• 60% of Americans hate all of the major candidates running for the Presidency
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[QUOTE=Mooman;50175438]That's surprising to hear. What's your income? Because besides the payroll tax for paid family and medical leave, his increased income tax brackets don't kick in until $250k<. Anything below that is the same as it is not, bar a slight increase for paid family and medical leave. [img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6a/3b/6e/6a3b6ebab0f932a28ec44503d2539845.jpg[/img] I agree with you on Trump, it's very sad how he's actually the best Republican running. I'm interested to see how moderate he goes after winning the nomination. In my opinion, he could wipe the floor with Clinton. We'll see what happens though[/QUOTE] My apologies, I've been out of the loop for a while. I didn't know Sander's released more information on his plan. So I was mistaken.
Vermin Supreme is going to have a good year.
[QUOTE=Mooman;50175438]I agree with you on Trump, it's very sad how he's actually the best Republican running. I'm interested to see how moderate he goes after winning the nomination. In my opinion, he could wipe the floor with Clinton. We'll see what happens though[/QUOTE] It's pretty funny that a lot of people think he has no chance against Clinton. People seriously underestimate how much the moderates really dislike her.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50172994]If I'm going to waste my time I'd rather waste it at home playing Fallout 4 than waste it + gas going into town to throw my vote into a sea of piss on a candidate that likely will only get my vote anyway. The only thing write-in ballots do in our bullshit two-party system is make life more miserable for everyone involved. The voter, for having to put up with the lines and the hassle of coming down there. The election commission, for having to tally up votes for everything from 'Fluffy McFluffKins' to 'Codsworth' to 'The Flying Spaghetti Monster', other voters who have one more body in line that's there for no real reason...blah. You're accomplishing fuck all by writing in a ballot unless you can somehow convince a few million people to also write in that same name. It's not 'voting for a potential loser'. It's 'voting for someone who doesn't even have a snowball's chance of hell of winning in your daydreams much less the real world'. I'd be as well off writing in my old pickup or one of my Fallout characters as I would a legit candidate for all the good it'd do. And, hey, benefit of the doubt, let's assume we get enough write-ins for the same person that it actually registers, the person is eligible and willing, blablabla. Then what? The electoral college, [b]which is what actually decides who goes into the oval office instead of the popular vote[/b]. isn't going to give them the time of day. They'll just shrug and grab whichever red or blue dickhead got the most votes of the balance. You'll end up electing a shitlord like Trump or Hilary with just 30-odd percent of the vote. You can see these sorts of things happening in countries with compulsory voting, where joke names get written in just so the person doesn't get fined for not voting...you also get people who just check whichever name is there first and move on, but that's not quite relavent to 'write-in votes'. Whether you like it or not, our voting system is so badly FUBAR that if you're not voting red or blue you might as well just not vote at all. It's the whole reason we're seeing Sanders V Hilary in the primaries. He would much rather run indy, but he knows it's political suicide to do so on a presidential level, that he'd never get any media attention or votes that way. He's forgotten more about the election process than you and I combined have ever learned and he's not even trying to go third party, what's that say about write-in efficacy?[/QUOTE] nah at least go down and vote 3rd party i like you're green party ( don't like the other )
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;50177607]nah at least go down and vote 3rd party i like you're green party ( don't like the other )[/QUOTE] The Greens had a pretty bad blow to their reputation when they got like 1% of the vote in 2000 and Dubya got elected. That's part of where the Dems' "if you're not with us you're against us" mentality comes from.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50174792] Great! Hey, guess what, not everyone lives that close. The only thing you'll find two blocks from my house is cattle. And my nearest neighbor. They're his cattle I'd expect him to be somewhere nearby. It's half an hour [b]by car[/b] for me, and with the fuel economy of the vehicles I have at my disposal, it'd take me about two gallons or so of gas to vote. Think about that when you suggest your alternates. If it takes me half an hour to drive to the polling place what alternatives am I gonna have? I'm not going to piss away a work day's worth of fuel casting a pointless ballot and nothing you say is going to change my mind on the subject. So until they make easy online voting a thing(Last election they outright didn't have it in my state that I could find) I'm not wasting my gas driving down there to vote without a damn good candidate on the blue or red side of the ballot to vote for.[/QUOTE] Considering you don't seem to want any vehicle with more than 1 hmpg, that's not really a great complaint dude
[QUOTE=TestECull;50174792]Great! Hey, guess what, not everyone lives that close. The only thing you'll find two blocks from my house is cattle. And my nearest neighbor. They're his cattle I'd expect him to be somewhere nearby. It's half an hour [b]by car[/b] for me, and with the fuel economy of the vehicles I have at my disposal, it'd take me about two gallons or so of gas to vote. Think about that when you suggest your alternates. If it takes me half an hour to drive to the polling place what alternatives am I gonna have?[/QUOTE] Start calling your state legislature and demanding a switch to an all mail-based ballot. Works fine here in Washington. You don't even need to put a stamp on it! [editline]21st April 2016[/editline] or some states already allow you to ask for your ballot to be mailed in, see if your state's one of them
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