[QUOTE=zydos;38898279]Hey look, a black kid walking down the street with his hood up. Quick, I better follow him and call the cops. Oh no, he was scared because I approached him, good thing I have a gun on me and I'm more afraid of him than he is of me, I better kill him to make sure he doesn't try to flee or yell for help[/QUOTE]
Holy shit we have found the densest element.
[QUOTE=zydos;38898279]Hey look, a black kid walking down the street with his hood up. Quick, I better follow him and call the cops. Oh no, he was scared because I approached him, good thing I have a gun on me and I'm more afraid of him than he is of me, I better kill him to make sure he doesn't try to flee or yell for help[/QUOTE]
That's more an issue with CCW and concealable handguns than "assault weapons."
Admittedly I'm on the ledge about gun restrictions, but as somebody who has a textbook interest in firearms I can tell you that "assault weapon" legislation is literally the stupidest, most kneejerk, most mind-bogglingly ignorant piece of firearms legislation to grace the face of the planet.
You don't need to own a gun to realize how utterly ridiculous this legislation is. The classifications of "assault weapons" are completely cosmetic, are not based on any crime statistics whatsoever and really serve no practical purpose. I agree with the concept of various and strict forms of firearm restrictions, but at the very least any presented legislation should be created by educated and informed individuals, and should be based on facts rather than kneejerk irrational fears about scary-looking guns.
[QUOTE=zydos;38898279]Hey look, a black kid walking down the street with his hood up. Quick, I better follow him and call the cops. Oh no, he was scared because I approached him, good thing I have a gun on me and I'm more afraid of him than he is of me, I better kill him to make sure he doesn't try to flee or yell for help[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=zydos;38898302]see: majority of Americans portrayed on television with 30 guns in their home "incase spooks try to break in". Because losing my TV is muuuch more severe than killing somebody[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=zydos;38898365]Yes and it was all gibberish consisting of "no don't take away my guns I need them for absolutely arbitrary reasons and killing other humans"[/QUOTE]
You're an ignorant person.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;38898346]bazooper i just played vicky ii and achtung panzer operation star obv im literate about gun culture because of the entertainment mediums i enjoy not the ones im aware of omg..[/QUOTE]
you too lack first-grade reading comprehension
[QUOTE=zydos;38898365]Yes and it was all gibberish consisting of "no don't take away my guns I need them for absolutely arbitrary reasons and killing other humans"[/QUOTE]
I have an assault rifle because I enjoy shooting at the range with friends and I find it a fun and occupying hobby.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;38898415]You're an ignorant person.[/QUOTE]
He's completely correct; the fact that we, as a society, think lethal force is justified to protect property is fucking crazy.
[QUOTE=zydos;38898365]Yes and it was all gibberish consisting of "no don't take away my guns I need them for absolutely arbitrary reasons and killing other humans"[/QUOTE]
I think you need to see a head doctor, because I said that I bought my gun for purposes other than self defense and "murdering"
[QUOTE=Mbbird;38898415]You're an ignorant person.[/QUOTE]
[B]edit fixed[/B]
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/23/AR2007032301613.html[/url]
heyo buddy boy read this thank you
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38898449]He's completely correct; the fact that we, as a society, think lethal force is justified to protect property is fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]
Not really. If someone breaks into your house, are you going to reach for a weapon or let them just rummage about while you tell them to stop stealing your things?
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38898449]He's completely correct; the fact that we, as a society, think lethal force is justified to protect property is fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]
Not all gun owners own guns for self protection. I never want to fire my gun at anyone. I own my gun because I like shooting (at targets).
[editline]19th December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ownederd;38898492][url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...032301613.html[/url]
heyo buddy boy read this thank you[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=zydos;38898279]Hey look, a black kid walking down the street with his hood up. Quick, I better follow him and call the cops. Oh no, he was scared because I approached him, good thing I have a gun on me and I'm more afraid of him than he is of me, I better kill him to make sure he doesn't try to flee or yell for help[/QUOTE]
You sure have some sick fantasies.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38898449]He's completely correct; the fact that we, as a society, think lethal force is justified to protect property is fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]
[B]Deterrence[/B]
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38898507]Not really. If someone breaks into your house, are you going to reach for a weapon or let them just rummage about while you tell them to stop stealing your things?[/QUOTE]
A good percentage of people on this forum would in fact let them rummage about. This point of conversation has come up many times.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38898449]He's completely correct; the fact that we, as a society, think lethal force is justified to protect property is fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]
You're displaying the same bit of ignorance with a more level head. The idea isn't to protect your shit. It's to protect yourself. That kind of person also just happens to like guns; there's nothing wrong with that part.
So you have a killing-machine just to have fun with it? Sounds pretty cool man
[QUOTE=Mbbird;38898540]You're displaying the same bit of ignorance with a more level head. The idea isn't to protect your shit. It's to protect yourself.[/QUOTE]
stop arguing pendatics - you don't have to guess that he's inferring that some people go too far with their idea of defense
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38898449]He's completely correct; the fact that we, as a society, think lethal force is justified to protect property is fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]
A light shining in the darkness. This is what it's all about, guys. You don't need to splatter somebody's brains all over the wall because they called you a faggot or are stealing your TV
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38898449]He's completely correct; the fact that we, as a society, think lethal force is justified to protect property is fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about you, but most people don't own guns here to protect their property, they own them to protect their lives in case they need to.
[QUOTE=zydos;38898541]So you have a killing-machine just to have fun with it? Sounds pretty cool man[/QUOTE]
Oh my god how stupid can you get?
I don't think you need an AK-74 to defend your house but thats just me.
You could get like a shotgun or something.
[QUOTE=zydos;38898541]So you have a killing-machine just to have fun with it? Sounds pretty cool man[/QUOTE]
Let me guess, NDP and you've never even seen, let alone fired a gun in your entire life? You are the epitome of ignorance, please shut up.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;38898540]You're displaying the same bit of ignorance with a more level head. The idea isn't to protect your shit. It's to protect yourself. That kind of person also just happens to like guns; there's nothing wrong with that part.[/QUOTE]
"Hey you! I'm going to beat you up!"
Do you:
A) shoot me
B) walk away and ignore my shenanigans
C) fight with honor
At this rate, A.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38898576]Let me guess, NDP and you've never even seen, let alone fired a gun in your entire life? You are the epitome of ignorance, please shut up.[/QUOTE]
Liberal, fired plenty and own only one, Winchester 1884 centennial edition. I use it to hunt when I'm in the backwoods.
[QUOTE=zombojoe;38898573]I don't think you need an AK-74 to defend your house but thats just me.
You could get like a shotgun or something.[/QUOTE]
Well you wouldn't want to rob a man with a shotgun, but you [I]really[/I] wouldn't want to rob the man with an AK.
[QUOTE=zombojoe;38898590]At this rate, A.[/QUOTE]
Therein lies the problem. Somebody has a different opinion and is vocal about it, I'd rather shoot him because he annoys me
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38898576]Let me guess, NDP and you've never even seen, let alone fired a gun in your entire life? You are the epitome of ignorance, please shut up.[/QUOTE]
what does the fact that he has (you're guessing) never discharged a firearm in his life have to do with anything
[QUOTE=zombojoe;38898573]I don't think you need an AK-74 to defend your house but thats just me.
You could get like a shotgun or something.[/QUOTE]
A shotgun would cause more damage
[QUOTE=zydos;38898582]"Hey you! I'm going to beat you up!"
Do you:
A) shoot me
B) walk away and ignore my shenanigans
C) fight with honor[/QUOTE]
D) Draw my weapon and give the man a little motivation to reconsider his life choices.
You guys act like there's some HUGE distinction between civilian and military firearms. The only REAL difference is military ones are sometimes full-auto, but those are already pretty much banned. A LOT of military weapons fire rounds commonly used on the civilian market.
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