• OkCupid's CEO Donated to an Anti-Gay Candidate in 2004
    64 replies, posted
[QUOTE=matt000024;44492898]So economic interests are more important than human rights and putting money before people is acceptable to do?[/QUOTE] You asked how the title was misleading and he told you. How did you even get that he thinks it's acceptable? Jesus christ.
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;44493622]No, and I make no apologies for it. But there is a distinct difference. One is just the usual corporate bribery, to a rather nasty individual in this case, versus an active and unapologetic attack. There is a difference between baksheesh and active ideological actions.[/QUOTE] the facts still stand that OkCupid's CEO donated to a candidate that was knowingly anti-gay and voted tons of times to restrict gay-rights, and he lead a crusade against another CEO that donated a similar amount to support anti-gay legislation which ultimately failed. both amounts were only 600$ and 1000$, its not like mozila's CEO was cutting million dollar checks each election or had a track record of being anti-gay it was a one time donation to a group that actually has set gay-rights forward by setting legal precident that gay-marrage bans are unconstitutional Sam Yagon started a witch hunt that cost a man his job because he wanted to make a fuss and get his shitty website some free PR
[QUOTE=Riller;44487832]It quite is. I was anti-gay-marriage (But pro civil unions and adoption all them other rights, just didn't realize that a traditional marriage might matter to some people) a couple years back, ain't no longer.[/QUOTE] What the shit, Riller, a lot of your posts are super pro-choice and you actively support gay marriage and rights. That's one hell of a swing. Most people go from hating it, to at the most, "tolerable".
[QUOTE=gokiyono;44487842]But not 6?[/QUOTE] that is possible, except that mozilla dude still tried to defend his shitty stance. but yeah this is pretty hypocritical, i don't see how supporting someone who will vote for anti gay legislation is any different than directly supporting the anti gay legislation [editline]9th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Sableye;44494583]the facts still stand that OkCupid's CEO donated to a candidate that was knowingly anti-gay and voted tons of times to restrict gay-rights, and he lead a crusade against another CEO that donated a similar amount to support anti-gay legislation which ultimately failed. both amounts were only 600$ and 1000$, its not like mozila's CEO was cutting million dollar checks each election or had a track record of being anti-gay it was a one time donation to a group that actually has set gay-rights forward by setting legal precident that gay-marrage bans are unconstitutional Sam Yagon started a witch hunt that cost a man his job because he wanted to make a fuss and get his shitty website some free PR[/QUOTE] okcupid didn't cause the backlash against the mozilla dude, people working within mozilla were the ones that brought it up [editline]9th April 2014[/editline] i will continue to boycott okcupid in response to this unless this ceo apologizes for this
I think they're just pointing out the fact that the website had the audacity to "boycott firefox" when the CEO himself was just as bad.
So it was all just a hypocritical publicity stunt from OkCupid that's going to get swept under the rug because everyone wants to feel like a hero for conquering the big, bad Eich. What a load of shit.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;44496150]So it was all just a hypocritical publicity stunt from OkCupid that's going to get swept under the rug because everyone wants to feel like a hero for conquering the big, bad Eich. What a load of shit.[/QUOTE] like i said earlier, it wasn't okcupid that started or spearheaded this, it was employees at mozilla
I don't mind that it happened. Mozilla doesn't want their CEO's actions to tarnish their reputation. That's their right as a company.
If a political candidate has good policy, i'll still vote for him, who gives a shit that he donated to whoever fuck
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;44496174]like i said earlier, it wasn't okcupid that started or spearheaded this, it was employees at mozilla[/QUOTE] A+ reading comprehension, genius [img]http://www.technewsplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/okcupid-firefox.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=geel9;44498565]A+ reading comprehension, genius [img]http://www.technewsplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/okcupid-firefox.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Mozilla was the company that brought it up originally, I don't see how this proves/disproves anything at all.
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;44498575]Mozilla was the company that brought it up originally, I don't see how this proves/disproves anything at all.[/QUOTE] Because Okcupid took a fucking hypocritical, public stance on the issue? Jesus christ
[QUOTE=geel9;44498577]Because Okcupid took a fucking hypocritical, public stance on the issue? Jesus christ[/QUOTE] how is it hypocritical??
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;44498582]how is it hypocritical??[/QUOTE] People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;44498602]People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.[/QUOTE] how is it hypocritical though
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;44496174]like i said earlier, it wasn't okcupid that started or spearheaded this, it was employees at mozilla[/QUOTE] Wasn't actually employees [I]at[/I] Mozilla (iirc), but a pair of outside developers that simply worked on stuff for Firefox and such. Not that it matters much, but this originally an outside boycott - not one by actual employees.
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;44498623]how is it hypocritical though[/QUOTE] they bitched about mozillas CEO doing the same shit as their own?
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;44498623]how is it hypocritical though[/QUOTE] Because of one OkCupid's co-founders did basically the same thing? Isn't that pretty much the definition of hypocritical (okay, sure, he's not the CEO).
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;44498623]how is it hypocritical though[/QUOTE] are you impaired
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;44498702]Because of one OkCupid's co-founders did basically the same thing? Isn't that pretty much the definition of hypocritical (okay, sure, he's not the CEO).[/QUOTE] Except, again, false equivalence. He donated to the general campaign of a man which was pro-business and anti-gay, amongst other positions. Eich donated to an anti-gay campaign with the [i]sole, exclusive[/i] purpose of depriving gay people of rights. They are very different animals with different objectives. Edit: And if you read the link, he actually repudiated that donation and acted in such a way to show it, which is more than can be said for Eich.
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;44498881]Except, again, false equivalence. He donated to the general campaign of a man which was pro-business and anti-gay, amongst other positions. Eich donated to an anti-gay campaign with the [i]sole, exclusive[/i] purpose of depriving gay people of rights. They are very different animals with different objectives. Edit: And if you read the link, he actually repudiated that donation and acted in such a way to show it, which is more than can be said for Eich.[/QUOTE] Except Eich said time and time again in interviews that A. He wanted Mozilla to be as open as it was. B. He championed the openness. How are you going to explain view changes to people who are Notorious to not care for apologies?
[QUOTE=Swilly;44499019]Except Eich said time and time again in interviews that A. He wanted Mozilla to be as open as it was. B. He championed the openness. How are you going to explain view changes to people who are Notorious to not care for apologies?[/QUOTE] For one thing: Actually apologize. Eich just said a bunch of guff about 'sorry for hurting people' while not actually apologizing in an explicit and meaningful way for what he actually did - which was to aid people's rights being taken away and in fact deleted several blog comments calling him out for such, in fact. He didn't do such even in the face of a college who had detail what his donation had paid for*. To [i]Mea culpa[/i], you have to actually say what you feel culpable for, otherwise it comes off as an evasion. This is how you do it: [quote=Exodus International shutting down]I am sorry for the pain and hurt many of you have experienced. I am sorry that some of you spent years working through the shame and guilt you felt when your attractions didn’t change. I am sorry we promoted sexual orientation change efforts and reparative theories about sexual orientation that stigmatized parents.[/quote] Not some piffling about diversity and hurt about pain! You say that you are sorry for what you did and take it back. *[url]http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/3/5579516/outfoxed-how-protests-forced-mozillas-ceo-to-resign-in-11-days[/url]
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;44487759]The idiots doing this witchhunt need to learn to forgive and forget. Who cares what they did in the past, the important thing is they failed.[/QUOTE] There is no forgiving when it comes to actively trying to oppress gays, Its unforgiveable, bestial and subhuman.
[QUOTE=Riller;44487832]It quite is. I was anti-gay-marriage (But pro civil unions and adoption all them other rights, just didn't realize that a traditional marriage might matter to some people) a couple years back, ain't no longer.[/QUOTE] dumb ratings on Facepunch do that.
In 2004 I thought 'gayness' was gross and it was just something like being goth or some shit. Now I'm gay and stare at perky male ass all day, make 3d penis models, and obsess over Lady Gaga.
I've never been opposed to the idea of homosexuality or trans people because my parents and friends growing up never taught me to be a terrible bigot. I guess I'm pretty lucky.
[QUOTE=Sableye;44494583]the facts still stand that OkCupid's CEO donated to a candidate that was knowingly anti-gay and voted tons of times to restrict gay-rights, and he lead a crusade against another CEO that donated a similar amount to support anti-gay legislation which ultimately failed. both amounts were only 600$ and 1000$, its not like mozila's CEO was cutting million dollar checks each election or had a track record of being anti-gay it was a one time donation to a group that actually has set gay-rights forward by setting legal precident that gay-marrage bans are unconstitutional Sam Yagon started a witch hunt that cost a man his job because he wanted to make a fuss and get his shitty website some free PR[/QUOTE] OkCupid may not be shining beacons of morality themselves but that doesn't mean Eich didn't deserve to get sacked.
[QUOTE=Swilly;44499019]Except Eich said time and time again in interviews that A. He wanted Mozilla to be as open as it was. B. He championed the openness. How are you going to explain view changes to people who are Notorious to not care for apologies?[/QUOTE] I'm confused, Eich never apologised or anything, so who are you talking about?
[QUOTE=geel9;44498565]A+ reading comprehension, genius [img]http://www.technewsplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/okcupid-firefox.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] except he was saying that people are sweeping it under the rug because they want to feel good for the mozilla ceo stepping down. and i'm saying that's not true and that okcupid wasn't even the ones who started the thing about the mozilla ceo. you can criticize both (like me)
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;44496174]like i said earlier, it wasn't okcupid that started or spearheaded this, it was employees at mozilla[/QUOTE] Rarebit started the boycott, not "mozilla employees". So no, what you said earlier was totally wrong. [QUOTE=Lachz0r;44504336]except he was saying that people are sweeping it under the rug because they want to feel good for the mozilla ceo stepping down. and i'm saying that's not true and that okcupid wasn't even the ones who started the thing about the mozilla ceo. you can criticize both (like me)[/QUOTE]Wow it seems some of you can't fucking read. Let's go over this carefully: OkCupid, with their message, openly joined a boycott over Eich's actions when their co-founder is almost equally culpable of the same shit. I don't give a shit who started the boycott, OkCupid's stance is extremely hypocritical and in that context seems to be nothing more than a publicity stunt. If you're mad at Mozilla, you should be mad at OkCupid too.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.