• Mother at Trump rally: “Trump NEVER kicked me or my child out” - What a surprise
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[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50834807]his point is that the media can manipulate the flow of information, which would be a very powerful tool, and to act as though the media is not currently being manipulated by someone, whetherit be government or monied powers, could be dangerous.[/QUOTE] Precisely! I'm just cautioning accepting anything you hear about online or off, ask questions, try your best to get as close to the elementary particles of a report as possible.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834772]There are definitely people in the position to make subtle tonal changes to the way they report their news to create a narrative if they want. I don't know why it's so crazy to consider that [I]could[/I] occur on a large scale?[/QUOTE] I think we've bypassed the subtle tonal changes and gone straight to the media making Trump sound like he's saying discriminatory, inflammatory and highly immoral statements when in reality he's saying how much he's going to help everyone and all his wonderful ideas for dealing with the problems we face.
[QUOTE=greasemunky;50834831]I think we've bypassed the subtle tonal changes and gone straight to the media making Trump sound like he's saying discriminatory, inflammatory and highly immoral statements when in reality he's saying how much he's going to help everyone and all his wonderful in land for dealing with the problems we face.[/QUOTE] you are completely missing the point
[QUOTE=greasemunky;50834831]I think we've bypassed the subtle tonal changes and gone straight to the media making Trump sound like he's saying discriminatory, inflammatory and highly immoral statements when in reality he's saying how much he's going to help everyone and all his wonderful in land for dealing with the problems we face.[/QUOTE] What? Are you trying to imply I am saying that stuff? Or others are? I dunno, you can clearly see PEOPLE create narratives about Trump in their heads and so I'm sure if you go digging you could probably see traces of that in popular headlines. Like if people alone can claim to have seen racist campaign ads by Trump when there are literally none you gotta ask what is the limit of people's imaginations when it comes to feeling that certain way that they [I]want[/I] to feel about something. If someone's convinced themselves they hate Trump, I doubt it'll be easy to accept or hear evidence of otherwise.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834708]Definitely. The news media has a lot of power to flex if they wanted.[/QUOTE] Yeah Rupert Murdoch, the largest in the media business, fucking hates hilary. How does hilary own the media then Do you know how out of touch you sound. [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834846]What? Are you trying to imply I am saying that stuff? Or others are? I dunno, you can clearly see PEOPLE create narratives about Trump in their heads and so I'm sure if you go digging you could probably see traces of that in popular headlines.[/QUOTE] Honestly, when the majority of anti trump pieces are the things Trump says, I don't know what you want the "media" to do.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50834853]Yeah Rupert Murdoch, the largest in the media business, fucking hates hilary. How does hilary own the media then Do you know how out of touch you sound. [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] Honestly, when the majority of anti trump pieces are the things Trump says, I don't know what you want the "media" to do.[/QUOTE] The news media has a lot of power to flex if they wanted. Am I wrong?
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50834807]his point is that the media can manipulate the flow of information, which would be a very powerful tool, and to act as though the media is not currently being manipulated by someone, whetherit be government or monied powers, could be dangerous.[/QUOTE] You can be critical of media without thinking there is a large scale conspiracy going on when there is no proof for it.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50834825][url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/orlando-shooting-isis-claim-1.3632496[/url][/QUOTE] says that he was radicalized recently and that he invoked ISIS for the fame still an islamic attack, doesn't matter if he had direct connections to ISIS or not, it's still considered an ISIS link if he was inspired by propaganda online
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50834867]You can be critical of media without thinking there is a large scale conspiracy going on when there is no proof for it.[/QUOTE] But there is proof! I saw it on some shady site with zero reputation and/or breitbart.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50834867]You can be critical of media without thinking there is a large scale conspiracy going on when there is no proof for it.[/QUOTE] I didn't say there is, I said there could be. I don't trust Hillary because she's a long-time [I]career[/I] politician with lots of money and tenure under her belt. I think she'd be equipped to handle Presidency, I just don't trust her and that's the extent of my actual beliefs. She could be a Reptilian, she could just be sketchy. Whose to say? [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=greasemunky;50834883]But there is proof! I saw it on some shady site with zero reputation and/or breitbart.[/QUOTE] Why are you such a punk? Quit trying to shit on people, yo'.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834862]The news media has a lot of power to flex if they wanted. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE] You're wrong in the sense that the news media isn't all on the same page. You're wrong in the sense that you've made the blatant claim that hilary controls the media. How does she control a man who literally hates her and has made years worth of moves to attack her and keep her out of office and manufactured entire fucking controversies around her, that you bought? Yeah the media is powerful because they sold you a narrative and you've fucking bought it without even realizing it.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;50834876]says that he was radicalized recently and that he invoked ISIS for the fame still an islamic attack, doesn't matter if he had direct connections to ISIS or not, it's still considered an ISIS link if he was inspired by propaganda online[/QUOTE] it's an "isis" attack not an isis attack if i've spent very little time on /r/the_donald and then do something stupid and invoke trump's name do we really call that caused by trump
[QUOTE=DeadCow;50834601]Nothing says trustworthy president like being investigated by the FBI for treason during your campaign And being shady in general Look, Trump isn't a good candidate, by far. His stupid remarks and racism pisses me off. However, at least he isn't fucking shady like Clinton pulling sketchy shit under the table left and right. It's a lesser of two evils. [/QUOTE] Somehow the candidate that wants to default on our debt and completely destroy diplomatic relations with everyone else is the lesser evil. :what: I'll take a corrupt corporate shill over someone who could potentially wreck the country in a way we may never recover from.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834504]Wha??? Huh??? The media is misrepresenting Trump??? It's almost as if They want a certain perception pushed onto the masses....[/QUOTE] i can never tell what level of irony you're on
Also, when it comes down to Illuminati (whoever the hell mentioned that), I cannot help but to think of the Illuminati as simply the most powerful, wealthiest and generally the most [I]influential[/I] people in the world. So, who are the Illuminati then? Why, Mark Zuckerberg, the current Pope, the U.S. president, etc. Me: "Hey! You are part of the Illuminati!" Bill Gates: "Oh, I am?" Me: "Yes! You are very wealthy and influential, so therefor you classify as being part of the Illuminati, but it's not a formal organization that's all.. just a meme." Bill Gates: "Oh, right, of course."
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50834891]You're wrong in the sense that the news media isn't all on the same page. You're wrong in the sense that you've made the blatant claim that hilary controls the media. How does she control a man who literally hates her and has made years worth of moves to attack her and keep her out of office and manufactured entire fucking controversies around her, that you bought? Yeah the media is powerful because they sold you a narrative and you've fucking bought it without even realizing it.[/QUOTE] I said Hillary could be funded by the Illuminati if there is one, plus I doubt she's the "head" of the illuminati so it's not like she controls anyone rather someone controlls her. Realistically, I think money would talk louder than Rupert Murdoch anyway but I'm not super serious about the whole thing so I won't go into it.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50834892]it's an "isis" attack not an isis attack if i've spent very little time on /r/the_donald and then do something stupid and invoke trump's name do we really call that caused by trump[/QUOTE] No, silly, Trump isn't brown.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834917]I said Hillary could be funded by the Illuminati if there is one, plus I doubt she's the "head" of the illuminati so it's not like she controls anyone rather someone controlls her. Realistically, I think money would talk louder than Rupert Murdoch anyway but I'm not super serious about the whole thing so I won't go into it. [B]An[/B][/QUOTE] oh god they got him they found us run
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834917]I said Hillary could be funded by the Illuminati if there is one, plus I doubt she's the "head" of the illuminati so it's not like she controls anyone rather someone controlls her. Realistically, I think money would talk louder than Rupert Murdoch anyway but I'm not super serious about the whole thing so I won't go into it. An[/QUOTE] Good fucking god mate.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;50834907]Also, when it comes down to Illuminati (whoever the hell mentioned that), I cannot help but to think of the Illuminati as simply the most powerful, wealthiest and generally the most [I]influential[/I] people in the world. [/QUOTE] No that's exactly it. Powerful people with influence and money. The only difference here is that I don't think you'd know their names if there were such shadowforces at play, so no Popes or Zuckerbergs. [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;50834906]i can never tell what level of irony you're on[/QUOTE] I'm glad. That's my goal. I've broken the irony barrier and am just completely sincere!
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834698]I've got no proof to it, but I firmly believe that Hillary is funded by what is essentially the Illuminati, put parentheses around that if you must, whatever you wanna call Them. [/QUOTE] Yeah brother! Preach! Don't forget about the weather controlling satellites and the chemtrails employed to enslave us! /s
Even if Trump didn't kick her out, the things he said are things I don't want a president to say, even in jest
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834810]Ha, if it's actually the person that people are identifying her as then... yeah you would kind of have to trust the primary source in this case. Unless you wanna be called a TIN-FOIL HAT CRAZY MAN by some FPers lol[/QUOTE] So I should trust right wing crazy conspiracy theory blogs over mainstream media, about a Trump supporter who realized what happened is hurting the person she is voting for campaign? Yeah, I guess i'm going to vote for Trump now. It's clearly one big conspiracy, thanks for showing me the way.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;50834906]i can never tell what level of irony you're on[/QUOTE] he's just trolling SH again he'll get banned again or get bored, dw
[QUOTE=ZachPL;50834944]So I should trust right wing crazy conspiracy theory blogs over mainstream media, about a Trump supporter who realized what happened is hurting the person she is voting for campaign? [/QUOTE] No all I am saying is that if the person actually ends up being who people ID her as then she would literally be the primary source on this info. Wherever you get that in the form of a news report is secondary, as it would have their version of the situation. But if the primary source says "No, that's not what happened" it is certainly something to consider.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834955]No all I am saying is that if the person actually ends up being who people ID her as then she would literally be the primary source on this info. Wherever you get that in the form of a news report is secondary, as it would have their version of the situation. But if the primary source says "No, that's not what happened" it is certainly something to consider.[/QUOTE] trump acted like a fucking cunt on video no amount of people saying "no he wasn't a cunt" changes the fact that he was clearly being a fucking cunt
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50834892]it's an "isis" attack not an isis attack if i've spent very little time on /r/the_donald and then do something stupid and invoke trump's name do we really call that caused by trump[/QUOTE] ISIS is arguably the most effective in propaganda targeting westerners with stuff like [URL="http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/06/17/jihad-2-0/"]http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/06/17/jihad-2-0/[/URL] this is NSFL btw here's an article from wired about how effective ISIS's use of social media is to attract new recruits [URL="https://www.wired.com/2016/03/isis-winning-social-media-war-heres-beat/"]https://www.wired.com/2016/03/isis-winning-social-media-war-heres-beat/[/URL] there have been entire papers about how ISIS is using social media to spread its message Also, people do blame attacks by trump supporters on trump
[QUOTE=Luni;50834945]he's just trolling SH again he'll get banned again or get bored, dw[/QUOTE] Not quite! This section is full of so many hateful and spring-loaded antagonists that any sign of earnestness, sincerity or the single-entendre just sends people into a spiral of confusion and fits - it saddens me, directly informs my posting even.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50834980]Not quite! This section is full of so many hateful and spring-loaded antagonists[/QUOTE] You see us as hateful because what we say directly contradicts your asinine, insane beliefs?
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