[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38881446]The fuck are you even on about? If you slap a legislative ban on something, it will still continue to be in demand.
Look at fucking GTA SA.[/QUOTE]
Except we don't use video games to base real world laws on.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881516]Except we don't use video games to base real world laws on.[/QUOTE]
We used movies though, that's how switch-blades got banned.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881483]Except the number of guns in circulation would still drop, especially once the "war" got crushed in a matter of weeks.[/QUOTE]
And how would it drop? I bet many knows how to repair them and would probably keep the circulation going.
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;38881436] I figure they said "well the lock wont work if we throw away the key" and tossed that onto the list.[/QUOTE]
basically all it does is make older guns with RG adapters extremely hard to get, like SKSes. as if [I]rifle grenades[/I] have caused problems EVER
again its really just more pointless fluff so ignorant folks can pretend they are getting something done
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881516]Except we don't use video games to base real world laws on.[/QUOTE]
I THINK he was talking about San Andreas being banned somewhere and people still getting copies in other ways
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38881526]We used movies though, that's how switch-blades got banned.[/QUOTE]
Yes but him using a video game for an argument is weak.
He could have least picked a real world example.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881516]Except we don't use video games to base real world laws on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881542]Yes but him using a video game for an argument is weak.
He could have least picked a real world example.[/QUOTE]
Are you retarded
he's talking about the actual game as a product not a fucking plot point in the game
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881356]Guns are complicated pieces of machinery. If you shut down a lot of factories producing them and their spare parts, a lot of gun owners would start to face difficulties with maintaining existing guns or buying new ones.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03et8qMaPE3nb/610x.jpg[/img]
If a bunch of pakistani goat herders in the middle of nowhere can build deadly things out of scrap metal and make ammunition with basic chemicals (using hammers instead of proper presses), that whole argument goes out of the window.
It's probably already been said, but regardless of whether or not you believe in gun control, the definition of an assault weapon according to the ban is dumb.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881542]Yes but him using a video game for an argument is weak.
He could have least picked a real world example.[/QUOTE]
Semantics... Again.
There are AK-47s in use by the Taliban that are made by 10 year olds.
10
Year
Olds
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;38881552][img]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03et8qMaPE3nb/610x.jpg[/img]
If a bunch of pakistani goat herders in the middle of nowhere can build deadly things out of scrap metal and make ammunition with basic chemicals (using hammers instead of proper presses), that whole argument goes out of the window.[/QUOTE]
Possibly one of the coolest trade skills around, next to proper blade and armor blacksmithing.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881483]Except I am not contesting this? Alcohol consumption did actually drop.[/QUOTE]
Explain how this fucking matters.
Seriously.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;38856485]All you [i]ever[/i] do is selectively pick and choose facts. It makes it impossible to actually discuss anything because 95% of what you say is completely ridiculous. Then when you do invariably get called out on making some completely batshit insane generalization, you instantly back off and change your argument or change the entire focus of what you were previously talking about.[/QUOTE]
Once again you prove my words with your retarded reasoning.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881483]Except the number of guns in circulation would still drop, especially once the "war" got crushed in a matter of weeks.[/QUOTE]
I think the entire second amendment against tyrannical governments thing is stupid but really given american culture such a "war" (if sparked) would NOT be crushed in a matter of weeks.
Soldiers aren't robots... yet.
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;38881552][img]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03et8qMaPE3nb/610x.jpg[/img]
If a bunch of pakistani goat herders in the middle of nowhere can build deadly things out of scrap metal and make ammunition with basic chemicals (using hammers instead of proper presses), that whole argument goes out of the window.[/QUOTE]
Does someone have a link to the gun-forum thread where a guy constructed an entire AK for like $100, excluding the barrel?
[QUOTE=Billiam;38881584]Does someone have a link to the gun-forum thread where a guy constructed an entire AK for like $100, excluding the barrel?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning%21?p=2695046&viewfull=1#post2695046[/url]
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881395]I never knew every gun was an AK.
[editline]18th December 2012[/editline]
[B]Except most guns in the world are mass produced in factories that use standardized parts.[/B][/QUOTE]
I'm going to have to correct you on that...
[URL="http://www.scribd.com/doc/3170766/expedient-homemade-firearms-9mm-submachinegun-complete-instructions"]Expedient Homemade Firearms - 9mm Submachine Gun[/URL]
[URL="http://thehomegunsmith.com/"] The Home Gunsmith(loadsa PDFs for creating firearms/ammo[/URL])
[URL="http://biggerhammer.net/manuals/"] Bigger Hammer (thanks Raptor)[/URL]
Not to mention, several home-gunsmiths have manufactured lower/upper recievers from things like cutting boards, shovels, and otherwise.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881516]Except we don't use video games to base real world laws on.[/QUOTE]
Are you even reading my posts? Like, fully reading it?
GTA was banned for like a month, didn't matter though, it was still requested and sought after.
[QUOTE=Billiam;38881584]Does someone have a link to the gun-forum thread where a guy constructed an entire AK for like $100, excluding the barrel?[/QUOTE]
There's another one where a guy made the receiver (the outer layer that holds the guts, for those not familiar) and the bolt (main operating mechanism) for an AK.
with a shovel
[QUOTE=kimr120;38881531]And how would it drop? I bet many knows how to repair them and would probably keep the circulation going.[/QUOTE]
Because the insanely massive domestic industry would cease to exist?
[QUOTE=Billiam;38881584]Does someone have a link to the gun-forum thread where a guy constructed an entire AK for like $100, excluding the barrel?[/QUOTE]
I think the link to the guy who made an AK out of a shovel was posted here earlier
mighta been a different thread, its hard to keep track :v:
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881600]Because the insanely massive domestic industry would cease to exist?[/QUOTE]
Proof that it would cease to exist and not just go underground?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881542]Yes but him using a video game for an argument is weak.
He could have least picked a real world example.[/QUOTE]
Sobotnik Baby, were you even alive in 2005? Hot coffee man.
[QUOTE=Billiam;38881584]Does someone have a link to the gun-forum thread where a guy constructed an entire AK for like $100, excluding the barrel?[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning!?p=2695046&viewfull=1#post2695046]DEADLY ASSAULT SHOVELS[/url]
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881600]Because the insanely massive domestic industry would cease to exist?[/QUOTE]
Its not like an AR-15 just stops working after a while, and quite frankly im not understanding the notion your making.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881600]Because the insanely massive domestic industry would cease to exist?[/QUOTE]
lmao no it wouldn't, do you have ANY idea how much exporting the US firearms industry does?
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;38881552][img]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03et8qMaPE3nb/610x.jpg[/img]
If a bunch of pakistani goat herders in the middle of nowhere can build deadly things out of scrap metal and make ammunition with basic chemicals (using hammers instead of proper presses), that whole argument goes out of the window.[/QUOTE]
Yes, now please explain why every gun owner in the United States is a certified gunsmith.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;38879569]yes. get a new hobby.[/QUOTE]
No u
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881600]Because the insanely massive domestic industry would cease to exist?[/QUOTE]
It is impossible to stop. All countries make weapons and as long someone has money or are opposed to a government/group that the manufacturer or country hates so will it continue.
You cannot stop the immense power supporting the manufacturing of weapons.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38881600]Because the insanely massive domestic industry would cease to exist?[/QUOTE]
No it wouldn't. Massive enterprises don't just sweep away overnight.
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