• Top Gear 'slope' comment broke broadcasting rules, says Ofcom
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[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;45528232]For the guy who rated me dumb [url]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_(U.S._TV_series)[/url][/QUOTE] You must not be aware that not only do they broadcast the British version here as well, but its obvious that he wasn't talking about Top Gear America.
This shit is still going?
[QUOTE=Gentry;45527743]I know a lot of people don't know mong is a racial slur too it doesn't stop it being a pretty awful word to use on two accounts Ignorance is a pretty flimsy defense in most cases[/QUOTE] and ignoring the entirety of my argument to hit on one tiny point is a pretty flimsy defense too. [editline]28th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;45527753]More people are offended by something than actually report it; I don't know the exact ratio, but far more than two people thought this was racist, that's why OFCOM has paid so much attention to it. That aside, they kinda have to investigate claims of racism. It does seem ridiculous, but this is what they're paid to do. A racial slur was used to refer to someone of that race. That's racism. It'd be racist even if no one had complained. This is coming from someone who likes Clarkson, too. I'm just sick of hearing people shit themselves in the name of [I]political correctness gone mad![/I][/QUOTE] what was the damage of this joke? A double entente use of a word? What harm was there? How were vietnamiese people injured or endangered by this comment? It was not a comment of hate, it does not pass judgement or call for action of any sort, it is in the simplest terms a play on words. I just ask because people seem to have such concrete notions of what is and isn't right on such a subjective basis.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45528679]and ignoring the entirety of my argument to hit on one tiny point is a pretty flimsy defense too. [editline]28th July 2014[/editline] what was the damage of this joke? A double entente use of a word? What harm was there? How were vietnamiese people injured or endangered by this comment? It was not a comment of hate, it does not pass judgement or call for action of any sort, it is in the simplest terms a play on words. I just ask because people seem to have such concrete notions of what is and isn't right on such a subjective basis.[/QUOTE] lmao stop being such a armchair linguistic slope doesn't mean anything other than a racial slur in that context. There is absolutely nothing subjective about reducing an entire group of people to the supposed shape of their eyes. Just because the script writers were too dumb to realize it doesn't mean it isn't a racial slur.
except it was just lighthearted humor and in no way was a serious case of racism the top gear presenters rarely have anything bad to say about the countries they visit and their culture, and are extremely respectful and courteous to the locals it's no worse than the average humor if you walk in to a pub on any given evening
[QUOTE=Gentry;45529183]lmao stop being such a armchair linguistic slope doesn't mean anything other than a racial slur in that context. There is absolutely nothing subjective about reducing an entire group of people to the supposed shape of their eyes. Just because the script writers were too dumb to realize it doesn't mean it isn't a racial slur.[/QUOTE] so he can't POSSIBLY refer to a slope(angled) bridge? The word slope can ONLY be used in a racist connotation? No, how about you actually argue with someone like a grown up rather than whatever you call this. "Armchair linguistic" like no one can legitimately be curious about fucking language because you say so. [editline]28th July 2014[/editline] I mean you keep saying you're right, without anything to back that up, so you MUST be right? right?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45529375]so he can't POSSIBLY refer to a slope(angled) bridge? The word slope can ONLY be used in a racist connotation?[/QUOTE] [B]because the shows producer came out and said directly Clarkson was referring to the Asian man as a slope.[/B] That was the entire joke - why it was wrote for the show. The word play. Asian slope, bridge slope. haha. [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs[/URL] [editline]29th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Noss;45529325]except it was just lighthearted humor and in no way was a serious case of racism[/QUOTE] of course its not a serious case of racism but to pretend its not a racial slur is dumb
[QUOTE=Gentry;45529441][B]because the shows producer came out and said directly Clarkson was referring to the Asian man as a slope.[/B] That was the entire joke - why it was wrote for the show. The word play. Asian slope, bridge slope. haha. [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs[/URL] [editline]29th July 2014[/editline][/QUOTE] I know full well about that. That's why I've been saying it's a double ententre and word play. Why is that by definition wrong? [QUOTE] of course its not a serious case of racism but to pretend its not a racial slur is dumb[/QUOTE] Then why do you make this out to be such a big deal? A joke was had at someone's expense in a neutral way. No one was disparaged. No one was hurt or trivialized. Why is it a big deal to have this joke exist? Do you point out EVERY joke that could be offensive? If not, why this one? Why does THIS one deserve it? And if you do point out every joke, no one can ever have any sort of humour around you can they? All humour is at SOMEONE's expense. No one's saying out right this isn't a racial slur. I didn't even say that if you paid attention. I'm saying why does the existence of a joke at someone's expense automatically make it terrible?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45528679] what was the damage of this joke? A double entente use of a word? What harm was there? How were vietnamiese people injured or endangered by this comment? It was not a comment of hate, it does not pass judgement or call for action of any sort, it is in the simplest terms a play on words. I just ask because people seem to have such concrete notions of what is and isn't right on such a subjective basis.[/QUOTE] Who said there was harm? People were questioning whether or not it was a racist comment, and it [I]was[/I]. It was a racist slur being (deliberately, according to the producers) directed at an asian man. That's racist; it breaks broadcasting rules. I think this entire thing has been blown out of proportion, but it was racist.
If something is offensive, and that means it cannot be used in a joke, then who determined that? If any and all jokes are at someones expense, then clearly, no jokes can be told? I'm confused
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45529509]If something is offensive, and that means it cannot be used in a joke, then who determined that? If any and all jokes are at someones expense, then clearly, no jokes can be told? I'm confused[/QUOTE] are you one of those posters who defended blackface comedy months ago this argument is awfully familiar but if you want a literal answer. Broadcasting rules are in place to prevent even casual racism.
No I didn't I get the broadcasting rules. I don't get people attacking clarkson or the joke or the existence of potentially offensive language.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45529588]No I didn't I get the broadcasting rules. I don't get people attacking clarkson or the joke or the existence of potentially offensive language.[/QUOTE] but would you extend that argument to defend other potentially offensive racial ~jokes~ on state tax funded daytime TV?
I just said I "got the broadcasting rules". It's the extenuating talks I'm discussing.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;45523683]I literally only know about the term 'slope' as an offensive word referring to an Asian person because of Apocalypse Now, so that should say something. [B]I didn't even know 'Oriental' was offensive to American-Asians until like, last year.[/B][/QUOTE] And I didn't know that till just right now. God damn.
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