• Rick Perry picked for secretary of that one department he can't remember the name of... (Energy)
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[QUOTE=Sableye;51522728]civil servants have a form of tenurship, these fucks cant just walk in and clean out all the """"liberal"""" scientists, that said they have a large sway over the policy that each agency will enact[/QUOTE] Well of course he can't just go in and be like "all the liburals are fired!" But the protections civil servants have don't protect you being a dick to your boss or any other sort of insubordination. While it is a longer process to have someone terminated, they aren't "protected" from being fired when they've actually done something unprofessional.
I can only hope that one of these picks subverts expectation and actually does a good job, but holy shit is this hope fading faster every day. In three years I may have a job throwing grenade-tipped spears at Russians who are trying to steal our guzzoline.
[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;51523266]I can only hope that one of these picks subverts expectation and actually does a good job, but holy shit is this hope fading faster every day. In three years I may have a job throwing grenade-tipped spears at Russians who are trying to steal our guzzoline.[/QUOTE] If things got that drastic people might actually strive for change. Instead it's just going to be another century of a slow, slow decline.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;51523240]Anyone that's actually from Texas knows that Perry did an outstanding job as Governor and saved us a ton of money. This is a really smart pick for Trump's goals, [B]because he wants to unleash oil and coal[/B]. Oil is big in Texas and I guarantee Perry has lots of experience with the matter, not that any of you care.[/QUOTE] There's your problem.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;51523240]Anyone that's actually from Texas knows that Perry did an outstanding job as Governor and saved us a ton of money. This is a really smart pick for Trump's goals, because he wants to unleash oil and coal. Oil is big in Texas and I guarantee Perry has lots of experience with the matter, not that any of you care.[/QUOTE] I'm from Texas, he's a cunt.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51522970]Loving the amount of Trump supporters who have told me they are completely shocked at the people he's picking for his cabinet. Did you fucking plug your ears during all of his rallies apart from when he said "drain the swamp", you fucking mongoloid?[/QUOTE] Jesus film we know you really hate trump you don't need to shit on his voters at every opportunity :v:
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;51523240]Oil is big in Texas and I guarantee Perry has lots of experience with the matter, not that any of you care.[/QUOTE] Someone who has a vested interest in oil and denies the existence of climate change, has no business heading the DoE. Even Bush realized this. Oil investments are a terrible long term strategy.
Donald Trump just grabbed the "but draining the swamp only meant career politicians not special interests" argument by the collar and tossed it off the fuckin roof. In an avalanche of bad picks this might actually be the worst
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51523673]Donald Trump just grabbed the "but draining the swamp only meant career politicians not special interests" argument by the collar and tossed it off the fuckin roof. In an avalanche of bad picks this might actually be the worst[/QUOTE] I'd say Rex Tillerson is worse. His relationship with Russia is a direct conflict of interest. He has directly gone against the interests of the US in Russia and Iraq, for the benefit of Exxon.
[QUOTE=rilez;51523698]I'd say Rex Tillerson is worse. His relationship with Russia is a direct conflict of interest. [B]He has directly gone against the interests of the US in Russia and Iraq, for the benefit of Exxon.[/B][/QUOTE] I hadn't read about that yet. When I mean bad picks I don't just mean the consequences for the nation but also in regards to how people will view Trump. His most ardent defenders have been working overtime to tell people that Trump never promised to stop special interests from reaching government, that his focus was always on career politicians. Up until now that has sort of been true but this appointment completely torpedoes that argument. He could have chosen any number of people from the private energy sector and yeah the left would rage against it but he could still maintain that thinly-veiled excuse for plutocracy but no longer. [editline]13th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=FinalHunter;51523240]Anyone that's actually from Texas knows that Perry did an outstanding job as Governor and saved us a ton of money. This is a really smart pick for Trump's goals, because he wants to unleash oil and coal. Oil is big in Texas and I guarantee Perry has lots of experience with the matter, not that any of you care.[/QUOTE] He has a lower approval rating than Obama according to polled Texans. It's still decent compared to other GOP Governors but outstanding is an exaggeration.
With each announcement of Trump's picks I get more and more shocked and angry that so many idiots actually voted this guy in It's just absurd
The most ironic pick possible. I'm expecting Trump will appoint a horse as Secretary of the Interior next.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51523774]The most ironic pick possible. I'm expecting Trump will appoint a horse as Secretary of the Interior next.[/QUOTE] "I thought you said SECRETARIAT of the interior"
First we have the CEO of Exxon Mobile as Secretary of State and now a dumb hick from Texas as Secretary of Energy. Have I entered an alternate reality?
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;51523753]With each announcement of Trump's picks I get more and more shocked and angry that so many idiots actually voted this guy in It's just absurd[/QUOTE] Off the top of my head there is that guy from Iowa who will probably make a good ambassador to China. Mattis seems like a good person but makes for an unconventional (not bad) SecDef pick. Ben Carson as Secretary of Housing because he is "passionate" but utterly unqualified for the position seems relatively fine. The rest of his picks are either special interests or career politicians who have little to no experience in their perspective roles in the cabinet. No wonder the people who advocated so hard for Trump are having such a difficult time explaining his appointments. I would have dipped out of this section too.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51523797]Off the top of my head there is that guy from Iowa who will probably make a good ambassador to China. Mattis seems like a good person but makes for an unconventional (not bad) SecDef pick. Ben Carson as Secretary of Housing because he is "passionate" but utterly unqualified for the position seems relatively fine. The rest of his picks are either special interests or career politicians who have little to no experience in their perspective roles in the cabinet. No wonder the people who advocated so hard for Trump are having such a difficult time explaining his appointments. I would have dipped out of this section too.[/QUOTE] Ben Carson is a weird pick because he said he didn't even want a cabinet position.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51523774]The most ironic pick possible. I'm expecting Trump will appoint a horse as Secretary of the Interior next.[/QUOTE] If it isn't Cliven Bundy or someone involved in the Dakota/Keystone pipeline negotiations I'll be really disappointed.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51523729]I hadn't read about that yet.[/QUOTE] He dealt with the Russian government and assisted them in drilling for oil in the Arctic, and continued to do so after sanctions were raised against them for the invasion of Ukraine. They have projects in Siberia worth billions that are tied up because of the sanctions... so it sure would be convenient if the CEO of Exxon and a President friendly towards Russia, made them go away. As for Iraq, Exxon signed an oil deal with Iraqi Kurdistan, going against the State Department to do so. They pissed off Baghdad in the process, because they were looking at disputed lands.
Oh I knew about the Russia thing, I made a comment in that thread about how curious it was that out of all the big oil CEO's he could have chose, he went with the guy that stands to make a shitload of money if those sanctions placed against Russia for annexing Crimea (which Trump doesn't recognize, what a coincidence!) were to be dropped. Didn't know about the deal in Iraq. Nevermind, you are right, that is quite clearly his worst pick.
Doesn't he drive a Model S? Maybe he'll do some good by encouraging people to buy EV's and shift us towards a electric future. [/optimistic]
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51524034]Doesn't he drive a Model S? Maybe he'll do some good by encouraging people to buy EV's and shift us towards a electric future. [/optimistic][/QUOTE] He [I]has driven[/i] a Tesla for a photo op, and was generally in favor of Tesla and of Elon Musks businesses, trying to get Tesla to build the Gigafactory in Texas, supporting Tesla vs. the Auto dealer associations battles, and supporting SpaceX in building a launch site in Texas. It doesn't mean ol' Rick is huge into clean technology. It just means he liked bringing business to Texas. Texas' energy policy was an "all of the above" approach, with most going to oil and gas, but with funding for wind, solar, and nuclear. Here is an overview of Rick's energy history during his tenure as Texas Governor from the Texas Tribune: [url]https://www.texastribune.org/2016/12/13/recap-rick-perrys-texas-energy-legacy/[/url] Basically: [Quote]"For us, wind development in Texas was never about climate change — it was about economic development and diversifying our portfolio," he said, adding that it "is nicely diversified at the moment with natural gas, wind, coal and nuclear."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OvB;51524165]He [I]has driven[/I] a Tesla for a photo op, and was generally in favor of Tesla and of Elon Musks businesses, trying to get Tesla to build the Gigafactory in Texas, supporting Tesla vs. the Auto dealer associations battles, and supporting SpaceX in building a launch site in Texas. It doesn't mean ol' Rick is huge into clean technology. It just means he liked bringing business to Texas. Texas' energy policy was an "all of the above" approach, with most going to oil and gas, but with funding for wind, solar, and nuclear. Here is an overview of Rick's energy history during his tenure as Texas Governor from the Texas Tribune: [URL]https://www.texastribune.org/2016/12/13/recap-rick-perrys-texas-energy-legacy/[/URL] Basically:[/QUOTE] Seems just slightly leaning towards oil to me,if not a little balanced. If convincing Trump that clean energy brings economic development and jobs to the country and can Make America Great Again and not 110% fossil fuels then by god I'll take Rick Perry and not risk some anti-clean energy oil CEO getting the job instead. It's probably the only way to get through to someone like Trump. If you can set a precedence for wind, solar, and other clean energies for a successor to expand on while slowly eliminating fossil fuel usage then its better than nothing imo.
[QUOTE=Nautsabes;51522541]a dumb country hick leading a bunch of physcists and nuclear scientists. they must be tearing their hair out at the prospect[/QUOTE] To be honest he is more of a dumb cowboy hick, dumb country hick is Mike Pence.
Ooooh it just keeps getting better and better.
[QUOTE=OoE;51522791]He was pretty open to clean energy while he was governor.[/QUOTE] hes an "all the above" energy person which means 60% coal, 30% oil and whatever else. its kind of a cop out because its still not addressing the problem with coal or oil
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;51523143]But he's draining the swaaaaaaaaaamp! Muh cucks muh jobs muh mooslims I guess America deserves to fall apart. The entire deep south, Appalachians and rust belt are full of completely nonredeemable pieces of shit and when they realize that tall boy beer cans melt on the surface of Venus it'll be too late. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Muh Memeshit" - rilez))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Thanks for generalizing a very large portion of this country, and the part where I, and many other same minded individuals live.
[QUOTE=Sableye;51524689]hes an "all the above" energy person which means 60% coal, 30% oil and whatever else. its kind of a cop out because its still not addressing the problem with coal or oil[/QUOTE] And that's the thing. He doesn't care about climate change policy. His support of clean tech is strictly based on economics. If solar became more profitable than oil, he would double down on solar.
[QUOTE=OvB;51524779]And that's the thing. He doesn't care about climate change policy. His support of clean tech is strictly based on economics. If solar became more profitable than oil, he would double down on solar.[/QUOTE] That's what makes me especially uncomfortable with Perry as SoE: his personal investments in oil, and the recent discovery of shale under Texas. Just way too many conflicting interests at this point in time for me to even remotely believe he will make smart decisions regarding our energy independence
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;51523143]when they realize that tall boy beer cans melt on the surface of Venus it'll be too late[/QUOTE] you must not understand the power of the south then this is easily solved with shit found in our garages
Okay, I think I get the strategy now. Trump campaigned on the concept of shaking up and downsizing the government, so he's appointing people to his Cabinet that want to limit or totally reverse the government's involvement in those areas. A "foreclosure king" in charge of the Treasury, the biggest borrower in the world. A hardline conservative for AG, heading up a massive backlog of federal cases to prosecute A billionaire fundamentalist investor in charge of Commerce, responsible for a stagnant economy A laissez-faire CEO at the helm of the DoL, which has been accused of some really blatant overreach recently A private-education proponent responsible for the administration of public education (lol) The chair of a budget committee presiding over a massively inflated healthcare system A Russian oil baron directing the State Department, which has always had an anti-Russian bent And now Rick Perry, who desired at one point to abolish the very department he's tapped to lead If this is Trump's vision it suddenly makes a lot more sense. [QUOTE=thelurker1234;51522793]Rick Perry please stop embarrassing us Love, Texas. Just stay on dancing with the stars [video=youtube;zKbjy3mTXPE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKbjy3mTXPE[/video][/QUOTE] What's wrong with this? God forbid any of our politicians be actual people who make appearances outside of their jobs every now and then. He's learning to dance for his daughter's wedding, for Christ's sake. I think this is funny and heartwarming. [editline]13th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=rilez;51525039]That's what makes me especially uncomfortable with Perry as SoE: his personal investments in oil, and the recent discovery of shale under Texas. Just way too many conflicting interests at this point in time for me to even remotely believe he will make smart decisions regarding our energy independence[/QUOTE] Are you kidding? If we continue to tap our continental shale oil instead of importing from overseas we may very well outlast OPEC. If that isn't energy independence, I don't know what is. It's not like the pursuit of fossil fuels actively hinders the development of green alternatives.
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