• Obama to ban assault weapons.
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[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38903139]Yet you guys in your counter-arguments appeared severely master raceish? "He doesn't like guns, quick, shit on him". Again, I missed out so I'm only reporting on what I'm reading Canada :D Secret secret, Paul McCartney is actually Canadian, but when he died in the carcrash they replaced him with a brit so they could knight him[/QUOTE] No, the reason we were on him with aggressive counter-points, and why some insults were thrown, is because he came in with a huge air of arrogance about his opinion about him, and insisted he was right and we were all wrong for owning something, because even though we're all responsible with it, it [i]could[/i] be misused, so therefore we shouldn't be allowed to responsibly own them. He also ignored one of the 2 main reasons for owning a gun, range shooting, claiming it was dangerous because of one likely staged video he watched. He spent his entire time arguing being rather condescending and derogatory in his statements, asking us to take an "open mind" while ignoring anything we were saying in a massive show of hypocrisy, as well as claiming to own a gun and still insulting gun owners and guns.
While we're all talking about guns, [URL="http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/top_break_no3_2nd_5_lg.jpg"]five inch[/URL] or [URL="http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/top_break_no3_2nd_pearl_nickel_lg.jpg"]seven inch[/URL]? I'd like the seven inch because it comes nickel-plated, but laws here are shifty around handgun barrel-length
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38903175]I'm with him in that we should watch who we sell guns to more closely, but banning them all together is a bit much. I'm in the market for an Ubitex Schofield Model 3, the 5", but I need to take my restricted-weapon's test to get it. At least up here it's sort of okay, guns are quite hard to "come by" unless you know where to get them[/QUOTE] Since you know where to get them, I have a question for you; do you know where I can find a working howitzer? I'm pretty sure that's "restricted". :v: [sp]I'm not serious, although I would love to have one.[/sp]
because, like, at the rate this country is going we have like 5-6 years before all 300 million people have been mass murdered and then the issue becomes moot so lets get to work on these new laws, friends
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38903193]No, the reason we were on him with aggressive counter-points, and why some insults were thrown, is because he came in with a huge air of arrogance about his opinion about him, and insisted he was right and we were all wrong for owning something, because even though we're all responsible with it, it [i]could[/i] be misused, so therefore we shouldn't be allowed to responsibly own them. He also ignored one of the 2 main reasons for owning a gun, range shooting, claiming it was dangerous because of one likely staged video he watched. He spent his entire time arguing being rather condescending and derogatory in his statements, asking us to take an "open mind" while ignoring anything we were saying in a massive show of hypocrisy, as well as claiming to own a gun and still insulting gun owners and guns.[/QUOTE] But you guys didn't take into account that guns really [I]are[/I] fucking dangerous. I admit he may have been a bit overboard, but what I gathered from his argument is that they should crack down on who can have guns, because they're far too widely available at this point
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38903194]While we're all talking about guns, [URL="http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/top_break_no3_2nd_5_lg.jpg"]five inch[/URL] or [URL="http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/top_break_no3_2nd_pearl_nickel_lg.jpg"]seven inch[/URL]? I'd like the seven inch because it comes nickel-plated, but laws here are shifty around handgun barrel-length[/QUOTE] The seven inch seems a little ridiculous as far as length, and the five inch looks sexy. That said, I'm not much of a nickel-plating fan, and I like the darker colors. :v:
and there are too many accidents that could have been avoided if more care were taken
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38903179]"lets ban implements of mass murder, whatever they are" seems pretty sensible to me. like what is and isnt an implement of mass murder is definitely up for debate but arguing against the definition of one sort of implement based on really pedantic hair-splitting seems sort of less sensible??[/QUOTE] we should definitely ban all cbrn weapons but honestly I don't think any human should be trusted with those. other than that pretty much everything is great for sports shooting
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38903201]because, like, at the rate this country is going we have like 5-6 years before all 300 million people have been mass murdered and then the issue becomes moot so lets get to work on these new laws, friends[/QUOTE] Come on, now that's not fair.
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;38903208]The seven inch seems a little ridiculous as far as length, and the five inch looks sexy. That said, I'm not much of a nickel-plating fan, and I like the darker colors. :v:[/QUOTE] Fair enough, but part of me always wishes for the day some scumbag tries to mug me "Give me your wallet" As I whip out a 7" nickel-plated revolver like that "Give me [I]your[/I] wallet, fucker!" That tingly feeling in your balls when you feel like a badass
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38903223]Fair enough, but part of me always wishes for the day some scumbag tries to mug me "Give me your wallet" As I whip out a 7" nickel-plated revolver like that "Give me [I]your[/I] wallet, fucker!" That tingly feeling in your balls when you feel like a badass[/QUOTE] If you have the money and the means, you could also get both and wield them akimbo when getting mugged. After all, at point blank range, you won't miss. :v:
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38903149]But yours were just as rooted in opinion until the study-posting came into play? You guys didn't treat him with respect from the get-go, I'm not surprised all this happened.[/QUOTE] Because he didn't treat us with respect either. I'm not one to often use the term "idiot" in an argument because I don't like insulting people, but with the kind of ridiculous, blatantly false, condescending, and rude things he was saying, as well as the sweeping insulting generalizations, and blatantly intolerance it just pissed me off.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38903223]Fair enough, but part of me always wishes for the day some scumbag tries to mug me "Give me your wallet" As I whip out a 7" nickel-plated revolver like that "Give me [I]your[/I] wallet, fucker!" That tingly feeling in your balls when you feel like a badass[/QUOTE] *This post does not represent the views of the majority of firearms owners.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38903212]we should definitely ban all cbrn weapons but honestly I don't think any human should be trusted with those. other than that pretty much everything is great for sports shooting[/QUOTE] i dont think sport shooting is a legitimate use because anything can be made into a sport. you could do that thing they do at fairs where you toss hackeysacks into holes cut in plywood boards but with grenades and that would be a totally legitimate sport and also totally not a good basis to legalize private ownership of fragmentation grenades
Jesus christ my uncle just came back from Las Vegas with a video of him shooting a pre-1986 MP5 auto I jelly ;-; @PaulMcCartney definitely the 7 inch IMO given that the handgun barrel legnth laws are sketchy you say, longer barrel=less bitching from government
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38903201]because, like, at the rate this country is going we have like 5-6 years before all 300 million people have been mass murdered and then the issue becomes moot so lets get to work on these new laws, friends[/QUOTE] cool, you can have my gun when they ban all violent video games.
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;38903229]If you have the money and the means, you could also get both and wield them akimbo when getting mugged. After all, at point blank range, you won't miss. :v:[/QUOTE] while you're at it, get 4! instead of reloading, just throw the guns to the ground and pull out a new one or you can even keep increasing in even numbers for even more reloads
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38903234]i dont think sport shooting is a legitimate use because anything can be made into a sport. you could do that thing they do at fairs where you toss hackeysacks into holes cut in plywood boards but with grenades and that would be a totally legitimate sport and also totally not a good basis to legalize private ownership of fragmentation grenades[/QUOTE] You can own frag grenades in the US though. Granted, they have holes drilled in the bottom and all of the explodey bitz are removed, but you get the point. :v:
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;38903242]cool, you can have my gun when they ban all violent video games.[/QUOTE] cool, thanks? can i also have your horse? is that where this non sequitur is going?
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;38903247]You can own frag grenades in the US though. Granted, they have holes drilled in the bottom and all of the explodey bitz are removed, but you get the point. :v:[/QUOTE] You can own real ones you just pay a $200 premium on each and it gets to the point where its silly
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38903234]i dont think sport shooting is a legitimate use because anything can be made into a sport. you could do that thing they do at fairs where you toss hackeysacks into holes cut in plywood boards but with grenades and that would be a totally legitimate sport and also totally not a good basis to legalize private ownership of fragmentation grenades[/QUOTE] that sounds legitimately fun and something I could get into what the fuck are you talking about it's not like fragmentation grenades are any more deadly than $5 worth of parts to make a pipe bomb anyway
are they also going to ban being a cool and sexy guy because then you definitely have my attention
Well I might just end up getting the 7". My mother's maiden name is Schofield, so since I discovered this thing, I've been infatuated. All in all, let's just get along and forget about all this nonsense. Imma send him an email (I know, right? Email!) and see if I can get something out of him
[QUOTE=Aman VII;38903253]You can own real ones you just pay a $200 premium on each and it gets to the point where its silly[/QUOTE] Really? Time for me to develop the shortest juggling act. :v:
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38903234]i dont think sport shooting is a legitimate use because anything can be made into a sport. you could do that thing they do at fairs where you toss hackeysacks into holes cut in plywood boards but with grenades and that would be a totally legitimate sport and also totally not a good basis to legalize private ownership of fragmentation grenades[/QUOTE] true, but you see, guns are actually practical for other things than killing people and sport.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38903258]that sounds legitimately fun and something I could get into what the fuck are you talking about it's not like fragmentation grenades are any more deadly than $5 worth of parts to make a pipe bomb anyway[/QUOTE] there doesn't have to be a difference if you accept the premise that being able to blow people up is bad then the availability of basement jury-rigged alternatives shouldn't discourage you from being opposed to the legitimate sale of explosive devices
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38903265]Well I might just end up getting the 7". My mother's maiden name is Schofield, so since I discovered this thing, I've been infatuated. All in all, let's just get along and forget about all this nonsense. Imma send him an email (I know, right? Email!) and see if I can get something out of him[/QUOTE] You know, we may not always get along in the sensationalist headlines forum, but we're not bad people (well, not all of us). That's actually one of the things I've noticed here on facepunch. Regardless of all the divisive topics and opinions that are argued here, there is usually something that can unite the 2 sides in a common interest. That said, I think that's the same everywhere, but the fact remains. :smile: [editline]20th December 2012[/editline] If anyone's interested in backyard pyrotechnics, I happen to know how to make a pipebomb. :v:
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;38903284]there doesn't have to be a difference if you accept the premise that being able to blow people up is bad then the availability of basement jury-rigged alternatives shouldn't discourage you from being opposed to the legitimate sale of explosive devices[/QUOTE] you don't have to blow up people, you can blow up dirt or washing machines or sheds or old junker cars grenades can be a lot of fun
[QUOTE=BFG9000;38903275]true, but you see, guns are actually practical for other things than killing people and sport.[/QUOTE] 1. hunting 2. safe disposal of war materiel like one would find in uhhh denton texas? 3. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGZbsn-u_dM[/media]
Well he and I like rock n' roll, so we share that :v: Seems hard to find common ground on here sometimes
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