the bad attempts at offending me. Do all liberals use personal insults as every other argument? I sure hope not.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232089]I love the bad attempts at offending me. Do all liberals use personal insults as every other argument?[/QUOTE] he's not a liberal on another note do all conservatives accuse bad things of being liberal
[QUOTE=Conscript;18232109]he's not a liberal on another note do all conservatives accuse bad things of being liberal[/QUOTE] Either way, he's certainly a leftist. I don't care what he calls himself.
[QUOTE=LordLoss;18232023]American politics is shit and boring. British politics is where it's at, it's a fucking spectator sport, those MPs tear the shit outta each other.[/QUOTE] It's really entertaining
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232130]Either way, he's certainly a leftist. I don't care what he calls himself.[/QUOTE] you are focusing on the immature attacks while ignoring the actual argument against your point please address them
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232089]I love the bad attempts at offending me. Do all liberals use personal insults as every other argument? I sure hope not.[/QUOTE] The irony oh god it's so delicious you whine about me insulting you and that's it no rebuttal nothing thank you for proving my point <3 conscript
[QUOTE=PhantomNorth;18232162]you are focusing on the immature attacks while ignoring the actual argument against your point please address them[/QUOTE] No socialized healthcare. Pretty straight forward.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232193]No socialized healthcare. Pretty straight forward.[/QUOTE] i didn't mean restate your argument i mean address the two posts that countered what you said. don't get hung up on trotsky's personal insults, just go for the issues, or else you're just as bad as he is.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232193]No socialized healthcare. Pretty straight forward.[/QUOTE] A+ brilliant argument will read again
[QUOTE=PhantomNorth;18232251]i didn't mean restate your argument i mean address the two posts that countered what you said. don't get hung up on trotsky's personal insults, just go for the issues, or else you're just as bad as he is.[/QUOTE] People should be able to use their own money to pay for healthcare. Why should a rich businessman have to pay higher taxes to get worse healthcare simply because he has a lot of money? It would encourage said successful businessman to work less hard, and still receive the same care.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232336]People should be able to use their own money to pay for healthcare. Why should a rich businessman have to pay higher taxes to get worse healthcare simply because he has a lot of money? It would encourage said successful businessman to work less hard, and still receive the same care.[/QUOTE] It hasn't really affected business productivity in places with Universal Healthcare.
[QUOTE=MercZ;18232379]It hasn't really affected business productivity in places with Universal Healthcare.[/QUOTE] It just takes advantage of the upper class.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232396]It just takes advantage of the upper class.[/QUOTE] Yea, it's a shame they got to pay taxes. :downs:
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232396]It just takes advantage of the upper class.[/QUOTE] nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the poor, poor, rich people THEY MAY NOT... GASP, be able to buy that new blackberry if their taxes up poor, poor, rich people THEY have it SO rough ;-;
Today's it's our right to pay for health care, tomorrow, MIND CONTROL CHIPS!
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232336]People should be able to use their own money to pay for healthcare. Why should a rich businessman have to pay higher taxes to get worse healthcare simply because he has a lot of money? It would encourage said successful businessman to work less hard, and still receive the same care.[/QUOTE] the upper class will still have more money than everyone else and no, they would work the same if not harder to get more money, because the upper class does not want to live without their luxuries, so if they have to pay higher taxes they will just somehow get more money to keep their obscene standard of living
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232336]People should be able to use their own money to pay for healthcare. Why should a rich businessman have to pay higher taxes to get worse healthcare simply because he has a lot of money? It would encourage said successful businessman to work less hard, and still receive the same care.[/QUOTE] You REALLY don't know what you're talking about, do you?
[QUOTE=PhantomNorth;18232455]the upper class will still have more money than everyone else and no, they would work the same if not harder to get more money, because the upper class does not want to live without their luxuries, so if they have to pay higher taxes they will just somehow get more money to keep their obscene standard of living[/QUOTE] But is it really fair to tax them more for trying harder? You'd be surprised at how much of their income goes to the Government.
[QUOTE=PhantomNorth;18232455]the upper class will still have more money than everyone else and no, they would work the same if not harder to get more money, because the upper class does not want to live without their luxuries, so if they have to pay higher taxes they will just somehow get more money to keep their obscene standard of living[/QUOTE] Or put their money in a bank in Switzerland and not pay any taxes.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232539]But is it really fair to tax them more for trying harder? You'd be surprised at how much of their income goes to the Government.[/QUOTE] lol into the government pockets you mean? It's unfair to tax the rich but not the poor? how do you arrive to these god awfully stupid conclusions.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232539]But is it really fair to tax them more for trying harder? You'd be surprised at how much of their income goes to the Government.[/QUOTE] nah I wouldn't i know that it's a lot but the max is what, 34%? 34% of one million leaves you with 660000 dollars to live on a year how can you complain about that
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18232555]lol into the government pockets you mean? It's unfair to tax the rich but not the poor? how do you arrive to these god awfully stupid conclusions.[/QUOTE] No tax at all would be the ideal solution.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;18232553]Or put their money in a bank in Switzerland and not pay any taxes.[/QUOTE] i think u can get arrested for that its called tax evasion [editline]10:10PM[/editline] [QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;18232571]No tax at all would be the ideal solution.[/QUOTE] no it wouldnt thats a terrible idea
[QUOTE=PhantomNorth;18232568]nah I wouldn't i know that it's a lot but the max is what, 34%? 34% of one million leaves you with 660000 dollars to live on a year how can you complain about that[/QUOTE] Well when you own a small business and you have to use that $660,000 to pay employees, maintain an office building or a warehouse or whatever, and that doesn't leave you with much.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18232555]lol into the government pockets you mean? It's unfair to tax the rich but not the poor? how do you arrive to these god awfully stupid conclusions.[/QUOTE] Stop acting like I'm still arguing with you. I'm not. [editline]10:13PM[/editline] [QUOTE=PhantomNorth;18232568]nah I wouldn't i know that it's a lot but the max is what, 34%? 34% of one million leaves you with 660000 dollars to live on a year how can you complain about that[/QUOTE] You're spending 34% of your working hours working for free.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18232591]Stop acting like I'm still arguing with you. I'm not. [editline]10:13PM[/editline] You're spending 34% of your working hours working for free.[/QUOTE] no, you're giving 34% of your money to the government through taxes so that they can maintain infrastructure and pay for government programs and national defense and everything else that they spend taxes on you make it seem like the government takes 34% of your money away and gives it right to poor people
[QUOTE=PhantomNorth;18232575]i think u can get arrested for that its called tax evasion [/QUOTE] Doesn't stop people from doing it.
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