• Virginia Republicans Call for Armed Revolution if Obama Wins in November.
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[QUOTE=Kopimi;37334437]no which is more evidence that buttsex and mastermaul are living in a fantasy world and will some day end up on the news for walking into a small-town sheriffs office and shooting everyone shouting "revolution"[/QUOTE] chemtrails r real fluoride in da water!11 guv is tryna kill us all!!!!
Wow what a bunch of spoiled children.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;37334413]Should have made that clear in that last post, but still, I apologize.[/QUOTE] That said though, I'm not well read in the history of the Vietnam war entirely, but I'm sure there's a differance between people from a third world country in the late 60s, and modern first world bible belt fat asses, upset that a black guy is the president.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;37334409]lol yes a bunch of tough 3rd world guerilla fighters with nothing to lose and a culture of throwing out invaders were able to make life hell for american invaders on their home turf, congrats. how do you expect that to paralleled with a bunch of lazy first world people risking their comparably comfortable lives to overthrow one of the most powerful militaries on earth, on their own turf? you're a crazy person, seek help[/QUOTE] This is an entirely theoretical scenario and I believe a very important element of such a theoretical scenario is that the domestic government has degraded to the point of massive abuse of power and violence which would therefor instill large degrees of anti-government sentiment in the general population. Of course a popular revolution isn't going to occur in the current political climate, we're talking about [I]a hypothetical scenario.[/I] Absolutely no part of my argument is supportive of BILLY JOE BUB AND HIS ANTI-OBUMMER MUHLITIA.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;37334484]This is an entirely theoretical scenario and I believe a very important element of such a theoretical scenario is that the domestic government has degraded to the point of massive abuse of power and violence which would therefor instill large degrees of anti-government sentiment in the general population. Of course a popular revolution isn't going to occur in the current political climate, we're talking about [I]a hypothetical scenario.[/I][/QUOTE] then there's literally no reason to discuss this imaginary world of hyper corruption and violence. in a hypothetical scenario the govt could be ruled by pomeranians and thus revolution would be feasible but i'm not going to seriously argue with you about that because its dumb
[QUOTE=Kopimi;37334510]then there's literally no reason to discuss this imaginary world of hyper corruption and violence. in a hypothetical scenario the govt could be ruled by pomeranians and thus revolution would be feasible but i'm not going to seriously argue with you about that because its dumb[/QUOTE] You're arguing that it's literally impossible for a rebel force of literally any size on domestic soil to defeat the United States government in any context or scenario. I'm telling you that's wrong.
I'd argue that with our system of democracy that it's impossible for us to GET to a point where the government is so bad we'd have a big enough rebelling force that would be able to rebel successfully.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;37334315]No, in the U.S., it is impossible. End of discussion. [/QUOTE] Not really. It's quite possible. As long as people support the revolution, it is possible. When the people will something strong enough, they will get it.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;37334535]You're arguing that it's literally impossible for a rebel force of literally any size on domestic soil to defeat the United States government in any context or scenario. I'm telling you that's wrong.[/QUOTE] uh given the current fucking reality in which pomeranians/a hyper-abusive govt doesn't exist yeah its not possible [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] i'm sure you'd be the first one to put down your my little pony dvd and join the fight against an oppressive government, risking your entire life and the safety of your family to overthrow the government, right? and i'm sure everyone else would too!
I think the funniest part of this is that they are blatantly stating that they will disregard the majority's decision in the presidential election and overthrow him based on the minority's opinion.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;37334577]uh given the current fucking reality in which pomeranians/a hyper-abusive govt doesn't exist yeah its not possible [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] i'm sure you'd be the first one to put down your my little pony dvd and join the fight against an oppressive government, risking your entire life and the safety of your family to overthrow the government, right? and i'm sure everyone else would too![/QUOTE] Personal insults aren't legitimate supplements for an actual argument. Once again, this is a hypothetical future scenario. History show time and time again that no government is unfaliable and concrete. Even if the climate is stable now, this may not be so for all time. I'm pretty sure that if such a horrible Pomeranian dystopia were to come into existence there would be no appeal in a life without person freedoms and meaning, and fighting for such things would probably seem like the right thing to do. This is how popular revolutions happen.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;37334677]Personal insults aren't legitimate supplements for an actual argument. Once again, this is a hypothetical future scenario. History show time and time again that no government is unfaliable and concrete. Even if the climate is stable now, this may not be so for all time. I'm pretty sure that if such a horrible Pomeranian dystopia were to come into existence there would be no appeal in a life without person freedoms and meaning, and fighting for such things would probably seem like the right thing to do. This is how popular revolutions happen.[/QUOTE] aight be sure to let me know when any of this is remotely feasible in the real world, not your imaginary world of hypotheticals
[QUOTE=Kopimi;37334577]uh given the current fucking reality in which pomeranians/a hyper-abusive govt doesn't exist yeah its not possible [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] i'm sure you'd be the first one to put down your my little pony dvd and join the fight against an oppressive government, risking your entire life and the safety of your family to overthrow the government, right? and i'm sure everyone else would too![/QUOTE] I would. But I wouldn't fight knowing the GOP, or any existing political party was waiting in the wings to take power and I wouldn't fight for anything less than total war against the government because anything less would be pointless, it's just a good thing we haven't gotten to that point.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;37334702]aight be sure to let me know when any of this is remotely feasible in the real world, not your imaginary world of hypotheticals[/QUOTE] This whole time you've been arguing for a hypothetical military suppression, way too late to pull that card buddy.
Really in the end, either Obama gets reelected and shit goes down in Virgina on the day it happens or a few days after. Or (like most of us would presume) nothing fucking happens and the Republicans keep pissing in the wind for another four years.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;37334738]This whole time you've been arguing for a hypothetical military suppression, way too late to pull that card buddy.[/QUOTE] what in the fuck are you talking about you're literally coming into a thread talking about how you would risk your entire life and well being participating in an armed revolution against the United States govt. ignoring the fact that the idea of you actually leaving your comfortable suburban life and joining millions of other americans who decided to do the same is hysterical, you're talking about that revolution being feasible despite the fact that the united states military has infinitely more firepower than you and your wannabe-revolutionary friends. then when confronted with the fact that neither you nor the rest of america have the determination or resolve to go through with a suicide mission that is armed revolt in america, you say you're talking about hypotheticals so i can't criticize how batshit insane your delusions of grandeur really are. i know you think you're really clever saying "oh oh but youre talking about hypotheticals too lol!!" but in reality you're just saying "you actually responded logically to my dumb hypothetical situation!!". so yeah bottom line is you're insane, delusional, and adorably naive when it comes to the demand of an armed revolution in a first world country, america no less [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] how about you just move to a different country jesus christ [QUOTE=mastermaul;37334847]Once again you seem to be under the misconception that popular revolutions are usually fought on the conventional battlefield. I don't think there's going to be any results from a further argument seeing how impermeable your skull seems to be, so I'm just going to stop right now.[/QUOTE] see you on the battlefield brother! *puts down pizza and salutes*
[QUOTE=Kopimi;37334797]what in the fuck are you talking about you're literally coming into a thread talking about how you would risk your entire life and well being participating in an armed revolution against the United States govt. ignoring the fact that the idea of you actually leaving your comfortable suburban life and joining millions of other americans who decided to do the same is hysterical, you're talking about that revolution being feasible despite the fact that the united states military has infinitely more firepower than you and your wannabe-revolutionary friends. then when confronted with the fact that neither you nor the rest of america have the determination or resolve to go through with a suicide mission that is armed revolt in america, you say you're talking about hypotheticals so i can't criticize how batshit insane your delusions of grandeur really are. i know you think you're really clever saying "oh oh but youre talking about hypotheticals too lol!!" but in reality you're just saying "you actually responded logically to my dumb hypothetical situation!!". so yeah bottom line is you're insane, delusional, and adorably naive when it comes to the demand of an armed revolution in a first world country, america no less [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] how about you just move to a different country jesus christ[/QUOTE] Once again you seem to be under the misconception that popular revolutions are usually fought on the conventional battlefield. I don't think there's going to be any results from a further argument seeing how impermeable your skull seems to be, so I'm just going to stop right now.
Wait guys this is not about any feasible or real or possible armed revolution against the Federal Government. This is about some dumb shit Republicans said
[QUOTE=person11;37334911]Wait guys this is not about any feasible or real or possible armed revolution against the Federal Government. This is about some dumb shit Republicans said[/QUOTE] Extremists groups on both sides sling this shit around all the time during election season, I wouldn't count on any actual occurrences.
Dude, Kopimi, we're talking about a bunch of crazy Republicans saying that they "might" attempt an armed revolution if Obama is reelected. Not how much you hate mastermaul for some repeatedly ambiguous reason.
Good point. A bunch of Libertarians and Occupy Wall Street people also called for armed revolution and it was just as dumb and non likely as when Virginia Republicans say it. If I ever get into politics, I will do my best to only speak the truth, and not exaggerate to the point of talking about armed uprisings.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;37334944]Dude, Kopimi, we're talking about a bunch of crazy Republicans saying that they "might" attempt an armed revolution if Obama is reelected. Not how much you hate mastermaul for some repeatedly ambiguous reason.[/QUOTE] why are you complaining about me and not him we're both talking about the same subject you know. though i can't really blame you for not understanding that, its a bit obvious you have trouble reading if you can't discern why i hate mastermaul
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;37334944]Dude, Kopimi, we're talking about a bunch of crazy Republicans saying that they "might" attempt an armed revolution if Obama is reelected. Not how much you hate mastermaul for some repeatedly ambiguous reason.[/QUOTE] I'll be honest I kind of did derail the topic a bit too far from that of the thread's original purpose, I apologize for any shitstorm that might have occured in the process.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;37330982]Doesn't Facepunch call for armed revolutions in America all the time?[/QUOTE] do we go to the same forum? FP is anti violence and using guns for non home defense purposes
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37335004]do we go to the same forum? FP is anti violence and using guns for non home defense purposes[/QUOTE] Go into a thread talkin' about gun law, everyone is all like "SECOND AMENDMENT IS KING WE MUST DEFEND OUR RIGHT TO SHOOT UP THE GOVERNMENT"
it's almost as though facepunch has thousands of users many of whom have different opinions on stuff huh thats crazy
[QUOTE=mastermaul;37334976]I'll be honest I kind of did derail the topic a bit too far from that of the thread's original purpose, I apologize for any shitstorm that might have occured in the process.[/QUOTE] Well you didn't turn a slight derailment into banding your fists into a brick wall like a child having a temper tantrum. So it's fine.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;37334363]I'm just stating that if one were to occur its success would be entirely within the realm of possibility.[/QUOTE] The only way an armed revolution could be successful in the United States is if you managed to get a small chunk of the US military to defect to the revolution's side. And unless we really [b]do[/b] elect the next Hitler, that's not going to happen.
I think this calls for a preemptive strike
[QUOTE=InsanePyro;37335377]I think this calls for a preemptive strike[/QUOTE] yes let's nuke virginia no, there are republicans in every state let's nuke every state
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