Rand Paul Wants To Cut $500 billion By Cutting Defense, Shutting Down Education Dept.
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[QUOTE=Prismatex;27551366]So you're saying that selfishness is the mark of a great man?[/QUOTE]
You didn't expect that?
[QUOTE=Strider*;27551579]You didn't expect that?[/QUOTE]
I guess I should have, coming from you.
you know, if you're looking for a libertarian paradise you should move to somalia
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27551727]I guess I should have, coming from you.[/QUOTE]
You most likely have a flawed view of what selfishness really is.
Hence your obvious disapproval.
[QUOTE=Strider*;27551771]You most likely have a flawed view of what selfishness really is.
Hence your obvious disapproval.[/QUOTE]
Please enlighten me.
:allears:
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;27551749]you know, if you're looking for a libertarian paradise you should move to somalia[/QUOTE]
Yes I should go join a country based on Shari'a law shouldn't I?
I'm not looking for a "libertarian paradise".
I'm looking for a new society that respects and does not demonize reason, greatness, and freedom.
[editline]20th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27551836]Please enlighten me.
:allears:[/QUOTE]
Well what do you think it means?
:allears:
[QUOTE=Strider*;27551861]Yes I should go join a country based on Shari'a law shouldn't I?
I'm not looking for a "libertarian paradise".
I'm looking for a new society that respects and does not demonize reason, greatness, and freedom.[/QUOTE]
There's that "greatness" again.
Stop calling selfishness greatness; it makes you look like an ass.
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27551836]Please enlighten me.
:allears:[/QUOTE]
Well what do you think it means?
:allears:
[QUOTE=Strider*;27551886]Well what do you think it means?
:allears:[/QUOTE]
Selfishness? Acting [b]solely[/b] in one's self-interest with no regard for others.
[QUOTE=Strider*;27551861]Yes I should go join a country based on Shari'a law shouldn't I?
I'm not looking for a "libertarian paradise".
I'm looking for a new society that respects and does not demonize reason, greatness, and freedom.
[editline]20th January 2011[/editline]
Well what do you think it means?
:allears:[/QUOTE]
I think you mean a society that doesn't demonize selfishness.
nope i'm pretty sure it's selflessness that makes a person great. I mean you can disagree with me if you wanna, and if you want to go on a crusade to convince virtually every culture in the world that their historical depictions and mythologies filled with self-sacrificing heroes are fundamentally flawed and that, actually, they should honor and revere people who were total dicks instead, that's fine by me. Good luck on that though, you'll need it
[editline]20th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27551906]Selfishness? Acting [B]solely[/B] in one's self-interest with no regard for others.[/QUOTE]
randroids like to deny one of the basic truths about humanity: that we are biologically hardwired to feel empathy for and care about our fellow human beings. Selfishness is contradictory to human nature and human survival because the prosperity of the human race was founded on collaboration. If ancient man did not form tribes and make sacrifices for their tribes, we'd all still be living in the forest.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;27552029]nope i'm pretty sure it's selflessness that makes a person great. I mean you can disagree with me if you wanna, and if you want to go on a crusade to convince virtually every culture in the world that their historical depictions and mythologies filled with self-sacrificing heroes are fundamentally flawed and that, actually, they should honor and revere people who were total dicks instead, that's fine by me. Good luck on that though, you'll need it
[editline]20th January 2011[/editline]
randroids like to deny one of the basic truths about humanity: that we are biologically hardwired to feel empathy for and care about our fellow human beings. Selfishness is contradictory to human nature and human survival because the prosperity of the human race was founded on collaboration. If ancient man did not form tribes and make sacrifices for their tribes, we'd all still be living in the forest.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much this.
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27551906]Selfishness? Acting [b]solely[/b] in one's self-interest with no regard for others.[/QUOTE]
No regard for others?
Being selfish does not mean you can't help out someone in need.
It means yes.. always acting first in your own interest.
[QUOTE=Strider*;27552527]No regard for others?
Being selfish does not mean you can't help out someone in need.
It means yes.. always acting first in your own interest.[/QUOTE]
No, being selfish may not mean that you [b]can't[/b] help someone, it just means that you [b]won't[/b].
[QUOTE=Strider*;27552527]No regard for others?
Being selfish does not mean you can't help out someone in need.[/QUOTE]
yes it does. that's the definition of selfishness. If you believe people should help other people out, then you don't believe in selfishness
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;27552029]nope i'm pretty sure it's selflessness that makes a person great. I mean you can disagree with me if you wanna, and if you want to go on a crusade to convince virtually every culture in the world that their historical depictions and mythologies filled with self-sacrificing heroes are fundamentally flawed and that, actually, they should honor and revere people who were total dicks instead, that's fine by me. Good luck on that though, you'll need it
[editline]20th January 2011[/editline]
randroids like to deny one of the basic truths about humanity: that we are biologically hardwired to feel empathy for and care about our fellow human beings. Selfishness is contradictory to human nature and human survival because the prosperity of the human race was founded on collaboration. If ancient man did not form tribes and make sacrifices for their tribes, we'd all still be living in the forest.[/QUOTE]
How does being selfish make you a "total dick"?
You can believe we are biologically hardwired to care about others but you can't prove the claim that it is necessary or that we are even hardwired to sacrifice ourselves for other people.
If it weren't for SELFISHNESS we would still be living in the forest stop trying to ignore reality.
If it weren't for SELFISHNESS we would never have gotten out of the dark ages.
If it weren't for SELFISHNESS we would never be living in the standards we have now.
[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;27552651]yes it does. that's the definition of selfishness. If you believe people should help other people out, then you don't believe in selfishness[/QUOTE]
Selfishness means living for yourself not for other people.
It does NOT mean not helping others if that's one of your values.
[QUOTE=Strider*;27552657]How does being selfish make you a "total dick"?
You can believe we are biologically hardwired to care about others but you can't prove the claim that it is necessary or that we are even hardwired to sacrifice ourselves for other people.
If it weren't for SELFISHNESS we would still be living in the forest stop trying to ignore reality.
If it weren't for SELFISHNESS we would never have gotten out of the dark ages.
If it weren't for SELFISHNESS we would never be living in the standards we have now.
[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]
Haha you have proven you are ignorant of the term.
Selfishness means living for yourself not for other people.
It does NOT mean not helping others if that's one of your values.[/QUOTE]
If it weren't for selfishness, things like child labor or preposterous working conditions in industrial America would not have been a problem.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;27552698]If it weren't for selfishness, things like child labor or preposterous working conditions in industrial America would not have been a problem.[/QUOTE]
Do you think child labor didn't exist before selfishness or industry?
We were able to get rid of child labor because of our increased productivity after industrialization.
[QUOTE=Strider*;27552774]Do you think child labor didn't exist before selfishness or industry?
We were able to get rid of child labor because of our increased productivity after industrialization.[/QUOTE]
Or people outlawed it
[QUOTE=Habsburg;27552812]Or people outlawed it[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was this. Strikes helped too.
[QUOTE=Strider*;27538186]You argument about the industrial revolution is ridiculous because our standards of living today aren't because of government legislation but rather the industrialization you deem as so horrible.
Would you help a poor person see a doctor if they were desperately in need, you had the ability, and there was no government system for them to consult?[/QUOTE]
federal regulation is the reason your food isn't processed in factories where rats and fingers are routinely grinded into the meat
[QUOTE=Strider*;27550301]How the same thing that happened to China?
Look at the standards of Hong Kong and then the rest of China and you will answer your own question.
Guess which one is more capitalist?
[/QUOTE]
So explain exactly why chinease sweat shops happen and why it wont happen in america.
Really what is stopping walmart and other big name companies from doing the same thing they do in other countries to us?
this is indisputable fact
[editline]20th January 2011[/editline]
you broke my automerge
[QUOTE=Strider*;27552774]Do you think child labor didn't exist before selfishness or industry?
We were able to get rid of child labor because of our increased productivity after industrialization.[/QUOTE]
bro im pretty sure selfishness came into existence at about the same point labor itself did
[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;27552859]Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was this. Strikes helped too.[/QUOTE]
DONT TREAD ON ME VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLAR
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oZ9yWqO4[/media]
if anyone agrees with this you can kill yourself
really there would be nothing from stopping companies from either paying people the least amount they can or replacing them with machines in a rand world.
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well lazor you broke mine. DAM YOU ANTI-SPIRAL
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;27552982]bro im pretty sure selfishness came into existence at about the same point labor itself did
[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]
DONT TREAD ON ME VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLAR
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oZ9yWqO4[/media]
if anyone agrees with this you can kill yourself[/QUOTE]
I was agreeing with Habsburg.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;27552982][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oZ9yWqO4[/media]
if anyone agrees with this you can kill yourself[/QUOTE]
Howard Roark is definitely heroic.
[QUOTE=Strider*;27553378]Howard Roark is definitely heroic.[/QUOTE]
Just stop.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;27553435]Just stop.[/QUOTE]
Stop what?
My campaign for rational enlightenment and freedom?
You would be against that, you're the collectivist.
[QUOTE=Strider*;27553651]Stop what?
My campaign for rational enlightenment and freedom?
You would be against that, you're the collectivist.[/QUOTE]
No im a commie but thats besides the point.
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