Black man shoots 3 white girls for their white privilege.
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[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39442936]by how much they're paid
clearly[/QUOTE]
Justin Beiber is more productive than every cancer researcher ever?
Volunteer work contributes no productivity?
Stay at home parents aren't productive?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39442953]Justin Beiber is more productive than every cancer researcher ever?
Volunteer work contributes no productivity?
Stay at home parents aren't productive?[/QUOTE]
eh i guess not then
[editline]2nd February 2013[/editline]
it's certainly a useful proxy though
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39442953]Justin Beiber is more productive than every cancer researcher ever?[/QUOTE]
first is because their research takes a while to produce tangible results that can be used in the real world. in this case, say for instance they actually produce a cancer treatment, in that case, the benefit created will probably overtake bieber very quickly
[quote]Volunteer work contributes no productivity?
Stay at home parents aren't productive?[/QUOTE]
they do, but they aren't measured in money so that makes things a bit difficult
[quote=the bell curve]Job performance may be measured in many different ways. Sometimes it is expressed as a natural quantitative measure (how many units a person produces per hour, for example), sometimes as structured ratings by supervisors or peers, sometimes as analyses of a work sample. When these measures of job productivity are correlated with measures of intelligence, the overall correlation, averaged over many tests and many jobs, is about 0.4. In the study of job performance and tests, the correlation between a test and job performance is usually referred to as the validity of the test, and we shall so refer to it for the rest of the discussion. Mathematically, validity and the correlation coefficient are identical. Later in the chapter we will show that a validity of 0.4 has large economic implications, and even validities half as large may warrant worrying about.
This figure of 0.4 is no more than a point of reference. As one might expect, the validities are higher for complex jobs than for simple ones. In Edwin Ghiselli’s mammoth compilation of job performance studies, mostly from the first half of the century, a reanalysis by John Hunter found a mean validity of 0.53 for the job family labeled “manager” and 0.46 for a “trades and crafts worker.” Even an “elementary industrial worker” had a mean validity of 0.37.
The Ghiselli data were extremely heterogeneous, with different studies using many different measures of cognitive ability, and include data that are decades old. A more recent set of data is available from a meta-analysis of 425 studies of job proficiency as predicted by the General Aptitude Test Battery (GATB), the U.S. Labor Department’s cognitive ability test for the screening of workers. The table below summarizes the results of John and Ronda Hunter’s reanalysis of these databases.
The average validity in the meta-analysis of the GATB studies was 0.45 The only job category with validity lower than 0.40 was the industrial category of “feeding/offbearing”—putting something into a machine or taking it out—which occupies fewer than 3 percent of U.S. workers in any case. Even at that bottom-most level of unskilled labor, measured intelligence did not entirely lose its predictiveness, with a mean validity of 0.23.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/r9O5HBE.png[/img]
The third major database bearing on this issue comes from the military, and it is in many ways the most satisfactory. The AFQT (Armed Forces Qualification Test) is extracted from the scores on several tests that everyone in the armed forces takes. It is an intelligence test, highly loaded on g. Everyone in the military goes to training schools, and everyone is measured for training success at the end of their schooling, with “training success” based on measures that directly assess job performance skills and knowledge. The job specialties in the armed forces include most of those found in the civilian world, as well a number that are not (e.g., combat). The military keeps all of these scores in personnel files and puts them on computers. The resulting database has no equal in the study of job productivity.
We will be returning to the military data for a closer look when we turn to subjects for which they are uniquely suited. For now, we will simply point out that the results from the military conform to the results in the civilian job market. The results for training success in the four major job families are shown in the table above. These results are based on results from 828 military schools and 472,539 military personnel. The average validity was 0.62. They hold true for individual schools as well. Even the lowest-validity school, combat, in which training success is heavily dependent on physical skills, the validity was still a substantial 0.45.
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take it or leave it
Ugh, I hate white people..
[QUOTE=thisispain;39442547]youre always welcome to join :)
we watch gaki no tsukai[/QUOTE]
I don't care for the oriental music or the variety shows but I've always wanted to scare the fuck out of children who utter a phrase three times in a row in front of a mirror in an unlit lavatory.
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Love me.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39440264]Do you know what the term "Free black" means?
It refers to former slaves that were freed under the civil war amendments. The civil war wasn't over until 1865. The document you've given to me is talking about riots in 1863, before the civil war was over, before slaverly was outlawed. Infact, with the ruling of Dred V. Scott, slaves weren't citizens, and could never be free. But that was also before the civil war amendments.[/QUOTE]
They were freemen, but they were still technically "slaves" since they had to abide by black codes. One of those laws forced them to work, sometimes in the plantations of racist owners.
[QUOTE=Rattegif;39441588]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faNge-o0V-k[/url][/QUOTE]
It was actually the other way around. The majority of settlers weren't as considerate and tolerant as the individuals portrayed in your video. The settlers illegally claimed land despite a court ruling (*cough* Andrew Jackson and the cherokees *cough*), wasted resources like the buffalos in order to expand the railroad industry, then there's the Wounded Knee Massacre and Trail of T-, do I need to go on?
I'm not telling you to "check your privilege", I'm telling you that you shouldn't disregard or undermine the things that others went through since it's been regurgitated constantly in your history class.
[QUOTE=Rents;39438907]Here's a handy chart.
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5636656/tumblr_mbw3liX7dU1qkovk2o1_1280.png[/t][/QUOTE]
Damn, I'm a -90 on the privileged scale. Guess that means I win in "who's the most disadvantaged" games?
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39442580]for 1 and 2
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve[/url]
dunno about 3, you might have me there[/QUOTE]
To be honest 3 can be explained with a human expectation. Said racial group commits more crimes and the police as well as juries from the public will generally gravitate towards said expectation.
It's the same grounds for racial profiling. Humans are well only human. In a sense a long standing situation will create these kinds of cases.
It's a hard situation to deal with since it's essentially multifaceted racial expectation across all racial groups.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39443038]take it or leave it[/QUOTE]
That doesn't seem to explain how they measured job performance
If I was going to poke holes in it that's where I'd aim
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39443198]That doesn't seem to explain how they measured job performance
If I was going to poke holes in it that's where I'd aim[/QUOTE]
first paragraph
but that explanation goes into an idea of oppression and disadvantage for minorities. racial expectation is racism.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39443201]first paragraph[/QUOTE]
Yeah I saw that:
[quote] Sometimes it is expressed as a natural quantitative measure (how many units a person produces per hour, for example), sometimes as structured ratings by supervisors or peers, sometimes as analyses of a work sample.[/quote]
And I agree, sometimes those things are used. Great. How did they acquire measurements for the second and third one? And what was designated to be a satisfactory result for the first? Above average? Top 90%? What?
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39443201]first paragraph[/QUOTE]
that doesnt say how it's measured, only the types of ways it can be measured.
The game
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Like if Factory A is outfitted with the Product-O-Tron Mark I and employees average 20 widgets an hour while Factory B has the Product-O-Tron Mark II and averages 40 widgets an hour, if you equate widgets/hour with productivity Factory A is going look bloody useless
Same problem with work quality - maybe Factory A has employees shooting for no more than 1 kerfuffle every 100 widgets while Factory B has a significantly lower allowance for kerfuffles/widget
Ratings from supervisors and peers are the most problematic of all
People are dead and this thread is getting funnies
why
[QUOTE=phygon;39443453]People are dead and this thread is getting funnies
why[/QUOTE]
Because this is a strange example of situational irony in a way, and because of that it is funny. Regardless of how macabre it is, the entire incident was just whacky and weird.
How is this "situational irony" in a comical way
All I see is what appears to be a racist hate crime that resulted in dead people
This didn't even have a comical twist
[QUOTE=phygon;39443550]How is this "situational irony" in a comical way
All I see is what appears to be a racist hate crime that resulted in dead people
This didn't even have a comical twist[/QUOTE]
Well, playing into the entire, "only white people can be racists", thing that is prevalent in popular culture, you wouldn't expect a Black American to shoot white people because they, "didn't check their privilege".
[editline]2nd February 2013[/editline]
It's not much of a twist, but people find weird things funny.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39442552]i don't see this is the case at all? western governments are trying harder than ever to get more people into college, more people to have higher self-esteem, self-actualization and so on.[/QUOTE]
and i would say that's because we've gone more to the left, i don't think its strange that countries that lean more to the left also have better quality healthcare and less wealthy inequality. you could say countries that use the "power of the people" (passe as fuck i know) to balance capitalism is the pragmatic realisation of a working labour movement.
basically the point im trying to argue is that marxism as a method of understanding the effects of capitalism today is far from antiquated or a relic from the days of alchemy. i mean the days of "permanent revolution" are over, but i don't think we're at the point where we can put marx away only as a reference like aquinas
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39442552]then why has the standard of living increased monotonically throughout the entire 20th and 21st centuries[/QUOTE]
capitalism, probably
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39442552]
and I think we could do with some reactionary cold war politics.[/QUOTE]
none for me thanks
[quote]Only white people can be racit[/quote]
do people seriously believe this
[QUOTE=phygon;39443612]do people seriously believe this[/QUOTE]
It isn't that many people do believe it, it's more that it has eaten its way into popular culture. It is more of a trope now than an actual belief.
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I mean, hopefully.
[QUOTE=phygon;39443550]How is this "situational irony" in a comical way
All I see is what appears to be a racist hate crime that resulted in dead people
This didn't even have a comical twist[/QUOTE]
did you read the article? the things this dude said were incredibly humorous.
i mean death and pretty grim shit can still have an aspect of humor to it. it doesn't mean death is good, only that sometimes death is poetic or ironic.
[del]I mean, hopefully.[/del]
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;39443116]Damn, I'm a -90 on the privileged scale. Guess that means I win in "who's the most disadvantaged" games?[/QUOTE]
You must be a Swedish Jewish Plutocrat with an attractive face
who's also retarded
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;39443116]Damn, I'm a -90 on the privileged scale. Guess that means I win in "who's the most disadvantaged" games?[/QUOTE]
I got a -380
If I hear the phrase Sainus Squad being used pejoratively one more time you're getting banned. Associating people to some bogey man organization to try to discredit your opponent is lazy, bad posting-style and has no place in debating.
[editline]1st February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=RobbL;39439991]Btw going by Starpluck's definition of racism, it's impossible to be racist against japanese people for example[/QUOTE]
Absolutely not. What are you on about?
[QUOTE=Starpluck;39444273]If I hear the phrase Sainus Squad being used pejoratively one more time you're getting banned. Associating people to some bogey man organization to try to discredit your opponent is lazy, bad posting-style and has no place in debating.[/QUOTE] If you're referring to me, I wasn't mentioning the, "Sanius Squad", to make fun of the persons who 'compose' it but rather the fact that the label itself became synonymous with a Bloody Mary-esque shade. I don't want anyone to confuse a harmless quip that's irrelevant to the argument with something used as an offensive title by belligerents. I could have typed this out in a moment on my machine, but fuck it, I don't want to get back out of my bed.
[QUOTE=Clio;39438075]racism doesnt work like that sry[/QUOTE]
yes, racism against white people is impossible
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