• Tea Party people "outraged" that a fiscal deal was struck, warn that there will be "consequences" fo
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At first, I kinda liked the tea party because i hadn't seen a political movement form and start up before on such a large scale, and it was all interesting and exciting. How wrong I was in the 9th grade. Should have known when my crazy math teacher invited my to an event.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;39086843]I never understood why Atlas Shrugged is so liked by religious conservatives. It's written by a soviet-atheistic-sleep around women [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] And she was an immigrant too. [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] And a jew, but I guess they like Jews now because they kill muslims.[/QUOTE] not about the author, it's about the message also author's ideology is hardly soviet.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;39081636]The cancer of America. We already have more debt than GDP, do they think we can cut like one third of our spending with no tax increases? But we can't touch the military I bet. The military is like 45% of the discretionary spending. You can't not raise taxes.[/QUOTE] In regards to domestic spending; not a single dollar would be cut had we gone over the sequester. In fact, in none of the major plans would we cut anything in the traditional sense of the word. Had we gone through the sequester, spending would increase by 1.7 Trillion Dollars next year. Now it looks like spending will increase by roughly 1.8 Trillion dollars. I agree that we need to cut from the military just as much, if not more than domestic programs; but perhaps you can sympathize with the frustration of the right as of now. That being said, taxes WILL go up and the government WILL be taking more out of most Americans paychecks with the current deal. Now how does the situation seem unbalanced?
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;39088239]not about the author, it's about the message also author's ideology is hardly soviet.[/QUOTE] thankfully enough, the message is also terrible [editline]4th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Derubermensch;39088313]In regards to domestic spending; not a single dollar would be cut had we gone over the sequester. [/QUOTE] what? no. this is objectively false.
[QUOTE=Derubermensch;39088313]That being said, taxes WILL go up and the government WILL be taking more out of most Americans paychecks with the current deal. Now how does the situation seem unbalanced?[/QUOTE] I don't think "most Americans" make 400k a year, so no, it's just the wealthy types that lose their tax cut. The middle / working / poor class get to keep theirs.
Tea partiers need to separate from the GOP and form their own party so we don't ever vote for them.
[QUOTE=Lazor;39088597]what? no. this is objectively false.[/QUOTE] Did you read anything I typed besides that first sentence? [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;39088717]I don't think "most Americans" make 400k a year, so no, it's just the wealthy types that lose their tax cut. The middle / working / poor class get to keep theirs.[/QUOTE] [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/03/fiscal-cliff-deal-raises-taxes-on-77-of-americans/[/url]
[QUOTE=Derubermensch;39089018]Did you read anything I typed besides that first sentence? [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/03/fiscal-cliff-deal-raises-taxes-on-77-of-americans/[/url][/QUOTE] That's because of the payroll tax cut expiring, not because of the fiscal cliff deal.
Which were a part of the negotiations
[QUOTE=Derubermensch;39089018]Did you read anything I typed besides that first sentence? [/QUOTE] yeah, and it was all wrong. The sequester was a cut in every sense of the word except the sense that disingenuous deficit hawks like yourself like to use it. and no we aren't increasing spending by $1.7 trillion unless the GOP spontaneously dies and we decide to more than double our spending. [editline]4th January 2013[/editline] also if you're going to refer to "conventional wisdom" then according to conventional wisdom cutting your source of revenue when in debt is nonsensical.
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