• ISIS burns 2 Turkish soldiers alive, releases video online
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How strange to see depraved, savage acts of terrorism split up by HD YouTube style editing
[QUOTE=Bertie;51572447]Why castration? Just take them to a court, accuse them of being part of an extremist genocidal terrorist organization, and hang them.[/QUOTE]That's not harsh enough. Cut their balls send them to prison for a month then execute them by pulling out their intestines. These aren't people we're dealing with here.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;51572942]That's not harsh enough. Cut their balls send them to prison for a month then execute them by pulling out their intestines. These aren't people we're dealing with here.[/QUOTE] We're meant to be better than them though, why should we be as savage as them?
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;51572942]That's not harsh enough. Cut their balls send them to prison for a month then execute them by pulling out their intestines. These aren't people we're dealing with here.[/QUOTE]you're giving them the reaction they want. leave the drawn-out shit to the terrorists and just shoot them. cold, efficient, one could even argue cheap.
[QUOTE=IAreLegend;51572856]How strange to see depraved, savage acts of terrorism split up by HD YouTube style editing[/QUOTE] It's strange isn't it? Either way, when it came time for the main event... I couldn't watch it. Fuck curiosity, I just couldn't subject myself to this.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51572130]I don't understand how the people doing it live with themselves. Surely they must know they are absolutely 100% doing utterly terrible things. It's like they take delight from pain and misery.[/QUOTE] They are doing it because the man in the sky told them to, you can't try to find logic or reason in that tbh
I watched the video. I wasnt feeling uneasy at all. All I felt was pure rage. I seriously hope hell rains down upon them all.
[QUOTE=Butthurter;51573072]its literally against everything in islam to torture anyone, especially prisoners of war what the hell you smokin[/QUOTE] plus studies have proven that most people joining isis aren't even doing so because of islamic beliefs, but rather looking for things like social status, the "thrill" of war, or just plain psychopathy.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51572973]you're giving them the reaction they want. leave the drawn-out shit to the terrorists and just shoot them. cold, efficient, one could even argue cheap.[/QUOTE]They want to have their balls cut off?
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;51573083]They want to have their balls cut off?[/QUOTE] Masochistic ISIS
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;51573083]They want to have their balls cut off?[/QUOTE]don't be such an idiot the entire point of terrorism is to shake the opposition emotionally, that's why the word "Terror" is there. some people get scared, some get mad. i'm not going to launch into a full-fledged rant about preserving our values or being the bigger person or not stooping to their level or what the hell ever, but our response, as far as i care, should be without any extra brutality where it isn't necessary. they're an enemy that really needs to go, so kill them and be done with it. anything more is a waste of time and energy.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51572139]Are you seriously just questioning this now? They are all a bunch of indoctrinated mentally fucked psychopathic militants.[/QUOTE] What we can't comprehend is how do ordinary people become indoctrinated mentally fucked up psychopathic militants. And the scary part is we don't know what stops people like ourselves becoming evil like that. Incidents like [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse]Abu Ghraib's prisoner abuse[/url] remind us that there could be less between us and them than we think.
Also, for some reason people think that the Kurds aren't Muslims (????). The majority of Kurdi's are Sunni Muslims, with very few being Christians, and the rest being of syncretic religions (usually taking many parts of other Islamic denominations). Don't know where your argument about that was, Trilby. But it was a poorly conceived one. It's been widely accepted by researchers, studying terrorism and/or the issues surrounding the Middle East, that the influx of Islamic terrorism is not because of the religion (though it may seem like it, because idiots like to simply see it as a black and white issue; Islamic terrorism --> driving component is Islam, when it simply isn't that simple), but rather the geopolitical conflict that has occurred ever since European interventionism from the early 1900's up until the hasty creation of the state of Israel. Men who have nowhere to go, who have no idea where there future entails in the crushing poverty that exists in the Middle East, become indoctrinated into the IS and many other terrorist groups' ideologies, and thus are befallen into radicalization. Or, in places like Europe, where regular people become entrenched into the beliefs of Islamists, because yet again, they're downtrodden and believe they have nowhere else to go. Take this excerpt from Fresh Air, a podcast I've been listening quite a bit to: [QUOTE]His story for joining ISIS is very similar to that of thousands of others. He had veered off-course in his life. He was involved in petty crime. He had recently gotten caught stealing money out of a safe from a supermarket in Germany and ended up having to spend a one-year sentence in jail. And in jail, he meets a hardcore Islamist who was serving a terrorism sentence. He becomes radicalized through this man. And when he comes out, he begins to think that Syria with the Islamic State - this black and white ideology - that this might provide the framework that he needs to basically stay out of trouble and lead what he thought would be a holy life. Of course, he goes to Syria. And within not much time, he realizes the grave error he had made.[/QUOTE] I'd pull out more sources, but I'm not currently at home. Look up researchers such as Robert Pape (a personal favorite, superb person). You'll be rather surprised that most terrorist attacks, whether or not they involve a man yelling "Allahu Akbar" (for which the majority of non-Muslims in the West have no real idea what it really means), are almost always of a secular goal.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51572729]Most wars and conflicts can be reduced to a fight over resources [/QUOTE] This is flatly untrue. Incorrectly reduced to, perhaps. Resources can be a motivating factor but wars exist without. Name a war where a clash of ideology was not present. It is the father of conflict.
They aren't people. They are pure monsters.
[QUOTE=Nanori;51573189]They aren't people. They are pure monsters.[/QUOTE] They are people though. Just the kind of people you don't talk to and don't take them prisoners when they surrender. I agree with Joazzz here, no excessive violence is due, no torture or anything, just straight up methodically killing them, each and every one, is the solution. The kind of solution SDF has been carrying out with some success for some time now.
[QUOTE=Omilinon;51573165] I'd pull out more sources, but I'm not currently at home. Look up researchers such as Robert Pape (a personal favorite, superb person). You'll be rather surprised that most terrorist attacks, whether or not they involve a man yelling "Allahu Akbar" (for which the majority of non-Muslims in the West have no real idea what it really means), are almost always of a secular goal.[/QUOTE] What does Allahu Akbar mean besides God is Greatest? I haven't found anything besides that. It's used a lot of different ways, but the meaning doesn't change. Also Fresh Air is fantastic. NPR is so refreshing after flipping between partisan networks. What a horrific video. If it brings and solace, you can pretty much rest assured that we'll see the perpetrators in that video filthy and dead on the ground surrounded by a bunch of Kurds in some future video like all of the other ISIS executioners we've seen.
[QUOTE=Inspector N;51573171]This is flatly untrue. Incorrectly reduced to, perhaps. Resources can be a motivating factor but wars exist without. Name a war where a clash of ideology was not present. It is the father of conflict.[/QUOTE] The general crisis (a series of conflicts and unrests including english civil war, 30 years war, ming dynasty collapse) coincided with the "little ice age" which saw a a global drop in temperature, a global drop in food production and, it is theorised, a global drop in stability. Sorry I gotta scoot now, ill add more wars over resources later. Its a theory but I believe it to be a true theory. The ideology is a symptom rather than a cause, correlation and causation and all that. cheerio
Had to watch some videos of these guys French kissing some JDAMS and swallowing some 50 cal rounds to feel better after that, what an awful video.
[QUOTE=Matthew0505;51573128]Why not just use thermobaric bombs instead of this weird sexual shit?[/QUOTE]Because the thought of weird sexual shit will make their heads explode with rage and disgust, to the point they'll get careless and fuck up.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;51573230]What does Allahu Akbar mean besides God is Greatest? I haven't found anything besides that. It's used a lot of different ways, but the meaning doesn't change. [/QUOTE] أعظم = Greatest (azim) أكبر = Greater (akbar) كبير = Great (kebir) That's the difference. The usage depends on the situation at hand. The "level of greatness" depends on what's currently happening. But you're correct, the meaning in the end doesn't really change.
[QUOTE=Omilinon;51573276]شَديد = Greatest (azim) [/QUOTE] Just to correct you, that says shadeed, not azim. Copy and pasted wrong?
[QUOTE=Aman;51573289]Just to correct you, that says shadeed, not azim. Copy and pasted wrong?[/QUOTE] Whoops! My bad. You're correct, thank you.
[QUOTE=Nanori;51573189]They aren't people. They are pure monsters.[/QUOTE]wrong, they're both. they're people who have let the monster that's inside all of us come out. it's easy to dehumanize them completely to feel better about ourselves. everyone does that, it's an almost subconscious thing. but the same cruelty can be found in all humans, and it's just waiting for a chance to come out through ideology, faith or other circumstance. they're terrible beings, but don't say they aren't people, because then you're just lying to yourself.
[QUOTE=tomatmann;51572704]what i do not get is why does this look like it was edited by professionals? i've read some conspiracy theories about this. [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2865745/Has-EXACT-location-infamous-ISIS-beheading-video-pinpointed-Forensic-analysis-filmed-Syrian-soldier-murders-breaks-filmed-long-took-cost-make.html[/url][/QUOTE] $200 000? I'm not sure about that. More like $5000-$7000 in equipment if I were to guess. I spot: - Canon 600D/700D/60D/70D cameras (any of these, hard to tell) - A tamron 24-70 lens it would seem. Probably other basic lenses too, doubt they went for Cine lenses for their APS-C cameras. - Common videomics. - A large swingarm tripod kinda thing. (perhaps the most expensive thing) - And do you really think terrorist are gonna pay for editing software? :v:
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51573352]wrong, they're both. they're people who have let the monster that's inside all of us come out. it's easy to dehumanize them completely to feel better about ourselves. everyone does that, it's an almost subconscious thing. but the same cruelty can be found in all humans, and it's just waiting for a chance to come out through ideology, faith or other circumstance. they're terrible beings, but don't say they aren't people, because then you're just lying to yourself.[/QUOTE]No, they were born to be cruel and scary: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy[/url]
[QUOTE=tomatmann;51572704]what i do not get is why does this look like it was edited by professionals? i've read some conspiracy theories about this. [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2865745/Has-EXACT-location-infamous-ISIS-beheading-video-pinpointed-Forensic-analysis-filmed-Syrian-soldier-murders-breaks-filmed-long-took-cost-make.html[/url][/QUOTE] part of the reason that ISIS is so successful is because they've mastered social media use. they make tons of youtube videos already, with all the money they have, they can afford to tell Muhammad to sit down and learn how to edit in Premiere
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;51573464]No, they were born to be cruel and scary: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy[/url][/QUOTE] So you're saying that 100% of the ISIS fighters have psychopathy?
Every ISIS member that's caught should end up beaten almost to death, given time to heal, then burnt alive. These fucking animals don't deserve any mercy.
[QUOTE=Fantastical]Every ISIS member that's caught should end up beaten almost to death, given time to heal, then burnt alive. These fucking animals don't deserve any mercy.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Robochimp]That's not harsh enough. Cut their balls send them to prison for a month then execute them by pulling out their intestines. These aren't people we're dealing with here. [/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/fD3XR6b.png[/IMG]
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