• Rebecca Ann Sedwick, 12, commits suicide after extensive harassment
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[QUOTE=dass;42205195]Then learn to use the goddamn thing and avoid bullies ffs, it isn't rocket science.[/QUOTE] We've told you how avoiding doesn't work and yet you still return to that, you're clearly either trolling or shitposting at this point.
[QUOTE=dass;42205162]She was 12 lol[/QUOTE] Yes. So she was a key age to learn how to socialize properly at and she was bullied relentlessly. Where is she in the wrong here you stupid ass
[QUOTE=dass;42205195]Then learn to use the goddamn thing and avoid bullies ffs, it isn't rocket science.[/QUOTE] Maybe if you'd actually read the posts made against your "arguments", you'd have know by now that it isn't that easy? Bullying can go on behind your back, ruining friendships and relationship without the bullies ever saying anything directly to you.
[QUOTE=dass;42205206]Did they jump out of her monitor when she logged on? Don't give me crap, she can very well block them.[/QUOTE] Because it's [I]that [/I]hard to create a new fake account only for hazing and shitposting.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42205186]Clearly you have no clue of what a social life is, what bullies actually do, how blaming a clear innocent victim is wrong. You have a terrible view on things and you should look into that. Even children have social lifes btw.[/QUOTE] But these wise FPers know! I'm saying it isn't needed for your survival [b]when you're 12 years old, let alone on the goddamn internet and not at her new school[/b]
[QUOTE=dass;42205206]Did they jump out of her monitor when she logged on? Don't give me crap, she can very well block them.[/QUOTE] And you still don't understand that online, even irl, rumors can spread throughout a town/city.
[QUOTE=dass;42205226]I'm saying it isn't needed for your survival [b]when you're 12 years old[/b][/QUOTE] [I][B]Well you are wrong.[/B][/I]
[QUOTE=dass;42205226]But these wise FPers know! I'm saying it isn't needed for your survival [b]when you're 12 years old, let alone on the goddamn internet and not at her new school[/b][/QUOTE] But [b]YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG.[/b] It is required. You NEED to learn to socialize or you'll end up unable to show empathy and compassion. Like you.
[QUOTE=dass;42205226]But these wise FPers know! I'm saying it isn't needed for your survival [b]when you're 12 years old, let alone on the goddamn internet and not at her new school[/b][/QUOTE] When you are a child, you are in development, socially, mentally and physically, what kind of education did you get, holy shit
[QUOTE=LarparNar;42205233][I][B]Well you are wrong.[/B][/I][/QUOTE] Gee, I wonder how soo many people survived then... [editline]15th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42205243]But [b]YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG.[/b] It is required. You NEED to learn to socialize or you'll end up unable to show empathy and compassion. Like you.[/QUOTE] Saying it doesnt makes it right
[QUOTE=dass;42205267]Gee, I wonder how soo many people survived then...[/QUOTE] Because they socialized with others and got help, genius
[QUOTE=dass;42205267]Gee, I wonder how soo many people survived then... [editline]15th September 2013[/editline] Saying it doesnt makes it right[/QUOTE] When you are young, you are developing. You MUST develop social skills at a young age or you will not be capable at a later age. This is not arguable. This is not a disscussion we are having. You are wrong. You are being told you are wrong. Continuing to argue that you are right with the reasoning being "I'm a good person and everyone on FP is an idiot unaware of the real world, look how much better I am than you" is not going to make you right ever.
[QUOTE=dass;42205267]Gee, I wonder how soo many people survived then... [editline]15th September 2013[/editline] Saying it doesnt makes it right[/QUOTE] So many people survived by socializing? From the beginning of time people have formed social groups, this has been said before. There was also links posted to three different articles explaining why socializing is important to humans, and that isolation damages your psyche. Reading is useful. [editline]15th September 2013[/editline] I don't know why I even bother anymore.
[QUOTE=dass;42205267]Saying it doesnt makes it right[/QUOTE] You're wearing out my irony alarm.
[QUOTE=Van-man;42205325]You're wearing out my irony alarm.[/QUOTE] It's painful to watch in so many ways.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42204771]I would hate to be your friend in real life at any level if this is how you show any degree of compassion and empathy.[/QUOTE] When I was posting [QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42203456]Do you have any friends?[/QUOTE] I was going to ask if he wanted to be my friend, but then I realized I wouldn't want an asshole like him for a friend.
so dass, what do you enjoy? games perhaps? now here's the thing though. someone is harrasing you through the games you enjoy, and it really bothers you. luckily you have the solution for the problem! just stop playing and stop doing what you love the most because of someone else! BRILLIANT! but oh wait, now you have nothing to occupy your time with anymore! looks like the quality of life was just severely reduced!
Look I'm all for the "turn off the PC ahahah" argument and shit but it's not her fault for trying to have a social life. Dass, you're clearly missing the point about all of this.
i like how dass kept asking people when he ever blamed the victim, and when the quotes came in, he completely ignored them to repeat his argument of: 'SHE DIDNT NEED IT, HER FAULT FOR GOING BACK TO IT" im still wondering how we're 'edgy' is it considered 'edgy' to condemn another person to victim blame a 12 year old who committed suicide and act as if having more judgemental mental power than her is some sort of accomplishment?
victim blaming aside. Does no one remember sticks and stones? Words should never drive anyone to suicide. Especially someone so young.
That's actually been discussed, read the thread ffs
[QUOTE=Mudbone;42206449]victim blaming aside. Does no one remember sticks and stones? Words should never drive anyone to suicide. Especially someone so young.[/QUOTE] Aww... Is reading this thread too much work for little Mudbone, huh?
[QUOTE=Mudbone;42206449]victim blaming aside. Does no one remember sticks and stones? Words should never drive anyone to suicide. Especially someone so young.[/QUOTE] uh this is such a meaningless and stupid phrase that never meant anything in the first place. sure, sticks and stones may break bones, but the pen is mightier than the sword and has felled many kingdoms with nary a drop of blood. words have power. And denying this is just flat out wrong.
anybody who takes a two-line children's song as serious life advice has fucking issues
Stop cyber bullying dass, guys! But I guess he's immune to it which explains why he keeps coming back here for some reason
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42206620]Stop cyber bullying dass, guys! But I guess he's immune to it which explains why he keeps coming back here for some reason[/QUOTE] his entire argument is that a social life isn't necessary and he didn't respond when someone asked if he actually had any friends. i think that really says enough
[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;42205915]Look I'm all for the "turn off the PC ahahah" argument and shit but it's not her fault for trying to have a social life. Dass, you're clearly missing the point about all of this.[/QUOTE] Hell, if it's just random assholes in a game telling you to kill yourself, turning off the game works fine, or just going to a new server, or just playing a new game. When it's consistent attacks where the people follow you, it becomes actual bullying (yes, even if it is internet ashsoles), and that is where the problem lies. You'd have to give up everything to stop them following you, and that isn't fair. [editline]16th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Mudbone;42206449]victim blaming aside. Does no one remember sticks and stones? Words should never drive anyone to suicide. Especially someone so young.[/QUOTE] Words hurt, and will drive people to suicide. They are the strongest form of communication we have, if someone is consistently attacking your character verbally, some of it will get to you. Whether that be through self-doubt, or just generally annoying you, they will have some impact on you. Even when you don't consciously notice it.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;42206678]Hell, if it's just random assholes in a game telling you to kill yourself, turning off the game works fine, or just going to a new server, or just playing a new game. When it's consistent attacks where the people follow you, it becomes actual bullying (yes, even if it is internet ashsoles), and that is where the problem lies. You'd have to give up everything to stop them following you, and that isn't fair.[/quote] I wasn't defending him, I was saying that he's acting like an emotionless bastard. Wording could've been better on my part, sorry.
[QUOTE=dass;42201398]Well, do you suggest she kills herself instead of working out her way around the bullying since nobody else does anything towards her well being? What other option are you and anyone else giving other than patting her on the back? And how is it anywhere near an ACTUAL OPTION to go straight back to the place where the bullies are? How hard is it to avoid things that hurt you?![/QUOTE] Oh. Oh I cannot believe I missed this gem. So, well done on failing debate 101, you'll need to resit that next year, and I won't go easy on you then either. When I say "she shouldn't go out of the way to avoid bullies", that in [B]no fucking way at all[/B] implies I want her to off herself instead. Are you really this fucking thick that you can make leaps of logic like that and not see a problem? The solution is for the bullies to stop being shitlords, they need some form of punishment or education as to what they do to people. Though as I said, our culture doesn't promote this, bullies are seen a strong, victims as weak, so people don't give a shit until someone dies. Going back to the services and systems that bullies were using to abuse you is totally an option, you're doing it again, restricting what a victim can do to enjoy themselves and live their life because of the bullying. The systems and services should take care of the bullies, banning them, alerting authorities, anything that negatively impacts the bully, not the victim. Avoiding stuff that hurts you isn't hard. So long as those things aren't needed for an active social life and aren't something you remotely enjoy doing. You're just depriving yourself of things you enjoy because other people are assholes. That'll totes help the depression yo!!! Wallowing in a pool of self doubt is totes healthy ya hear!!! [editline]16th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;42206824]I wasn't defending him, I was saying that he's acting like an emotionless bastard. Wording could've been better on my part, sorry.[/QUOTE] Oh, I know :v: I was expanding on it a bit, because people here can't seem to tell the difference between shitheads in games and actual bullies.
[QUOTE=Aspen;42196596]thanks for your contribution to the thread i don't think you got brutally harassed on every service you signed up for[/QUOTE] You're right, I don't. Why? Because I don't do social media. Even if I did, I personally believe a couple of "Fuck off"s and a few blocks can go a long way.
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