Elgin High School coach Martina Stanley jailed for 15 days for sex with 17-year-old
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[QUOTE=Mr cake fingers;45142394]"every schoolboy’s dream"
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Each to their own I guess.
I honestly think the sentence was fair, after all it wasn't an act committed with malicious intent, 2 consenting people want to bang? Let them bang.[/QUOTE]
That really is a face of someone who just realized their life is practically over.
She looks like a deer staring at headlights.
[QUOTE=Tudd;45143832]She looks like a deer staring at headlights.[/QUOTE]
Yeah she is being booked in as a sex offender, she is prolly scared shitless.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45142477]He's not underage, 17 is legal in Ohio, and she wasn't charged with statutory either.
That being said, do we have anything other than the boy's statement that this was consensual? It's not unheard of for a victim to deny the crime occurred to save face, especially when it's a teen boy being raped by a woman.[/QUOTE]
Except in Ohio the age become 18 if one party is a teacher, administrator, etc.
This confused me, I went to Elgin High School, but it was the one in Illinois
[QUOTE=katbug;45141175]statutory rape laws need adjustment, not to be removed.
but the fact that what she is being charged of is so severe, and her sentence so light, shows a clear bastardization of the system
literally everything is wrong with this case[/QUOTE]
Consent laws are puritan levels of outdated, I think a fuckin' 17 year old can make good decisions by then.
[QUOTE]“Would this be different if this was a male coach and a female student? It seems like we might look more harshly on that, which we shouldn’t,” he said.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's bullshit. :rolleyes:
Also, what the hell. Age of consent in Ohio is [B]16[/B], how is this even an issue?
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;45141150]that's not a fucking victim
statutory rape law needs to go away
ughh[/QUOTE]
Like hell it doesnt. They need that shit on the books, forever.
I think some of the people in here need to rework their arguments. So what if the boy instigated? He's below the age of consent. Could a 14-year-old not instigate a relationship with a teacher? Or a curious kid who just had their first sex ed class? The point of age of consent law is that it's the age at which we deem that people are responsible enough to make this decision for themselves.
Note that I don't have a problem if you think that the age of consent should be [I]lowered[/I] here or that things should be judged more closely on a case-by-case basis (though I can't really think of a very practical way to do that), but the argument that he initiated the relationship doesn't really work.
EDIT: People have pointed out that the age of consent in Ohio is 16. That's fine. My point still stands for the situation I thought it was (which some people seemed to be arguing anyway). She still should have faced consequences but probably not legal repercussions.
[QUOTE=Mr cake fingers;45142394]"every schoolboy’s dream"
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Each to their own I guess.
I honestly think the sentence was fair, after all it wasn't an act committed with malicious intent, 2 consenting people want to bang? Let them bang.[/QUOTE]
Anyone can look awful in a bad picture, in case everyone forgot this
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;45145744]He's below the age of consent.[/QUOTE]
Age of consent in his state is sixteen. It's not an age issue this time around, it's the fact that it was between a teacher and a student. That's also why her sentence wasn't as severe as the other monthly "female teacher sleeps with a male student" stories.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45142163]17 years old? That's not disturbing or sick at all, america is weird, age of conscent over here is 15 so I only see an issue with a student-teacher relationship which could cause bias on the grades, but besides that I dont see anything wrong with it.[/QUOTE]
While it is 15 normally, if it's with someone in a position of trust, such as a legal guardian or teacher, it's 18. So in this case, it technically would've been illegal still.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;45145744]I think some of the people in here need to rework their arguments. So what if the boy instigated? [B]He's below the age of consent. [/B]Could a 14-year-old not instigate a relationship with a teacher? Or a curious kid who just had their first sex ed class? The point of age of consent law is that it's the age at which we deem that people are responsible enough to make this decision for themselves.
Note that I don't have a problem if you think that the age of consent should be [I]lowered[/I] here or that things should be judged more closely on a case-by-case basis (though I can't really think of a very practical way to do that), [B]but the argument that he initiated the relationship doesn't really work[/B].[/QUOTE]
No, he isn't, and I really think it should. That matters profusely, and the law just tosses it aside.
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[QUOTE=Lord Fear;45145921]While it is 15 normally, if it's with someone in a position of trust, such as a legal guardian or teacher, it's 18. So in this case, it technically would've been illegal still.[/QUOTE]
Where's this stated? Not saying to be hostile; I'm genuinely unfamiliar with this clause.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;45145744]I think some of the people in here need to rework their arguments. So what if the boy instigated? He's below the age of consent. Could a 14-year-old not instigate a relationship with a teacher? Or a curious kid who just had their first sex ed class? The point of age of consent law is that it's the age at which we deem that people are responsible enough to make this decision for themselves.
Note that I don't have a problem if you think that the age of consent should be [I]lowered[/I] here or that things should be judged more closely on a case-by-case basis (though I can't really think of a very practical way to do that), but the argument that he initiated the relationship doesn't really work.[/QUOTE]
He's actually 1 year over the age of consent of Ohio
[editline]18th June 2014[/editline]
Teacher should be fired and banned from teaching but giving her sex offender status is retarded.
No different than if that same 17 year old graduated and went to college a year later and slept with a professor, which is 100% legal and still falling under the "position of authority" argument.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;45146055]No, he isn't, and I really think it should. That matters profusely, and the law just tosses it aside.[/QUOTE]
It did matter profusely. You can be pretty damn certain she would have gotten much more jail time had he been under.
If the US is anything like Canada then age of consent may not apply when one party is an authority figure. At that point anyone under 18 can be considered a minor by the courts.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;45146832]It did matter profusely. You can be pretty damn certain she would have gotten much more jail time had he been under.[/QUOTE]
But that's not the scenario. The scenario is that he is of the age of consent, and also consented, if not, [I]pushed[/I] for the sexual relations. Assuming the article is true, it was, in no way, any abuse of power, whatsoever. And the fact that the law does not care about that is irritating to me.
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Not bad
way too harsh
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;45146055]
Where's this stated? Not saying to be hostile; I'm genuinely unfamiliar with this clause.[/QUOTE]
What I said was in regards to Fatfatfatty and his comment about it being 15 in Sweden, so it has to do with Swedish laws.
I could give you an extract out of the Swedish law that states this, but I doubt you'd be interested in that.
I am however quite certain you have similar laws in the US, but I can't help you with that.
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