• Rebecca Ann Sedwick, 12, commits suicide after extensive harassment
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[QUOTE=dass;42204767]I know pretty damn well that I shouldn't go near the wrong people if I don't want to get hurt, like everyone else.[/QUOTE] That's not what we're saying. That's very different from "She shouldn't be barred from services she enjoys because people suck". It's not even the same idea. [QUOTE] Nobody is saying its ok.[/QUOTE] You are. Especailly when you say it's her fault she went back to a social media app. She can choose to do that. It is not her fault the actions of others are carried out against her. Stop it. [QUOTE]Do you have a better solution other than to be fucking away from it? You do? Does it work? Share it with us then! Meanwhile, how about you save your mental health and don't go near idiots who want to bully you so you don't get worse?[/QUOTE] Yeah how about when kids are kids, we don't encourage and allow bullying? Because attitudes like yours encourage bullying regardless of if you laugh at the idea of you being a part of it. That just makes you a bigger idiot. [QUOTE]How fucking hard is it to do that when you can't do anything else?[/QUOTE] how fucking hard is it to get that a victim shouldn't be the one being told they have to be careful? How fucking hard is it to get that a bully should be the primary person getting dealt with, not the victim? Oh? You don't get it? Is that so? Well I already knew you didn't get it.
[QUOTE=dass;42204767]Nobody is saying its ok. Do you have a better solution other than to be fucking away from it? You do? Does it work? Share it with us then! Meanwhile, how about you save your mental health and don't go near idiots who want to bully you so you don't get worse?[/QUOTE] It starts with ending the victim blaming mentality of a lot of people (Oh hey like you!!) and focusing on stopping the cause of the problems instead (the bullies). It's not an overnight thing, but as long as we keep victim blaming it will never happen.
[QUOTE=dass;42204802]With a very bad example. Cancer doesn't goes away if you forget it. Bullies go away if you aren't near them. I'm laughing because you're saying the silliest stuff I've ever seen. So, you would go down a dangerous road because roads should not be dangerous? Thats not how the world works, unfortunately.[/QUOTE] Bullies do not go away simply if you are not near them. If that were true, then simply logging off the internet would be good enough, but it isn't because when people in real life are shitting on you for things that happened on the internet what the hell are you suggesting then? You shouldn't walk down dangerous roads, but you don't deserve any wrong for doing it you tool.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42204822]Ok, then what if the bullies follow you? What if even after the intervention of teachers and parents, they continue to bully?[/QUOTE] Again making them sound like complete and utter pro stalkers who live solely to harass someone else...
[QUOTE=dass;42204872]Again making them sound like complete and utter pro stalkers who live solely to harass someone else...[/QUOTE] Are you saying what Gwoodman posted doesn't happen?
[QUOTE=dass;42204872]Again making them sound like complete and utter pro stalkers who live solely to harass someone else...[/QUOTE] well maybe if you read the story or had any clue about what bullying is like beyond being called a fag on the internet, then maybe you would know but you don't, so you're talking out your ass like you're a wise man who suffered enough to understand. You don't know shit about it clearly.
[QUOTE=dass;42204872]Again making them sound like complete and utter pro stalkers who live solely to harass someone else...[/QUOTE] You don't even know what bullies are or how complex they can get just to fuck someone's life, do you? No one should be afraid of walking around the streets because some idiots don't understand that it's wrong.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42204864]Bullies do not go away simply if you are not near them. If that were true, then simply logging off the internet would be good enough, but it isn't because when people in real life are shitting on you for things that happened on the internet what the hell are you suggesting then? You shouldn't walk down dangerous roads, but you don't deserve any wrong for doing it you tool.[/QUOTE] Who said you deserved? I'm saying that it might happen, not saying that it will deservedly happen. And if I remember it right, it started again because of her going on messaging services, and not at school. Real life bullying is an actual threat, and the best to do is either to contact the school/parents of the other children involved, or in worse cases, contact the police. [editline]15th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42204887]well maybe if you read the story or had any clue about what bullying is like beyond being called a fag on the internet, then maybe you would know but you don't, so you're talking out your ass like you're a wise man who suffered enough to understand. You don't know shit about it clearly.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Gwoodman;42204898]You don't even know what bullies are or how complex they can get just to fuck someone's life, do you? No one should be afraid of walking around the streets because some idiots don't understand that it's wrong.[/QUOTE] I know pretty damn well what bullying is. Who's to say you two aren't the ones talking out of your asses like you know it all?
[QUOTE=dass;42204946]Who said you deserved? I'm saying that it might happen, not saying that it will deservedly happen. And if I remember it right, it started again because of her going on messaging services, and not at school. Real life bullying is an actual threat, and the best to do is either to contact the school/parents of the other children involved, or in worse cases, contact the police.[/QUOTE] You are going back to things discussed in past pages, you're useless in understanding and overall pointless to even talk to anymore. [QUOTE]Who's to say you two aren't the ones talking out of your asses like you know it all?[/QUOTE] Reasoning, knowledge of it usually helps with a lot of things, two things you don't have.
oh this whole sub forum is satire now, i get it
[QUOTE=dass;42204946]Who said you deserved? I'm saying that it might happen, not saying that it will deservedly happen.[/QUOTE] You do know you can say things without outright stating it right? You've been heavily implying, and you really can't deny this due to all the stupid shit we've got you quoted as saying, that it is indeed deserved and their fault. [QUOTE] And if I remember it right, it started again because of her going on messaging services, and not at school.[/QUOTE] It started. Key fucking words. But that's all you read isn't it? Because that's not really at that important when you're talking about bullying. It started at school. It continued online. It changed her few friends minds about her and caused her a great deal of stress. Not everyone is so comfortable being a total loner in their formative years as you no doubt were. [QUOTE]Real life bullying is an actual threat, and the best to do is either to contact the school/parents of the other children involved, or in worse cases, contact the police.[/QUOTE] Being punched and hit is not the only serious form of bullying. You can repeat this ad nauseam. You are fucking wrong. [editline]15th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Jacknife;42204996]oh this whole sub forum is satire now, i get it[/QUOTE] No. what the fuck are you talking about
[QUOTE=Jacknife;42204996]oh this whole sub forum is satire now, i get it[/QUOTE] You'll probably be the exact same as him, having the same mindset.
[QUOTE=dass;42204946] I know pretty damn well what bullying is. Who's to say you two aren't the ones talking out of your asses like you know it all?[/QUOTE] Well I for one am showing some signs of empathy and compassion. I was bullied. I have long scars across my wrists and 3 years as a heroin addict to remind me every day what it's like to be bullied to the point of utter and complete depression. I know what it's like to have real life bullies and shit heads pursue you online, and outside of school. I know how this can make a person wish they were dead. What do you have to make your expertise on the subject so thorough?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42205041]Well I for one am showing some signs of empathy and compassion. I was bullied. I have long scars across my wrists and 3 years as a heroin addict to remind me every day what it's like to be bullied to the point of utter and complete depression. I know what it's like to have real life bullies and shit heads pursue you online, and outside of school. I know how this can make a person wish they were dead. What do you have to make your expertise on the subject so thorough?[/QUOTE] What do I know? That you are completely and utterly biased. Very sorry about what happened to you though. And that SH posters are completely out of touch with the world.
I believe some of us, without being dicks to you, are trying to make understand why blaming the victim is wrong, that she shouldn't isolate herself from things almost everyone uses these days just because some idiots worsened her unstable mind by returning to bully her, she has all the right to use online apps, they don't have the right to continue harassing her. She didn't kill herself because she returned to use online apps, she killed herself because the bullies didn't let her alone. Given that she did ignore them by moving schools and they still went after her, what you are saying is wrong. I dare you to defy this logic.
[QUOTE=dass;42205081]What do I know? That you are completely and utterly biased. Very sorry about what happened to you though.[/QUOTE] Yes I am biased. This doesn't change that you are and were victim blaming.
His expertise is he held a stiff upper lip and turned into one of those assholes.
[QUOTE=dass;42205081]What do I know? That you are completely and utterly biased. Very sorry about what happened to you though. And that SH posters are completely out of touch with the world.[/QUOTE] Are you being serious? because if you are you're a terrible person.
[QUOTE=dass;42205081]What do I know? That you are completely and utterly biased. Very sorry about what happened to you though. And that SH posters are completely out of touch with the world.[/QUOTE] Says the one who thinks a social life isn't necessary for survival.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42205096]I believe some of us, without being dicks to you, are trying to make understand why blaming the victim is wrong, that she shouldn't isolate herself from things almost everyone uses these days just because some idiots worsened her unstable mind by returning to bully her, she has all the right to use online apps, they don't have the right to continue harassing her. She didn't kill herself because she returned to use online apps, she killed herself because the bullies didn't let her alone. Given that she did ignore them by moving schools and they still went after her, what you are saying is wrong. I dare you to defy this logic.[/QUOTE] fact: she went back online, where they further resumed their harassment. Why, oh why would she go set foot back on the place full of assholes again? She was even recovering ffs.
[QUOTE=dass;42205081]And that SH posters are completely out of touch with the world.[/QUOTE] You are the one out-of-touch
[QUOTE=dass;42205128]fact: she went back online, where they further resumed their harassment. Why, oh why would she go set foot back on the place full of assholes again? She was even recovering ffs.[/QUOTE] THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN IF THEY, [B]THE BULLIES[/B], DIDN'T PURSUE HER. THE FUCK IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? DID YOU READ?
[QUOTE=dass;42205128]fact: she went back online, where they further resumed their harassment. Why, oh why would she go set foot back on the place full of assholes again? She was even recovering ffs.[/QUOTE] Those things called socially networking and friends
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42205124]Says the one who thinks a social life isn't necessary for survival.[/QUOTE] She was 12 lol
[QUOTE=dass;42205162]She was 12 lol[/QUOTE] Even kids and teenagers need to develop social skills and maintain a network. You're denser than diamond ATM.
[QUOTE=dass;42205162]She was 12 lol[/QUOTE] Clearly you have no clue of what a social life is, what bullies actually do, how blaming a clear innocent victim is wrong. You have a terrible view on things and you should look into that. Even children have social lifes btw.
[QUOTE=Van-man;42205152]Those things called socially networking and friends[/QUOTE] Then learn to use the goddamn thing and avoid bullies ffs, it isn't rocket science.
[QUOTE=dass;42205162]She was 12 lol[/QUOTE] How is that relevant to that? 12 year olds are somehow exempt from the need to socialize now?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42205149]THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN IF THEY, [B]THE BULLIES[/B], DIDN'T PURSUE HER. THE FUCK IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? DID YOU READ?[/QUOTE] Did they jump out of her monitor when she logged on? Don't give me crap, she can very well block them.
[QUOTE=dass;42205195]Then learn to use the goddamn thing and avoid bullies ffs, it isn't rocket science.[/QUOTE] It's impossible to ignore people who literally hunt you down, except online.
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