• IBM patents idea of making your files worse over time
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[QUOTE=DarkMonkey;33448422]Storage space, or security.[/QUOTE] Why not just delete it then? It's like slowly shredding a paper over the course of several years.
One step closer to systems that work like the human brain ?
[QUOTE=Aiksey;33448763]One step closer to systems that work like the human brain ?[/QUOTE] Wouldn't a system without alzheimer be better than with?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;33448401]Why would you want files to degrade? I can't imagine why anyone would want a half-degraded file, unless this is just for the novelty of it or something.[/QUOTE] I personally do not see a business reason for a digital file to physically degrade over time. But for novelty purposes, it could be cool. Imagine going over an archive of really old files and them looking old rather than brand new. Besides, we may never actually see this. They might have it patented just to protect their method of doing it.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;33449120]I personally do not see a business reason for a digital file to physically degrade over time. But for novelty purposes, it could be cool. [/QUOTE]If it can physically degrade, wouldn't it be essentially HDD degrading? [QUOTE=hexpunK;33449120] Imagine going over an archive of really old files and them looking old rather than brand new. [/QUOTE]How can a digital file look new or old?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33449203]If it can physically degrade, wouldn't it be essentially HDD degrading? How can a digital file look new or old?[/QUOTE] In the case of PDF, Word, etc. documents, you could emulate paper ageing, ink fade and moisture damage over time. Images could fade in a similar way. The patent seems to describe this kind of effect. Obviously executables, libraries, and other non-readable files would not be able to do this. Which is why I can't see this having a business use.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;33449387]In the case of PDF, Word, etc. documents, you could emulate paper ageing, ink fade and moisture damage over time. Images could fade in a similar way. The patent seems to describe this kind of effect. Obviously executables, libraries, and other non-readable files would not be able to do this. Which is why I can't see this having a business use.[/QUOTE] I don't see it having any use at all. *leaves a file* *later needs to retrieve it* "aw fuck, the ink faded and the paper crumbled. I need to digitally rewrite it again. It just seems really useless. The whole point of digital files is that they do not fade. If you're some weirdo and like degraded files, just open ms paint and save your shit as jpeg. Oh wait you can't now, it's patented.
I don't get people saying it will clean from old files. The storage amount were getting now is more than enough for various archives especially if they are compressed. And if you REALLY don't need them just run an auto-deleter with specified date expiry parameters.
Its basically for novelty and for fun. And it probably would be alongside the non-aged version. Are you all telling me you've never done something that wasn't for novelty? So every single waking minute of your life is for a functional purpose (other than entertainment)?
[QUOTE=Collin665;33450777]Its basically for novelty and for fun. And it probably would be alongside the non-aged version. Are you all telling me you've never done something that wasn't for novelty? So every single waking minute of your life is for a functional purpose (other than entertainment)?[/QUOTE] Well one thing I haven't done is patent stupid shit.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33450824]Well one thing I haven't done is patent stupid shit.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.terrariaonline.com/attachments/nofun-jpg.2703/?embedded=1[/img]
I would not like it the way it is here, but in games or so, after 5 or more years, when they have not been updated, they will be free. You open the game, and if you before got - Insert CD to play you now get to play the game because it is old enough.
[QUOTE=lavacano;33450978][img]http://www.terrariaonline.com/attachments/nofun-jpg.2703/?embedded=1[/img][/QUOTE] Patenting file degradation is fun since when? [editline]26th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=tratzzz;33451002]I would not like it the way it is here, but in games or so, after 5 or more years, when they have not been updated, they will be free. You open the game, and if you before got - Insert CD to play you now get to play the game because it is old enough.[/QUOTE] Faking file date is easy.
[QUOTE=DarkMonkey;33448422]Storage space, or security.[/QUOTE] But it doesn't slowly delete them, it just corrupts them.
[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;33431703]On the plus side the patent means Apple can't use this idea, and god knows they'd abuse it.[/QUOTE] Don't worry, they will [I]"make"[/I] their own version and then sue IBM for copying them.
Who cares if apple makes their own version. This "idea" is not new and can't be used for anything. If they really make files on macs to degrade, who cares, it's a mac.
ITT we don't read the thread.
[QUOTE=Resfan;33451111]Don't worry, they will [I]"make"[/I] their own version and then sue IBM for copying them.[/QUOTE] Didn't they sue Motorola for stealing their phone's design when it wasn't even announced yet
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;33451421]Didn't they sue Motorola for stealing their phone's design when it wasn't even announced yet[/QUOTE] Exactly.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33451003]Patenting file degradation is fun since when?[/QUOTE] Fun as in "lol this Word document is old so they made it look like old paper that's funny". IBM isn't stupid, they would make sure it's completely harmless if they ever employed it. Hell, I bet there'd be a switch somewhere to turn it on and off.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33450824]Well one thing I haven't done is patent stupid shit.[/QUOTE] That's kind of why the patent system exists. You patent [B]anything[/B] you invent that you want to ensure only you can produce, or lease the right to produce out to others. It doesn't matter if it is useful, it doesn't matter if it doesn't work, the method of doing it is now yours. Like I said, we probably won't see a use for this for years other than novelty. Which is a perfectly valid reason to patent something. Pull that stick out of your ass, it's a interesting concept no matter how pointless it is to the everyman.
That's really dumb.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;33451688]That's kind of why the patent system exists. You patent [B]anything[/B] you invent that you want to ensure only you can produce, or lease the right to produce out to others. It doesn't matter if it is useful, it doesn't matter if it doesn't work, the method of doing it is now yours. Like I said, we probably won't see a use for this for years other than novelty. Which is a perfectly valid reason to patent something. Pull that stick out of your ass, it's a interesting concept no matter how pointless it is to the everyman.[/QUOTE] Actually it does matter if its useful and works. [url]http://www.uspto.gov/patents/resources/general_info_concerning_patents.jsp#heading-4[/url]
[QUOTE=Tolyzor;33451953]Actually it does matter if its useful and works. [url]http://www.uspto.gov/patents/resources/general_info_concerning_patents.jsp#heading-4[/url][/QUOTE] Well that helps :v: Their definition of useful seems to be as long as it works for the intended purpose, which this does, the purpose is to age files, and it ages files. While not actually useful for any sane humans, it completes its task.
Would be cool as a fun 'feature' or something. Like artificial aging.. see pictures as if they were stored in a dusty attic for 10 years. But I know that's not what this is about.
[QUOTE=Theonegamefreak;33452706]Would be cool as a fun 'feature' or something. Like artificial aging.. see pictures as if they were stored in a dusty attic for 10 years. But I know that's not what this is about.[/QUOTE] but that is exactly what it aims to do
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;33452769]but that is exactly what it aims to do[/QUOTE] Nope, it aims to do [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1142985?p=33447238&viewfull=1#post33447238"][U]this[/U][/URL].
where is that information cited from? the article says this "simulates a natural aging process to documents printed on paper" [editline]26th November 2011[/editline] all you did was come up with an idea that was suggested, without evidence, by TH. there isn't any evidence to back that claim up.
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