[QUOTE=zydos;38898869]
Am I? I'm just using a weapon for fun, like tons of people do. That makes it ok![/QUOTE]
Because there's a [b]BIG[/b] difference between a semi-automatic rifle or handgun and a fucking nuclear warhead.
[QUOTE=zydos;38898869]Am I? I'm just using a weapon for fun, like tons of people do. That makes it ok![/QUOTE]
You're completely deluded if you can't see the problem with your hypothetical.
[QUOTE=zydos;38898841]Quantum leap: I'm using ICBM's to blow up holes in my lawn, but it's okay because I know nuke-safety[/QUOTE]
please get out
[QUOTE=zydos;38898869]but I'm not going to fucking kill them, like many people south of the border would do without a second thought (Bang I shot him now he'll leave!)[/QUOTE]
And you can guarantee you won't kill them by hitting them with a bat in the face?
[QUOTE=zydos;38898564]A light shining in the darkness. This is what it's all about, guys. You don't need to splatter somebody's brains all over the wall [B]because they called you a faggot or are stealing your TV[/B][/QUOTE]
Thats not what people are saying, they would use lethal force to defend THEMSELVES from the intruder, not their shit.
If I tell some guy to "Get out, I have a gun" Im not gonna shoot them in the back if they make off with my DVD player
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oh shit I missed a few pages
Say it with me: [B]deterrence[/B]
[editline]19th December 2012[/editline]
not execution
[QUOTE=Call Me Kiwi;38898793]I assume he meant that you're using things designed to kill for entertainment, and it shouldn't be that way. You should be using the weapon as such and not as a way to kill time.[/QUOTE]
knives were originally intended to be covert murder weapons, you'd have to be some kind of autistic mongoloid psychopath to own one, right guys?
[QUOTE=zydos;38898694]I don't use it to have fun. Shooting and killing things is not fun, it's dangerous, hence why I use it for hunting and hunting alone. Insert clip of guy shooting a .50cal and the bullet ricocheting back, knocking his earmuffs off. He almost blew his brains because he was having 'fun'. Fucking idiot
No, I'm Canadian, thanks for playing though
I don't need this gun though, I could use a bow, and I have on occasion[/QUOTE]
I'm Canadian too, hence why I said that. Fudds like you are why this nation's gun laws are so cocked up right now. And the idiots who push for gun control here are also pushing to ban hunting of all kinds, hell to them your bow is less humane than your gun.
Shooting at the range is fun, and it's a challenge. It's a competition with yourself to hit as close to the centre as possible, and it's a locale to meet plenty of like-minded people and a great place for window shopping. The guy who shot the .50 had it ricochet because he hit a rock, because he wasn't properly aware of his backstop. It was an absolute fluke, and if that's your justification for not going to the range then you should give up driving because you have a greater chance of being killed behind the wheel of a car in a fluke mechanical failure than from a ricochet on a range. Shooting sports are an Olympic sanctioned activity, so I guess all the athletes who spend years on the range must all be fucking idiots because they could be killed by their .32 ricocheting off the backstop. I guess all the people who compete in 3-gun and service rifle shoots must be idiots too, how could they spend a day and expend roughly 1000 rounds of ammo on the range when they could be killed by a ricochet! And then the people involved in IPSC who use handguns, oh the humanity!
Not to forget all the "animal rights" activists who will directly equate your killing of an animal to the killing of a human, and the fact that my guns at the range have never killed anything. Those same activists, as I mentioned, will think you're an even worse person for using a bow, because it doesn't immediately kill the animal as often as a bullet, making it "inhumane." Meanwhile, the CFGC will be calling for a ban on all repeating or magazine-fed firearms because "it only takes one shot to kill an animal anyways," so they want your Winchester destroyed as well, and will call you just as much of a deranged psycho as someone who owns an AR-15. Britain is a prime example of this.
And then there's all the semi-auto shotguns in common usage across Canada for duck and geese hunting, but I guess because people want a fast follow-up shot on the flock flying overhead they must be deranged serial-killers-in-waiting because they use a semi-automatic.
It's people like you, so willing to throw other gun owners under the bus because this time you get to keep your one gun, that are the biggest problem when it comes to gun control. You spout ignorance about a different kind of gun, ignoring the fact that your gun is just as dangerous, and as hated, as the ones you seem to hate. To claim that range shooting is dangerous is the epitome of stupidity and ignorance, more people die in Canada in hunting accidents every year than who have EVER died at a shooting range. A gun range is one of the safest places in the country, second only to a police station.
[QUOTE=Apache249;38898760]This is what he's talking about.
[video=youtube;0ABGIJwiGBc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc[/video]
[editline]19th December 2012[/editline]
Not sure...[/QUOTE]
how the hell did that happen, what ricocheted off of where?
[QUOTE=Apache249;38898938]Say it with me: [B]deterrence[/B]
[editline]19th December 2012[/editline]
not execution[/QUOTE]
I thought it was this whole 2nd amendment crap?
[QUOTE=zydos;38898815]That multiple-choice exam was based on somebody on the street calling you out, but okay let's play
zydos' remedy: Hears door get busted open late at night, grabs baseball bat in his room, waits for intruder to pass by and slugs him in the face before he gets the chance to even see the zydos, beats his ass until he either scampers out of the house, is unconscious, or worse. I'm not going to wait for all that bullshit to happen, or cheat by just shooting him in the face[/QUOTE]
That's an incredibly optimistic analysis of the situation. Best case scenario you hit him and that happens, worst case scenario you don't swing fast enough, he backs up, and you get shot up because you didn't want to kill the poor helpless robber.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;38898967]I thought it was this whole 2nd amendment crap?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what you're saying.
I personally think banning guns will not do much. If someone has bad intentions and wants to harm someone they will find someway. Bad apples will always find a way
[QUOTE=cccritical;38898943]knives were originally intended to be covert murder weapons, you'd have to be some kind of autistic mongoloid psychopath to own one, right guys?[/QUOTE]
And what have knives become now, tools that get daily use be it in a multi-tool or on your dinner table or still used for hunting if you're so inclined.
All guns have become are more efficient killing machines.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;38898969]That's an incredibly optimistic analysis of the situation. Best case scenario you hit him and that happens, worst case scenario you don't swing fast enough, he backs up, and you get shot up because you didn't want to kill the poor helpless robber.[/QUOTE]
C'est la vie
Forgetting entirely that this is completely irrelevant, and more on the topic of "BAN ALL GUNS BECAUSE THEY'RE BAD" that we've already decidedly announced is completely irrational and implausible, and less on the topic of banning particular weapons from the legal market.
Zydos, why do you think it is okay to shoot at animals but not at things that [b]ARE NOT LIVING[/b]?
"Wah wah wah don't take away my guns"
"Okay we won't"
You realize this won't pass, right?
[QUOTE=zydos;38898998]C'est la vie[/QUOTE]
non, c'est la vie pour toi, pour les imbéciles.
On ne peut pas avoir "la vie" si on est mort.
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;38899003]Zydos, why do you think it is okay to shoot at animals but not at things that [b]ARE NOT LIVING[/b]?[/QUOTE]
My opinion on it is that if you do that you're taking it too lightly.
[QUOTE=Call Me Kiwi;38898994]
All guns have become are more efficient killing machines.[/QUOTE]
Except for target guns that were never meant to kill anything.
[QUOTE=zydos;38898694]I don't use it to have fun. Shooting and killing things is not fun, it's dangerous, hence why I use it for hunting and hunting alone. Insert clip of guy shooting a .50cal and the bullet ricocheting back, knocking his earmuffs off. He almost blew his brains because he was having 'fun'. Fucking idiot[/QUOTE]
I sort of doubt you learned to shoot without doing some sort of target practice
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;38899003]Zydos, why do you think it is okay to shoot at animals but not at things that [b]ARE NOT LIVING[/b]?[/QUOTE]
Because he's a fucking psychopath.
[QUOTE=zydos;38898694]No, I'm Canadian, thanks for playing though
I don't need this gun though, I could use a bow, and I have on occasion
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Coming from somebody who owns a lot of bows and crossbows (me) I frankly can't draw a distinction in why you'd think bows and/or crossbows are any safer than "assault weapons." Most people would likely be able to figure out how to use a bow before they can figure out how to operate a firearm, and it only takes a bow with a measly 10# of draw force in order to pierce human flesh. Bows are weapons. You don't need to own a bow any more than you need to own a firearm.
[QUOTE=Call Me Kiwi;38898994]And what have knives become now, tools that get daily use be it in a multi-tool or on your dinner table or still used for hunting if you're so inclined.
All guns have become are more efficient killing machines.[/QUOTE]
It depends on what you choose to do with them. I don't want to shoot any living thing with my gun, but I guess since I have a gun I am a killer despite not wanting to kill anything (not even animals)
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;38899046]I sort of doubt you learned to shoot without doing some sort of target practice[/QUOTE]
I didn't do it for fun when I'm with the boys having a few beers, I did it to familiarize myself with my weapon so I could use it for it's intended purpose
[QUOTE=Call Me Kiwi;38899035]My opinion on it is that if you do that you're taking it too lightly.[/QUOTE]
What are you even saying?
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;38899054]Coming from somebody who owns a lot of bows and crossbows (me) I frankly can't draw a distinction in why you'd think bows and/or crossbows are any safer than "assault weapons." Most people would likely be able to figure out how to use a bow before they can figure out how to operate a firearm, and it only takes a bow with a measly 10# of draw force in order to pierce human flesh. Bows are weapons. You don't need to own a bow any more than you need to own a firearm.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't there a massacre committed just a few weeks prior to this where a kid killed 3 people in his school with a long bow?
[QUOTE=Call Me Kiwi;38898994]And what have knives become now, tools that get daily use be it in a multi-tool or on your dinner table or still used for hunting if you're so inclined.
All guns have become are more efficient killing machines.[/QUOTE]
Guns have become a sporting tool and a vital tool for feeding families, both in remote wilderness areas and in the city, and save people thousands of dollars on food bills every year, as well as teach people important survival skills, respect, and safety. Guns have become the basis for a series of sports as popular individually as any other the world over, and have become an important part of Olympic competitions, with the Olympics having over 10 events sanctioned that involve the use of guns. They've evolved past "efficient killing machines" as well, though being able to efficiently and effectively kill an animal is why semi-automatics are becoming more popular in hunting, a faster follow-up shot and a quicker second chance if you miss, and especially in waterfowl hunting they provide the opportunity to get another bird, meaning more food for your family.
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