SOURCE: [url]http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/08/anonymous-hacks-syrian-ministry-defense-website/40936/[/url]
[quote]Hacking group Anonymous has taken over the website for the Syrian Ministry of Defense as of midnight Sunday evening. Friday evening the group hacked the websites and emails of over 70 police forces across the U.S. The website shows a mock up Anonymous' logo of the faceless man in a suit in the middle of the Syrian flag. A message to the Syrian people types itself out across the screen in English and in Arabic:
To the Syrian people: The world stands with you against the brutal regime of Bashar Al-Assad. Know that time and history are on your side - tyrants use violence because they have nothing else, and the more violent they are, the more fragile they become. We salute your determination to be non-violent in the face of the regime’s brutality, and admire your willingness to pursue justice, not mere revenge. All tyrants will fall, and thanks to your bravery Bashar Al-Assad is next.
To the Syrian military: You are responsible for protecting the Syrian people, and anyone who orders you to kill women, children, and the elderly deserves to be tried for treason. No outside enemy could do as much damage to Syria as Bashar Al-Assad has done. Defend your country - rise up against the regime!
Links appear at the bottom of the page to the Syrian Revolution Facebook page, the Shaam News Network, the SNN Youtube account, the SNN Facebook page, the Movement For Justice & Development, the Syrian Free Press Facebook page, the Syrian Uprising Facebook page, the F.N.N. Facebook page, the Monitoring Protests in Syria NGO Facebook page, the Al Jazeera Syria liveblog, the Syrian Interpreter Youtube account, Amnesty International, and finally for a chat room (#operationfreedom) no one was participating in at press time.
The top of the page becomes a stream of Youtube links to videos of soldiers declaring their defections, or of images of the destruction and turmoil in Hama and other distressed cities. The hack came only hours after the Syrian military attacked Deir al-Zour, a rebel controlled city, and killed "dozens" and thousands more fled the city, The New York Times reports. The website, when fully loaded, looked like this: [img]http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2011/08/08/Screen%20shot%202011-08-08%20at%2012.44.31%20AM.png[/img][/quote]
Here's the site: [url]http://mod.gov.sy/[/url]
Yes, and this is going to stop them rolling tanks into cities.
If anything they probably just pissed them off more.
It seems like they do this a lot and they don't realize that it doesn't really do anything.
It doesn't do nothing, it gets reported via news like the New York Times and spreads the much needed word across the globe as to the problems there. So the more publicity this gets the more international pressure the Syrian leader will get. so all in all this is just another stepping stone in a long river crossing so help Syria in the years to come.
At least they are trying to be constructive...
Uh... Why?
Because of the violent government? Is hacking going to solve anything, ever?
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;31602105]Uh... Why?
Because of the violent government? Is hacking going to solve anything, ever?[/QUOTE]
Raise awareness of the world backing them in an otherwise media controlled state.
This isnt going to have a huge impact but its something.
Anonymous... they are such a joke.
I'm.... okay with this.
If anyone but anonymous was doing this I'd support it.
omg they reset it to 0!!
Im pretty sure they did this because they can't actually hack the US goverment like they say they can, but they go after smaller ones so they look like they still have power to do it, but If I were one of those people, I would just stop living in my mother's basement and go get a job.
if only they did not put their "signature logo" in the center and instead put something useful then maybe it might do some good. Syrian govt took the site down anyways so it did nothing to begin with.
[QUOTE=Reimu;31602431]If anyone but anonymous was doing this I'd support it.[/QUOTE]
Then you're an idiot. They may have a bad reputation, but in some cases they do have a conscience. They've done something constructive to raise awareness of events that a lot of people know nothing of. Credit where credit's due.
At least they're spreading awareness.
Here me out, the only way Anonymous could be useful is to gather donations or use stolen cc's to fund a insurgency. They could pay a cheap ass fishermen to take them to Syria illegally. Purchase cheap surplus soviet rifles from early cold war age and ambush Syrian forces. This is about the only possible thing they could do. Even then I bet they would be be to pussy to be a insurgent, or their mommies and daddies would not let them kill Syrian forces.
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;31597874]Yes, and this is going to stop them rolling tanks into cities.[/QUOTE]
It gives morale to the people who see it and keeps the Syrian situation fresh in the news
[QUOTE=Someoneuduno;31602483]Then you're an idiot. They may have a bad reputation, but in some cases they do have a conscience. They've done something constructive to raise awareness of events that a lot of people know nothing of. Credit where credit's due.[/QUOTE]
Oh yes, Anonymous raises awareness of world situations. I mean, why don't they get a TV channel and they could talk about it... report on it. They could even call it the News... oh wait.
Compared to even the smallest news agencies they don't do as much to raise "awareness" as you'd think. Hardly anybody outside of the internet knows what anonymous is. The reason you probably say what you did is because you bought into what they say. They come off as a "huge organization of hackers liberating the world" but honestly NOBODY except Facepunch users and other Internet regulars know what anonymous is.
I have never heard anything about these anonymous attacks outside of Facepunch. They don't impact as much as people let on.
[QUOTE=Mr. Sun;31602616]Oh yes, Anonymous raises awareness of world situations. I mean, why don't they get a TV channel and they could talk about it... report on it. They could even call it the News... oh wait.
Compared to even the smallest news agencies they don't do as much to raise "awareness" as you'd think. Hardly anybody outside of the internet knows what anonymous is. The reason you probably say what you did is because you bought into what they say. They come off as a "huge organization of hackers liberating the world" but honestly NOBODY except Facepunch users and other Internet regulars know what anonymous is.
I have never heard anything about these anonymous attacks outside of Facepunch. They don't impact as much as people let on.[/QUOTE]
They've raised awareness in the sense that their stance isn't based on politics but morals. The Syrian government has done a lot to limit outside flow of information on the events taking place and I see nothing wrong with admitting that a small organisation with limited power has done something admirable.
The reason few people have great awareness is because generally they are only blamed for things on the news, eg. defending Julian Assange etc. They aren't widely known because they are barely even an organisation. Internet regulars know more of them because they witnessed them come to be which basically goes without saying.
[QUOTE=Someoneuduno;31602483]Then you're an idiot. They may have a bad reputation, but in some cases they do have a conscience. They've done something constructive to raise awareness of events that a lot of people know nothing of. Credit where credit's due.[/QUOTE]
Does it make it right for a celebrity to champion giving aid to a slightly well-known charity if it's simply for his or her own selfish desires? Don't get me wrong, it's nice that they're doing something, but who's going to give a shit if the person is an asshole in the first place?
Keep in mind also that things like this WON'T make a huge splash in the media. Syria isn't something people aren't aware of, it's something a lot of people unfortunately just don't care about in the end. It will remind people as a side note in news broadcasts at the most.
[editline]8th August 2011[/editline]
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The reason few people have great awareness is because generally they are only blamed for things on the news, eg. defending Julian Assange etc. They aren't widely known because they are barely even an organisation. Internet regulars know more of them because they witnessed them come to be which basically goes without saying.[/QUOTE]
The reason why they aren't on the news is because they don't do anything newsworthy unless create drama now and then. Generally speaking they aren't the ones sniffing out the information, they're the ones hopping on the bandwagon after some reporter or non-Anon points it out. And it's somewhat rare that they actually bring a serious issue to light. It's usually crimes and, at most, felonies.
[QUOTE=Super Saiyan Yerbs;31598897]It doesn't do nothing, it gets reported via news like the New York Times and spreads the much needed word across the globe as to the problems there. So the more publicity this gets the more international pressure the Syrian leader will get. so all in all this is just another stepping stone in a long river crossing so help Syria in the years to come.[/QUOTE]
like that matters. Syria has no resources for us, why would we go in? Libya on the otherhand...
Why not do thing like this instead of releasing lists of police snitches!?!?
[QUOTE=joe588;31605591]like that matters. Syria has no resources for us, why would we go in? Libya on the otherhand...[/QUOTE]
And no offense, but people are probably much more worried about S&P and the US's economic future than Arab Spring.
This is really, really bad timing publicity-speaking. Anonymous should've waited a little longer to assure they had a good opening in the news.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;31605658]Why not do thing like this instead of releasing lists of police snitches!?!?[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I guess these are the people who hacked Sony and not the ones releasing government data. They must be different "groups" of "Anon" but that doesn't even make sense. I can't see the people who hacked sony because of the raids releasing police info, but I can see them doing this act.
Just my opinion though.
[QUOTE=Reimu;31604167]Does it make it right for a celebrity to champion giving aid to a slightly well-known charity if it's simply for his or her own selfish desires? Don't get me wrong, it's nice that they're doing something, but who's going to give a shit if the person is an asshole in the first place?
[/Quote] Don't look a gift horse in the mouth as the saying goes, they may not be the most popular organisation but I think it'd be foolish to disregard the positive influence their actions could have purely because of stigma against them.
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Keep in mind also that things like this WON'T make a huge splash in the media. Syria isn't something people aren't aware of, it's something a lot of people unfortunately just don't care about in the end. It will remind people as a side note in news broadcasts at the most.
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I know it won't make a huge splash because it seemingly isn't as big as an issue as it should perhaps be. As for people not caring I truly hope you're wrong for sanity's sake.
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The reason why they aren't on the news is because they don't do anything newsworthy unless create drama now and then. Generally speaking they aren't the ones sniffing out the information, they're the ones hopping on the bandwagon after some reporter or non-Anon points it out. And it's somewhat rare that they actually bring a serious issue to light. It's usually crimes and, at most, felonies.[/QUOTE]
Hopping on the bandwagon is what makes things well known. And I'd argue that the issue in Syria is a serious matter.
[QUOTE=Someoneuduno;31607490]Don't look a gift horse in the mouth as the saying goes, they may not be the most popular organisation but I think it'd be foolish to disregard the positive influence their actions could have purely because of stigma against them.[/quote]
Well, first off, the fact I don't support them is more of a personal dislike for them, personal reasons, etc. In all seriousness though, I don't think Anonymous is the best vehicle for social change because of their motivations. While it isn't necessarily bad that they are trying to cause an uproar about a corrupt government, I think there's much better ways to do it. I don't trust that Anonymous's heart is in the Syrian conflict so much that it's a fun way to dick with the "big dogs," and to stroke their own egos. I personally believe tools like twitter, facebook, etc. which give a more personal edge to the topic are the greater vehicle for social change, and are much more positive focuses overall. I think trusting and supporting anonymous is only going to cause people to be disheartened, because Anonymous aren't activists with a strong sense of personal connection to Syria. Most of the talk which they posted on the Syrian government's website is just fluff.
[quote]I know it won't make a huge splash because it seemingly isn't as big as an issue as it should perhaps be. As for people not caring I truly hope you're wrong for sanity's sake.[/quote]
In the end of the day it's just people are desensitized to something that's going on nearly 1/2 a globe away from them. I mean, it happens here too with issues that are just miles away from them. No one in the US cares much about WikiLeaks; very relatively few people have even read WikiLeaks articles or so much as given the PATRIOT act a read through. People don't even know what the Sedition Acts were.
[quote]Hopping on the bandwagon is what makes things well known. And I'd argue that the issue in Syria is a serious matter.[/QUOTE]
Well, Syria obviously is a serious matter, but Anonymous weren't really the folks to break it.
Also, while hopping on the bandwagon helps, in the end of the day Anonymous will have a hard time breaking the media's typecasting of them because of the fact they don't appear to be out of the norm. I mean, to someone like you and me who's seen Anonymous first-hand, they're drastically different from things like your average joe on twitter. But to a newsreporter, they aren't really the sort of people to write news about, because of how questionable their impact can be on national or global issues. They seem like your average group of "hackers" who join to fight something due to a common ideology. Unless they're doing something controversial, there's a low extent of newsworthiness because of an inability to relate to them nor really find anything that makes them stand out to the average joe.
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