• EA Pulls Crysis 2 From Steam Store
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[QUOTE=Antdawg;30467605]Take it up the ass? Good argument there, resorting to homosexual implications because you couldn't think of anything more coherent.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=johan_sm;30467609]Oh god his opinion is different than mine, he probably takes it in the ass.[/QUOTE] Way to fucking miss the point. But for you, I can even rephrase it: You wouldn't mind if they add all kinds of inconveniences, or even fuck you over, would you? "take up in the ass" as in, don't mind being screwed over, get it? Or you're just pretending to be dumb? [QUOTE=Antdawg;30467605]No I don't by the way, I'm defending EA's business practices because they are in their right to do this, and it's not even as bad as Steam anyways. People should stop being the fanboys that they are for Valve. I honestly can't wait for the day when Valve implements a new business strategy and causes everyone to absolutely lose it.[/QUOTE] It's not even fanboyism. There is a system that works and that everybody uses, and which offers more than just distribution. Why not just use that? Why force the customer to do some unnecessary bullshit?
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;30467742]Way to fucking miss the point. But for you, I can even rephrase it: You wouldn't mind if they add all kinds of inconveniences, or even fuck you over, would you? "take up in the ass" as in, don't mind being screwed over, get it? Or you're just pretending to be dumb?[/QUOTE] Yeah except origin doesn't fuck you over in any way. Maybe an inconvenience for you, but for me it's perfectly fine and even better than steam because I don't need steam running to play the game. Is it really that hard to buy and download a game from service that is not steam? If yes, go buy boxed copy or don't buy the game at all. [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30467742] It's not even fanboyism. There is a system that works and that everybody uses, and which offers more than just distribution. Why not just use that? Why force the customer to do some unnecessary bullshit?[/QUOTE]You're not forced to. As I said, you can either buy retail or not buy at all. No one forces you to buy or play games, really. Or are you gaming addict, because if so, origin is the least you should worry about
Origin will fail after 2 months of Battlefield 3 coming out and it will be back on steam again, don't worry.
who cares? you still get to play the game as you would on steam, but because it's not on your beloved steam it's shit? it's the same thing
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;30468432]who cares? you still get to play the game as you would on steam, but because it's not on your beloved steam it's shit? it's the same thing[/QUOTE] yes as in, yes, origin is shit.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;30468432]who cares? you still get to play the game as you would on steam, but because it's not on your beloved steam it's shit? it's the same thing[/QUOTE] but ea [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ubYpI.gif[/IMG]
[QUOTE=cathal6606;30456286]Boycotting if Battlefield 3 is on Origin[/QUOTE] Left out a crucial bit of info. Boycotting if Battlefield 3 is [b]exclusively[/b] on Origin
[QUOTE=cathal6606;30468525]Left out a crucial bit of info. Boycotting if Battlefield 3 is [b]exclusively[/b] on Origin[/QUOTE] It's not, it is available retail
[QUOTE=Dead snipe;30468465]yes as in, yes, origin is shit.[/QUOTE] you get to play the game all the same, what's the problem?
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;30468575]you get to play the game all the same, what's the problem?[/QUOTE] I have to install a piece of shitty software that i will only use once, all because EA wants to have their own fucking gimmick.
[QUOTE=Dead snipe;30468603]I have to install a piece of shitty software that i will only use once, all because EA wants to have their own fucking gimmick.[/QUOTE] Seeing as it will have not only bf3, you will use it more than once. It's like gta4 and rockstar club, it was totally useless piece of software AND you had to run it to play gta, but did it change anything? NO! Stop crying over some trivial shit babies.
Why are you defending Origin? Steam is a platform that has been worked on for many years, by a company who listens to its community. If Steam has a monopoly position in digital distribution, it's because it deserves to be in that position. It is more than just a download service (unlike Origin), and gives me a reason why I should install this together with my game. Sure, you can say: 'Origin is just something you have to use once', but that way, EA will use it for future games too and you'll have to keep using it. There is no reason for EA to exclusively release their games on Origin, except to get more money themselves (which was also why that Day One DLC was announced).
Eh, I'll just do what I have always done with games that aren't on Steam. Buy retail. Heck, Battlefield 3 will have the EA Profiles so there's no need for Origin OR Steam to run it.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;30467875]Yeah except origin doesn't fuck you over in any way. Maybe an inconvenience for you, but for me it's perfectly fine and even better than steam because I don't need steam running to play the game. Is it really that hard to buy and download a game from service that is not steam? If yes, go buy boxed copy or don't buy the game at all.[/QUOTE] It's not hard but it's unnecessary. If a publisher would release their game only in boxes and only in a certain store it would be okay for you too? The publisher can make you go through anything they want and you will just accept it? [QUOTE=johan_sm;30467875]You're not forced to. As I said, you can either buy retail or not buy at all. No one forces you to buy or play games, really. Or are you gaming addict, because if so, origin is the least you should worry about[/QUOTE] I knew some dumbass would go "you are not forced to buy it" bullshit. I am not forced to buy the game, yes, but if I want to buy the game I am forced to either go to a store or install some unnecessary stuff, instead of having it on steam where I know I won't loose the game in "more than 2 years" or some other shit. You probably are one of those people that go "you're not forced to go by car, you can just walk, it's not hard" when someone complains about the gas prices rising.
[QUOTE=Egonny;30468967]Why are you defending Origin? Steam is a platform that has been worked on for many years, by a company who listens to its community. If Steam has a monopoly position in digital distribution, it's because it deserves to be in that position. It is more than just a download service (unlike Origin), and gives me a reason why I should install this together with my game. Sure, you can say: 'Origin is just something you have to use once', but that way, EA will use it for future games too and you'll have to keep using it. There is no reason for EA to exclusively release their games on Origin, except to get more money themselves (which was also why that Day One DLC was announced).[/QUOTE] Because there is totally nothing wrong with origin unlike people make it out to be. If steam listens to the community, how come some of the most common bugs haven't been fixed for ages? No steam does not deserve to be in a monopoly position. This will force steam to improve more if they will feel threatened(not like they will but still) Open origin>buy game>download game>close origin. Repeat for another game. Is it that fucking complicated? I went to a store, I bought what I wanted and I left the store, I don't need to live in the store to play the game. As for money, well DUH, they're fucking business. Seriously name one valid thing why origin is bad. Reasons like "durr ea" and "i need to use it to download a game" do not count. [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469031]It's not hard but it's unnecessary. If a publisher would release their game only in boxes and only in a certain store it would be okay for you too? The publisher can make you go through anything they want and you will just accept it? [/QUOTE] The first part is already happening, especially on consoles. Nothing new here. As for stores, no physical store is owned by a game company. And it's their game and their choice as to where they want to sell it. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469031] I knew some dumbass would go "you are not forced to buy it" bullshit. I am not forced to buy the game, yes, but if I want to buy the game I am forced to either go to a store or install some unnecessary stuff, instead of having it on steam where I know I won't loose the game in "more than 2 years" or some other shit. [/QUOTE] Yes call me a dumbass because I have a choice and you don't. To some people steam might be unnecessary. Not to mention with origin you don't even need it running to play, unlike with steam. If you really can't be bothered to install a program to play a great game, you do not deserve to play a great game. Are you one of these people who refuse to buy games that have windows live or gta4 that has rockstar's club? Because their stuff is even more useless. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469031] You probably are one of those people that go "you're not forced to go by car, you can just walk, it's not hard" when someone complains about the gas prices rising.[/QUOTE] Car and game are totally different. A car is required to get to work and earn money, a game is just to play. If you said "I cant go to a movie theater because gas prices are high", then yeah you can walk by foot because it is not a job and is not required. Origin does not impact you at all. It doesn't cost money, OR TIME. I registered to origin and bought a game in like under 10 minutes. Instead of crying something as trivial as origin, go cry about day 1 dlc, that's more important.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;30469098] Seriously name one valid thing why origin is bad. Reasons like "durr ea" and "i need to use it to download a game" do not count.[/QUOTE] Other publishers might follow ea and you will have a steam or origin clone for every publisher. Not unnecessary or inconvenient at all. (Incoming "you aren't forced to play their games" bullshit) [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469098] As for stores, no physical store is owned by a game company. And it's their game and their choice as to where they want to sell it.[/QUOTE] Yeah so it's ok for them to make you go through anything they want if you want to play the game? [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469098]Yes call me a dumbass because I have a choice and you don't.[/QUOTE] I called you a dumbass for your dumb argument that misses my point entirely. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469098]To some people steam might be unnecessary. Not to mention with origin you don't even need it running to play, unlike with steam. If you really can't be bothered to install a program to play a great game, you do not deserve to play a great game. [/QUOTE] Again dumbass argument. I can be bothered to install some crap but it's still unnecessary, seriously how many times did I repeat it? [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469098] Are you one of these people who refuse to buy games that have windows live or gta4 that has rockstar's club? Because their stuff is even more useless.[/QUOTE] No, because I still have the GTA4 on my steam? And it's not going to disappear in "more than 2 years" or something.. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469098] Car and game are totally different. A car is required to get to work and earn money, a game is just to play. If you said "I cant go to a movie theater because gas prices are high", then yeah you can walk by foot because it is not a job and is not required. [/QUOTE] Let's try something different then, just trying to establish something. Hypothetically, there is a grocery store next to your house, you've been always using it. Now they have raised the prices on everything a lot. You can either go to a different shop that's 1km away or buy everything for twice the price. You just accept it? You don't even say a word about it? [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469098] Origin does not impact you at all. It doesn't cost money, OR TIME. I registered to origin and bought a game in like under 10 minutes. Instead of crying something as trivial as origin, go cry about day 1 dlc, that's more important.[/QUOTE] 10 other origin/steam clones will not affect me either I guess?
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469191]Other publishers might follow ea and you will have a steam or origin clone for every publisher. Not unnecessary or inconvenient at all. (Incoming "you aren't forced to play their games" bullshit)[/QUOTE]Many indies already do that, mc, zomboid and many others all have their own site for their own games. I don't see what much will change if big companies start to do that. You see if they do that and keep doing that will mean it was a success. If it will cost them more than they earn, they will stop.
How many titles does EA have on Steam then?
maybe if I get angry enough at this decision to not have bf3 on stem it won't matter that I preorder it even though I said I would boycott it
[QUOTE=johan_sm;30469271]You see if they do that and keep doing that will mean it was a success. If it will cost them more than they earn, they will stop.[/QUOTE] They will because of people like you. Activision can release a rehashed CoD every year because the community is ok with being screwed over. If people would've accepted the 3 install drm or some other shit like that, every game would have it now. The more screwing over you accept the more you get screwed over.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469191]Other publishers might follow ea and you will have a steam or origin clone for every publisher. Not unnecessary or inconvenient at all. (Incoming "you aren't forced to play their games" bullshit)[/QUOTE] If it's origin-like thingy I don't mind as I need it just to download the game. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469191] Yeah so it's ok for them to make you go through anything they want if you want to play the game? [/QUOTE] Well it kinda is, it's their game and it's 100% optional. Not to mention "the horrors" you're going through to get origin are not hard or long at all. Stop blowing an elephant out of a fly [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469191] I called you a dumbass for your dumb argument that misses my point entirely. [/QUOTE] If it missed the point, your point was either badly explained or I just didn't understand it and instead of calling me a dumbass you could either re-explain it or just not bother. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469191] Again dumbass argument. I can be bothered to install some crap but it's still unnecessary, seriously how many times did I repeat it? [/QUOTE] Omg you dumbass, fucking uninstall it. Or are you not smart enough to do that? If so, don't use a pc and get a console, no shit to install/uninstall there. Right for your IQ level [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469191] No, because I still have the GTA4 on my steam? And it's not going to disappear in "more than 2 years" or something.. [/QUOTE] No one said it will on origin. Just because it did on eadm doesn't mean it will here. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469191] Let's try something different then, just trying to establish something. Hypothetically, there is a grocery store next to your house, you've been always using it. Now they have raised the prices on everything a lot. You can either go to a different shop that's 1km away or buy everything for twice the price. You just accept it? You don't even say a word about it? [/QUOTE] That's a really stupid comparison, origin is not "far away". And yes that already happened where I lived. If people were still buying and the store didn't reduce the prices means it was profitable for them, otherwise they'd reduce them already. A store is a business, if it earns money, it has no reason to change stuff unless it will bring even more profit. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469191] 10 other origin/steam clones will not affect me either I guess?[/QUOTE] Again, if they don't close/change tactics means people are pleased, thus no reason to change anything. I get where you're going, you hate origin and so you express your displeasure. Well then don't buy the game and vote with your wallet or whatever. I personally like origin and will support it. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;30469471]They will because of people like you. Activision can release a rehashed CoD every year because the community is ok with being screwed over. If people would've accepted the 3 install drm or some other shit like that, every game would have it now. The more screwing over you accept the more you get screwed over.[/QUOTE] They can release rehashes because people like them. If you hate cod, don't buy it. If a lot of people buy it anyway, means they like it. Thus why change anything if your rehash earns you millions? You have a choice. If you hate origin, don't buy the game, vote with your wallet. If EA will fill the hit, they will change their tactics, if they won't feel the hit, then there's no reason to change.
all I want to do is play my games and hate change but this is making is so fuckibg hard
[QUOTE=Nathax;30469648]all I want to do is play my games and hate change but this is making is so fuckibg hard[/QUOTE]Oh god I need to install a program and make an account, SO HARD.
Wow 16 hours of whining over something insignificant, stay classy people.
I can live with BF3 not coming to Steam then, but I sure as hell hope it won't have some sort of integration with Origin requiring you to install it.
[QUOTE=Clavus;30470121]I can live with BF3 not coming to Steam then, but I sure as hell hope it won't have some sort of integration with Origin requiring you to install it.[/QUOTE] It won't. BF3 already has EA profiles.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;30469098]Open origin>buy game>download game>close origin. Repeat for another game. Is it that fucking complicated? I went to a store, I bought what I wanted and I left the store, I don't need to live in the store to play the game. [/quote] While trying to follow that comparison, imagine having to go to another store for every publisher. I know Origin can be uninstalled, but it's the fact that the digital distribution market is getting fragmented by doing this. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469098]Seriously name one valid thing why origin is bad. Reasons like "durr ea" and "i need to use it to download a game" do not count.[/quote] It tries to compete with Steam but fails to deliver a complete experience like Steam does (friends, groups, ...). I know EA Profiles does this, but then why not just incorporate a digital download service in EA Profiles instead of make yet another service? If I wanted to just buy or download a game, why can't I do that from my browser, since all you do is enter credit card information and press the download button? But I can understand that there will be people who prefer Origin over Steam, I'm just not one of those people, so why can't EA sell their games on both Origin and Steam? I mean, they would have a lot more of potential customers too, I just don't get why they do this: most gamers know Steam, but I didn't even know anything about Origin before I read this thread.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;30469621]If it's origin-like thingy I don't mind as I need it just to download the game.[/QUOTE] You don't mind having 10 steam/origin clones... nice. Not everyone wants all this bullshit tho. Why can't you understand it? I know origin is only 1, but everything has a start. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469621]Well it kinda is, it's their game and it's 100% optional.[/QUOTE] And that's why you are a tool. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469621] Not to mention "the horrors" you're going through to get origin are not hard or long at all. Stop blowing an elephant out of a fly[/QUOTE] Yeah, for now they aren't. But I'm looking few years forward. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469621] If it missed the point, your point was either badly explained or I just didn't understand it and instead of calling me a dumbass you could either re-explain it or just not bother. [/QUOTE] You missed the fucking point because you are a dumbass. I have to add "if I want to buy their game" before every "I'm forced to" for you, because if I won't you'll imminently go "you're not forced to buy the game", and that's missing the point entirely. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469621] Omg you dumbass, fucking uninstall it. Or are you not smart enough to do that? If so, don't use a pc and get a console, no shit to install/uninstall there. Right for your IQ level [/QUOTE] lmao fucking hypocrite. Criticizing me for calling you a dumbass yet making remarks about my intelligence. And where did you even get it from that it's too hard for me to uninstall a shit program? Now not only I have to install but also uninstall a shit program, instead of just having the game on steam and be happy? Not going through unnecessary bullshit at all, nope. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469621] No one said it will on origin. Just because it did on eadm doesn't mean it will here. [/QUOTE] How can I know? And knowing EA it will have some bullshit like that. Everybody trust steam, it works, why not just keep going with it? [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469621] That's a really stupid comparison, origin is not "far away". And yes that already happened where I lived. If people were still buying and the store didn't reduce the prices means it was profitable for them, otherwise they'd reduce them already. A store is a business, if it earns money, it has no reason to change stuff unless it will bring even more profit. [/QUOTE] It wasn't a comparison. Just like the one with a car wasn't. You haven't answered my question. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469621] Again, if they don't close/change tactics means people are pleased, thus no reason to change anything. I get where you're going, you hate origin and so you express your displeasure. Well then don't buy the game and vote with your wallet or whatever. I personally like origin and will support it. [/QUOTE] Yeah the tools like you are always pleased, no matter how much they're screwed over and no matter to how much more screwing over it leads. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469621] They can release rehashes because people like them. If you hate cod, don't buy it. If a lot of people buy it anyway, means they like it. Thus why change anything if your rehash earns you millions? [/QUOTE] I wasn't criticizing the company for milking the community made out of tools. I was criticizing the tools that let the company screw them over. [QUOTE=johan_sm;30469621] You have a choice. If you hate origin, don't buy the game, vote with your wallet. If EA will fill the hit, they will change their tactics, if they won't feel the hit, then there's no reason to change.[/QUOTE] But you are advocating their tactics. Now you're saying that it's a choice everyone has and it's my option to vote with my wallet but then again, every post that you've made in this thread is attacking and insulting people who voice their opinions. The fuck are you trying to do here?
I don't mind competition, it's their games and they can do what they want with them. I mean really people, competition might mean Crysis isn't on steam for a while, if ever, if people really love Crysis they'll buy it on Origin. One thing I'm sure of, however, is that the wars between companies for market share always turns out great for everyone else. 1990s console wars were fucking awesome. Maybe we'll see constantly new features out of steam, ever greater indie support than they have now, better deals all in the name of fucking with Origin. Or who knows, maybe Origin will do well. Having two programs for game distribution isn't the end of the world, it's inconvenient, there's a difference.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;30470449]The fuck are you trying to do here?[/QUOTE] The same thing you are, attacking people with different opinions.
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