• Obama to ban assault weapons.
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFfWYYCfCZI&feature=player_detailpage#t=95s[/media] Here, because he can't do it himself
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;38902178]lets outlaw alcohol, actually.[/QUOTE] once again, you support completely banning something because some people use it irresponsibly. que ridiculo
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;38902158]i'll concede that it would be impossible to get rid of all guns entirely, so i'll talk to you now. the federal license you speak of should be needed to buy bolt, lever, and pump action hunting rifles and shotguns, and semi-auto and full-auto firearms should be disallowed entirely.[/QUOTE] uh someone crazy will still go into a school with a hunting rifle and start shooting.
[QUOTE=zydos;38902133]You shouldn't own the things you do [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFfWYYCfCZI&feature=player_detailpage#t=95s"]because Hank says so[/URL]. I've been speaking my mind but nobody likes to actually think about the dangers associated with guns, so here's Hank[/QUOTE] And gun control doesn't stop violence because [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mha9JsHwvwA]Dr. Caillin Langmann, of McMaster University, says so,[/url] in Canada's only peer-reviewed scientific study on the effects of the Firearms Act and everything therein contained. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mha9JsHwvwA[/media]
[QUOTE=zydos;38902181]See, you could just click the link instead of digging yourself a hole :D[/QUOTE] It won't be any deeper than yours, I assure you.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38902130]Also, GM Inland Division M1 Carbines.[/QUOTE] M1 Carbines were also made by Saginaw Steering Gear, Rock-Ola jukebox manufacturer, National Postal Meter and even IBM!
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38902175]but why? 20 bullets isn't going to kill you any deader than 1 bullet[/QUOTE] 20 bullets could kill 20 people though
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;38902178]lets outlaw alcohol, actually.[/QUOTE] let me know how that works out for you
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[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;38902199]20 bullets could kill 20 people though[/QUOTE] if i got 20 people to line up perfectly, i could kill them all with 1 boolet thats not even an argument
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;38902121]a. you're right, america's violence problem isn't rooted in guns. its gun violence problem is, however.[/QUOTE] Circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because
[QUOTE=Ridge;38902195]M1 Carbines were also made by Saginaw Steering Gear, Rock-Ola jukebox manufacturer, National Postal Meter and even IBM![/QUOTE] My uncle has one made by Rock-Ola
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;38902208]if i got 20 people to line up perfectly, i could kill them all with 1 boolet thats not even an argument[/QUOTE] neither is that so why did you post it [editline]20th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Zephyrs;38902218]Circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because[/QUOTE] that's nice.
[QUOTE=zydos;38902133]You shouldn't own the things you do [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFfWYYCfCZI&feature=player_detailpage#t=95s"]because Hank says so[/URL]. I've been speaking my mind but nobody likes to actually think about the dangers associated with guns, so here's Hank[/QUOTE] Then try to ban [i]all[/i] guns or limit their availability, don't go banning just [i]some[/i] guns because of how threatening they look. That's what this whole ban is about! It's not about banning all semi-autos, it's about banning [i]threatening-looking semi-autos[/i]. I don't like the idea of banning all semi-autos, but if you want to go the route you want to go down, at least go all the way.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;38902220]neither is that so why did you post it[/QUOTE] Because I was being a smart ass over how retarded that argument was
[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;38902191]uh someone crazy will still go into a school with a hunting rifle and start shooting.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting[/URL] Student kills 2 and wounds 7 with a lever action cowboy gun [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/gaVfil.jpg[/IMG] And was going to his car to shoot up a second school in the area when an assistant principle ran out to his car and got his 1911 (used by the US military from 1911 until the 1970s), which he used to stop the student until police arrived. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Q44cul.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38902194]It won't be any deeper than yours, I assure you.[/QUOTE] Actually it completely explains my entire point, but big mister swag can't handle the truth, so let me just type out the facts. 75% of handgun owners have them for self-defense, yet they are 3x more at risk of being involved in a homicide than homes without guns, and 5x more at risk of gun-suicide. People who had a gun were 4x more likely to be shot during an assault than those who didn't have them on them. Highest gun-fatality rate in the world. 35x higher gun violence rate in the 15-24yrs age range than any other country in the world Your stances on guns are why so many people are killed by them each year
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;38902220]that's nice.[/QUOTE] Are you truly oblivious to your use of basic logical fallacies in that sentence?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;38902229]Because I was being a smart ass over how retarded that argument was[/QUOTE] no see if i had a crowd of people i could spray 20 bullets into them and say that i might kill them all if i had a crowd of people could shoot bullet into them and kill at most a handful. [editline]20th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Zephyrs;38902245]Are you truly oblivious to your use of basic logical fallacies in that sentence?[/QUOTE] america does have a general violence problem, and removing guns won't solve it. fine. america does have a huge gun violence problem, huger than any other 1st world country, and removing guns would stop it. you can't argue that removing guns wouldn't end gun violence lol
[QUOTE=zydos;38902243]Actually it completely explains my entire point, but big mister swag can't handle the truth, so let me just type out the facts. 75% of handgun owners have them for self-defense, yet they are 3x more at risk of being involved in a homicide than homes without guns, and 5x more at risk of gun-suicide. People who had a gun were 4x more likely to be shot during an assault than those who didn't have them on them. Highest gun-fatality rate in the world. 35x higher gun violence rate in the 15-24yrs age range than any other country in the world Your stances on guns are why so many people are killed by them each year[/QUOTE] Could I have a source on that?
American Academy* of Pediatrics, yeah. Google the study [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFfWYYCfCZI&feature=player_detailpage#t=95s"]and the video I linked, dummy~[/URL]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38902261]Could I have a source on that?[/QUOTE] lol
[QUOTE=zydos;38902243]Actually it completely explains my entire point, but big mister swag can't handle the truth, so let me just type out the facts. 75% of handgun owners have them for self-defense, yet they are 3x more at risk of being involved in a homicide than homes without guns, and 5x more at risk of gun-suicide. People who had a gun were 4x more likely to be shot during an assault than those who didn't have them on them. Highest gun-fatality rate in the world. [B]35x higher gun violence rate in the 15-24yrs age range than any other [/B]country in the world Your stances on guns are why so many people are killed by them each year[/QUOTE] Really hesitant to accept those bolded points. Somalia exists, you know.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;38902248]no see if i had a crowd of people i could spray 20 bullets into them and say that i might kill them all if i had a crowd of people could shoot bullet into them and kill at most a handful. [editline]20th December 2012[/editline] america does have a general violence problem, and removing guns won't solve it. fine. america does have a huge gun violence problem, huger than any other 1st world country, and removing guns would stop it. you can't argue that removing guns wouldn't end gun violence lol[/QUOTE] Sure, removing guns would stop gun violence -- if banning them removed them. It won't; people who use guns illegally don't care that it's illegal to use them in that way. [B]That is what makes them criminals.[/B]
So does America. Ask the AAP yourselves
[QUOTE=zydos;38902269]American Academy* of Pediatrics, yeah. [B]Google the study[/B][/QUOTE] Yeah, no.
[QUOTE=zydos;38902243]Actually it completely explains my entire point, but big mister swag can't handle the truth, so let me just type out the facts. 75% of handgun owners have them for self-defense, yet they are 3x more at risk of being involved in a homicide than homes without guns, and 5x more at risk of gun-suicide. People who had a gun were 4x more likely to be shot during an assault than those who didn't have them on them. Highest gun-fatality rate in the world. 35x higher gun violence rate in the 15-24yrs age range than any other country in the world Your stances on guns are why so many people are killed by them each year[/QUOTE] And yet, if you watch my video, you'll see that gun control has done nothing to stop people from being killed in Canada. Also, here's Chuck Woolery on "assault rifles": [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=evEg1VNfX3o[/url]
[QUOTE=zydos;38902133]You shouldn't own the things you do [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFfWYYCfCZI&feature=player_detailpage#t=95s"]because Hank says so[/URL]. I've been speaking my mind but nobody likes to actually think about the dangers associated with guns, so here's Hank[/QUOTE] households with firearms are more likely to experience a homicide because families in high crime areas tend to arm themselves suicide is independent of gun ownership, without guns people will do it with drugs or by other means I've never seen evidence of armed civilians being more likely to be shot during an assault and still looking now I can't find that information highest gun crime fatality rate is what you should be looking at the young age range thing is about gang violence and outlawing guns will not stop gangs from getting them. look at detroit for example where guns are generally outright* banned but still has one of the highest gun fatality rates of any city due to the high gang population you're a fucking retard
"the most reliable predictor of gun violence is the presence of guns" i mean what more do you want
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;38902273]lol[/QUOTE] We have funny ratings for that. The same way we have dumb ratings...
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