• New Bill Known As Enemy Expatriation Act Would Allow Government To Strip Citizenship Without Convict
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[QUOTE=Sam xD;34121887]So what country do they have citizenship in when they lose there US citizenship?[/QUOTE] Gitmo
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;34121247]Before we break out the "police state" rhetoric... [url]http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS441US441&ix=heb&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Enemy+Expatriation+Act#q=Enemy+Expatriation+Act&hl=en&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS441US441&prmd=imvnsu&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=90QKT6_TOaTe0QG2xIjDAg&ved=0CC4QqAI&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=62234cabe65d45a3&biw=1361&bih=759[/url] Looks like this is one of those bills one lone congressman re-submits every year and is found to be so outlandish it's dismissed on the spot by referring it to committee (a majority of the bills sent to committee are never seen again...): [url]http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS441US441&ix=heb&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Terrorist+Expatriation+Ac#hl=en&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS441US441&sa=X&ei=MUUKT8WkJInf0QGDhLmDCw&ved=0CBkQvwUoAQ&q=Terrorist+Expatriation+Act&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=23bc058ba87a7947&biw=1361&bih=759[/url][/QUOTE] That's true. I recommend the site govtrack.us. You can get the summaries and progress of both the [url=http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-3166]house[/url] and [url=http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-1698]senate[/url] versions of this bill, which show they were both referred to committee after their introduction in October and have essentially died there, like many bills do. I'm not sure why this site is picking up on this just now. Admittedly though, it's rather pitiful that these things get thought of in the first place.
Im questioning the source.
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;34121787]Like this will even pass.[/QUOTE] Remember when everyone was saying that about NDAA? yeah. I'm not even in the US but seeing all these bills getting introduced and passed just infuriates me, whoever in congress is introducing and supporting these bills need to be lynched (but imprisoned).
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;34121787]Like this will even pass.[/QUOTE] Pfft, NDAA? NOBODY WILL PASS THIS SHIT Pfft, SOPA? LOL NOPE NOT HAPPENING (I know it's not passed yet shut up, it's most likely going to and therefore an example) How many inherently retarded bills need to pass for you to figure out the fucking pattern?
[QUOTE=LSMX;34122650]Pfft, NDAA? NOBODY WILL PASS THIS SHIT Pfft, SOPA? LOL NOPE NOT HAPPENING (I know it's not passed yet shut up, it's most likely going to and therefore an example) How many inherently retarded bills need to pass for you to figure out the fucking pattern?[/QUOTE] After the one that specifically gets you arrested for merely existing, obviously.
[QUOTE=tehperzon;34120380]Canada has plenty of room, especially the prairies, nothing but grain fields.[/QUOTE] Prairies, it's like a Northern version of Wyoming! It has mountains, sorta-farming and plenty of prairies! [editline]8th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34122692]After the one that specifically gets you arrested for merely existing, obviously.[/QUOTE] I'm sure by then we'd have a violent revolution sparked somehow.
[QUOTE=The one that is;34122700] I'm sure by then we'd have a violent revolution sparked somehow.[/QUOTE] Nah, that'd never get pass :v:
First the NDAA, then SOPA, now this? Are you fucking kidding me? Country of freedom, ha, so hypocritical now it's not even funny.
[QUOTE=An Armed Bear;34119951]Best to pull out the weeds before they grow.[/QUOTE] Well right, but I'm saying as far as commentating goes, it doesn't make sense to act like it's the end of the world or anything.
Lets see if I can dig up some old quotes from the NDAA topics... [Quote="lulzbocksV2"]-it will be struck down by the Supreme Court immediately.[/quote] [Quote="EagleEye"]It'll never pass, even if it did they would have to deal with many angry, armed Americans.[/quote] Yeah "it'll never pass" [b]Edit:[/b] Lets just sit here and twiddle our thumbs and say that back and forth.
It's like congress is preparing themselves for war! Against the people and the world.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34123070]Well right, but I'm saying as far as commentating goes, it doesn't make sense to act like it's the end of the world or anything.[/QUOTE] I'd rather people over react than under react.
This is fucking disgusting and all of this wretched, horrible bills meant to criminalize just about any breathing/living thing makes me ashamed to be an American. Fuck the assholes running this country and fuck the idiots who continue to support this nonsense. I seriously hate America at this point, and if that's enough for some rich prick to "strip me of my citizenship," then I don't even want my worthless fucking "citizenship" to begin with.
My response to every bill in this forum: [img]http://www.soundonsight.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Gandalf-You-Shall-Not-Pass-Ian-McKellen.png[/img]
No one gives a flying fuck about politics, people let the government make the laws for everything and say what is good for them and not good for them. What happened to the good America where it actually stood by the constitution?
[QUOTE=Yogurt;34119715]So basically this makes NDAA just as bad as we thought.[/QUOTE] Except they removed the language that everyone cried about in the NDAA, the president even condemned it, read the article. [editline]8th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=SpaceGhost;34123043]First the NDAA, then SOPA, now this? Are you fucking kidding me? Country of freedom, ha, so hypocritical now it's not even funny.[/QUOTE] Yes you dolt, land of the free, people are free to propose SHITTY bills, just like you are free to FIGHT shitty bills, fuck, look at it from a better viewpoint.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;34125106]No one gives a flying fuck about politics, people let the government make the laws for everything and say what is good for them and not good for them. What happened to the good America where it actually stood by the constitution?[/QUOTE] Sounds like something Ron Paul would say. It's not about following the constitution exactly for what it says. Just remember what kind of people wrote it: rich slave-owning white males who had nothing more in mind than insuring their positions of power. The real problems is following COMMON SENSE and actually REPRESENTING what people want in this country, rather than taking away rights and criminalizing the people for pretty much anything. Not everything has to be a written law for it to make sense to have to be followed. At some point, preferably after all these assholes in Congress/the government either die or get kicked out of office, there should be serious consideration for either revising the Constitution or creating a new piece of paper to go by, since following a 200-year old document that doesn't account for changes in modern societal issues and general changes in how the whole world works in general, doesn't make much sense. Just my two cents.
[QUOTE=DSG;34125180]Sounds like something Ron Paul would say. It's not about following the constitution exactly for what it says. Just remember what kind of people wrote it: rich slave-owning white males who had nothing more in mind than insuring their positions of power. The real problems is following COMMON SENSE and actually REPRESENTING what people want in this country, rather than taking away rights and criminalizing the people for pretty much anything. Not everything has to be a written law for it to make sense to have to be followed. At some point, preferably after all these assholes in Congress/the government either die or get kicked out of office, there should be serious consideration for either revising the Constitution or creating a new piece of paper to go by, since following a 200-year old document that doesn't account for changes in modern societal issues and general changes in how the whole world works in general, doesn't make much sense. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE] Yes, even those in Rhode Island and Vermont were filled with slave owners - nothing but!
[video=youtube;LfW5RZfvE9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfW5RZfvE9Q&feature=related[/video] I find this song fitting now; "Line up all of you, and turn in your eyes; you just won't need them anymore." "All your money's ours, to bankrupt at cold wars. You can't see what you're fighting for." "The true face of evil can be seen with own eyes."
[QUOTE=krazipanda;34119803]it makes ndaa not changed at fucking all except for being worse. who fucking passed this.[/QUOTE] read article
FREEDOOOOOM! Seriously, how stupid are these folks? That's just utterly retarded. I'd offer you guys a place in Germany, but well, our government is also stupid as shit. I will continue on planning to move to norway, heritage of my ancestors. Still need to enhance my stamina via mead.
Guys, please. Just move to Canada and get out of the pissing match that is congress. We have Maple Syrup! Plus, you'll at least be out of firing range of the United States for a bit... If this bill is enacted Move to Canada Call the White House and tell them something "terroristy-like" something like "I am the 99%!" or "I hate FOX News!" Get your citizenship removed Apply for refugee status in Canada. We let anyone in! Seriously.
[QUOTE=Haxxer;34125280][video=youtube;LfW5RZfvE9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfW5RZfvE9Q&feature=related[/video] I find this song fitting now; "Line up all of you, and turn in your eyes; you just won't need them anymore." "All your money's ours, to bankrupt at cold wars. You can't see what you're fighting for." "The true face of evil can be seen with own eyes."[/QUOTE] I prefer Pink Floyd's Waiting For The Worms. Since you know. it's about the fascist, blind, merciless hammers wreaking havoc and terror.
[QUOTE=Nikota;34119666]Hang on...which god?[/QUOTE] Kratos
Hopefully all the idiots in congress now will get voted out in the upcoming elections. We need to seriously put term limits on these people so we don't have people who've been holding a seat since the 60s/70s/80s making decisions based on outdated beliefs.
We've seen Congress propose bills just as insane before, until this thing is passed into law I'm not worried.
I almost fucking called it when NDAA came around. Everyone was saying citizens are exempt from NDAA, but I wondered "What's stopping them from stripping someone of their citizenship to put NDAA into action against them?" but dismissed it as overly paranoid. I'm sleeping with a rifle under my pillow.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;34128559]I'm sleeping with a rifle under my pillow.[/QUOTE]I don't know if that is the best policy. Aside from making it rather uncomfortable, you risk accidentally firing the thing.
Hah, these fucking bills, man... [editline]9th January 2012[/editline] We've already got our hands full with NDAA and SOPA/PIPA, but god damn they keep pulling this stuff out of their asses. [editline]9th January 2012[/editline] A part of me was curious about how it'd be to live in the US, but that part of me has been stripped of its citizenship and detained by all my other parts :v: [sp]huehuehue EEA jokes[/sp]
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