• Rebecca Ann Sedwick, 12, commits suicide after extensive harassment
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[QUOTE=dass;42208960]Gee, I don't know, probably because she had already been harassed by phone and on the internet? It's a good guess, but others might disagree... That is the truth. Whoever tells you that the world is a nice place and a constant sea of roses should really take a good look at the world they live in unless they are some silver spoon bloke. You can't expect everyone you meet to shake your hand and be your friend and hand you a dollar. Oh noes, she can't go on the internet, she will have to make friends like people used to in the old days, at school and in person... All to avoid assholes and for her developing well being... Gee, what a huge handicap.[/QUOTE] except she moved schools and it's been awhile, the very fact she reused the messenger is proof that she wanted to socialize with people she probably made in new school not to mention she's 12, how would she have thought the would harbor a grudge for that long and go lengths to bully her again? so you're more or less justifying blaming the victim on the idea that the world is harsh and unable to comprehend no one is saying they should expect everyone shake your hand and hand you a dollar but what people ARE saying is that nobody should blame a 12 year old girl whose growing up in a social media world where phone and internet is crucial that is pretty much used by everyone you're actually saying she should isolate herself outside of school or face bullying again, and it's her fault for her to break out of that cause the 'world is harsh' and you seriously wonder a lot of people is slamming you for having such a stupid unsympathetic viewpoint? just fucking admit you're blaming the victim cause you are
[QUOTE=hexpunK;42208976]So, as you seem to not be getting it at all, lets put it in your terms. Say you're being bullied, and they follow you to steam, adding you through alts, spreading shit to friends of yours on steam, following everything you do on steam to make your life hell. Your solution is to stop using the online functions of steam. Effectively removing all forms of contact with online friends that you don't share personal information with or use external programs with (the bullies follow you to these for the same of the argument anyway). You now have fewer freedoms to socialise and actually do what the fuck you want on steam thanks to the bullies. How is this fair to you?[/QUOTE] I honestly wouldn't care because its Steam and my gaming life isn't worth a damn whatsoever. But taking that out of the equation and acting as if I cared... For starters, my profile is private, and then, I don't add everyone that shows up unnannounced. And if they did say anything to any of my friends, I'd just clear up whats happening. [editline]16th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=lolwutdude;42208955]no, we're saying 12 year olds are more prone to making mistakes because they're not mature as us, but that does not mean just because she made a 'mistake', she deserved to be bullied for it your arguments comes down to 'its her fault because she should have known better and world is harsh, deal with it' while rejecting anything else as stupidity and we're saying that reasoning is shit and there is no need to foster an environment like this by OK'ing this kind of thing by waving it away as 'world is harsh' or 'she should have not done that'. the blame alone is and always be: the bullies. no ones twisting shit, you're saying it through and through and flipping out when people call you out for be unable to realize how crude you sound[/QUOTE]When are you gonna realize that I'm not saying that this stuff is ok? That's simple thought process. It isn't ok, but what else can you do? [editline]16th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=lolwutdude;42209021]just fucking admit you're blaming the victim cause you are[/QUOTE] I already said that I partially blame her for it lol. If she wanted to go back to the messenger app that badly, she could have blocked whoever was harassing her. Which mind you, there is an option for that.
You'd still be being hassled by constant attempts to sabotage your online presence, account reports, inability to use community features, your online friends not being totally at your side. You would lose out in some way, despite what you think. If bullies could link you to your online accounts, anything at all incriminating could be used against you. Have you ever actually been on the receiving end of real bullying? You don't think or act rationally when you've been constantly attacked for an extended period of time.
[QUOTE=dass;42208991][B]Well guess what, if she didn't go on the messaging service and kept on doing whatever she was doing, we wouldn't be here having this long debate. But I bet inside your head, I'm dismissing the harassers entirely. [/B] (which I'm actually not, just in case you need reassurance) (but oh crap, you'll select just the "wrong" parts of my post and dismiss everything else to suit your needs because I'm evil and emotionless, damn)[/QUOTE] well yeah that's what the bolded sentence fucking means. maybe you should stop speaking english if you can't get it right enough to a point where we don't "Misunderstand" you saying stupid shit like "I'm not victim blaming" followed by "I'm blaming her for this"
[QUOTE=dass;42209034] When are you gonna realize that I'm not saying that this stuff is ok? That's simple thought process. It isn't ok, but what else can you do?[/QUOTE] you're excusing the bullies and carrying the blame to the victim you're trivializing cyber-bullying by waving it off as a non-sense even though you don't know what you're talking about you're saying it's okay that a child should be deprived of social tools because of assholes no where in your argument is a direct condemnation of bullies whose actually responsible and you just admitted you are blaming the victim i dont know what more to say to you, you are so entrenched in your prosecution complex and the idea that everyone blasting you is wrong, no matter what i say is going to change your mind you're one of the reason why world is shit sometimes m8
[QUOTE=dass;42209034]I honestly wouldn't care because its Steam and my gaming life isn't worth a damn whatsoever. But taking that out of the equation and acting as if I cared... For starters, my profile is private, and then, I don't add everyone that shows up unnannounced. And if they did say anything to any of my friends, I'd just clear up whats happening.[/QUOTE] oh good for you, you clearly don't care about social life, something many, many people that aren't you, do care about and do value. Don't place your values on everyone else like you're better than everyone. [editline]16th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE]When are you gonna realize that I'm not saying that this stuff is ok? That's simple thought process. It isn't ok, but what else can you do?[/QUOTE] well for starters, when you say "It's not okay but you'll never change it" you're basically saying "It's okay, we can only stop you from doing things, the people who are at fault here will not really be blamed or inconvenienced in any serious way" [editline]16th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE]I already said that I partially blame her for it lol. If she wanted to go back to the messenger app that badly, she could have blocked whoever was harassing her. Which mind you, there is an option for that.[/QUOTE] Yes, because they had no other way of damaging her than directly talking to her. LIKE WE'VE SAID BEFORE.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;42209097] Have you ever actually been on the receiving end of real bullying? You don't think or act rationally when you've been constantly attacked for an extended period of time.[/QUOTE] watch out, crazy unconfirmable anecdotes inbound! i bet it involves something physical, his feeling getting hurt, then he rose up like superman saying 'THESE ARE JUST WORDS, THEY DO NOT HURT ME' therefore any else is wrong to not have his MENTAL STRENGTH
[QUOTE=hexpunK;42209097]You'd still be being hassled by constant attempts to sabotage your online presence, account reports, inability to use community features, your online friends not being totally at your side. You would lose out in some way, despite what you think. If bullies could link you to your online accounts, anything at all incriminating could be used against you. Have you ever actually been on the receiving end of real bullying? You don't think or act rationally when you've been constantly attacked for an extended period of time.[/QUOTE] Yes I have, and I didn't crack down over online shit, but thats me, so it doesn't matters. And you do realize you're making up the bullies into an organized bullying squad that track down everything just to harass someone. This was about a 12 year old kiddie romance, not some shaddy deal between hardcore people that went wrong and the guy went into the cold lol.
[QUOTE=dass;42209168]Yes I have, and I didn't crack down over online shit, but thats me, so it doesn't matters. [B]And you do realize you're making up the bullies into an organized bullying squad that track down everything just to harass someone.[/B] This was about a 12 year old kiddie romance, not some shaddy deal between hardcore people that went wrong and the guy went into the cold lol.[/QUOTE] They literally did track her down so how is that in any way inaccurate? Yes, and puppy love is hard ass shit for kids who don't have a good handle on their emotional states as it is due to hormones, why not just throw in bullying in there to make it better right?
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;42209110]you're excusing the bullies and carrying the blame to the victim you're trivializing cyber-bullying by waving it off as a non-sense even though you don't know what you're talking about you're saying it's okay that a child should be deprived of social tools because of assholes no where in your argument is a direct condemnation of bullies whose actually responsible and you just admitted you are blaming the victim i dont know what more to say to you, you are so entrenched in your prosecution complex and the idea that everyone blasting you is wrong, no matter what i say is going to change your mind you're one of the reason why world is shit sometimes m8[/QUOTE] It's like you're just trying to keep the debate going, even though I've said it many times before the exact fucking opposite. Do you even read the thread? Look at my quote in the thread above. If you say that, then you don't know a thing about the world, "m8". I'm not excusing the bullies, but I am partially blaming the victim (read my own quote in the post above yours) Cyber-bullying is bullshit and you guys make it sound like its a game of spies and hackers that go as deep as bone all for a dispute over a 12 y old boy I'm not saying a child should be deprived of social tools because of assholes, I'm saying she WAS getting better when she was away from said social tools, which is referenced in the article everyone urges to read but apparently forget about it of course there isn't a direct condemnation of the bullies responsible, goddamn do I actually have to say that aswell? Oh my fucking god, the most simple of fucking things to realize and you still plague people with the most obvious and moronic question of all? and yes, I am partialy blaming the victim who was doing alright until she went back to it My prosecution complex? So wait, you guys are treating her as a toddler because shes 12 and she apparently can't do anything because of being 12, don't care at all that she basically set herself up and didn't even take the necessary precautions against bullies, are so stubborn and god knows what more that you still actually need complete affirmation that the bullies are indeed at fault and trade a "social" life through messaging over a person's well being, and I have a prosecution complex? Speechless.
"Cyber-bullying is bullshit" [URL]http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/aug/09/rehtaeh-parsons-suicide-charged-photos[/URL] "You're comparing a 12 year old to a toddler" [URL]http://www.cyh.com/healthtopics/healthtopicdetails.aspx?p=114&np=122&id=1865[/URL] I'll do more research if you want.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;42209131]watch out, crazy unconfirmable anecdotes inbound! i bet it involves something physical, his feeling getting hurt, then he rose up like superman saying 'THESE ARE JUST WORDS, THEY DO NOT HURT ME' therefore any else is wrong to not have his MENTAL STRENGTH[/QUOTE] Oh you would know right? It just has to be bs. I did suck it up, and guess what, one of the harassers is a drug dealing compulsive liar that's constantly on the run, another is working a shitty job at a supermarket, and another is pretty much a fat washed out teen dad because of his dumbness.
[QUOTE=dass;42209258]It's like you're just trying to keep the debate going, even though I've said it many times before the exact fucking opposite. Do you even read the thread? Look at my quote in the thread above.[/QUOTE] Yes. We read the thread. We read the part where you have literally and figuratively both, blamed the victim. [QUOTE]If you say that, then you don't know a thing about the world, "m8".[/QUOTE] Why do you act like you're so wise and hardened? Shit man, I lived on the lower east side of vancouver, one of the statistically lowest income areas in all of north america, crime and drug use here is rampant, but no one there was "okay" with the world being "how it is". No one was "Okay" with the idea all people are horrible rampant people who will shit on each other like you have made it clear you think. If you disagree with that idea, say so, but you haven't made it seem any other way than that you fully disdain "social lives" [QUOTE]I'm not excusing the bullies, but I am partially blaming the victim (read my own quote in the post above yours)[/QUOTE] No, you have fully blamed the victim, and have not, in any words said "the bullies are the real people who should be blamed, and dealt with" [QUOTE]Cyber-bullying is bullshit and you guys make it sound like its a game of spies and hackers that go as deep as bone all for a dispute over a 12 y old boy[/QUOTE] Cyber bullying is just real bullying you fuck. It's just bullying that's gone to words over an networking site. Words in real life are hurtful and full of vitrol when fired by the right people, and they will hurt fragile ego's that are growing as children. You are acting like this is just fine by not stating anything against it when you state things against the victim in explicit terms. Bullying can change the only friends a child has into enemies, and they don't have any recourse to stop this when people like you don't do anything but ignore it. By ignoring, you have sanctioned it. [QUOTE]I'm not saying a child should be deprived of social tools because of assholes, I'm saying she WAS getting better when she was away from said social tools, which is referenced in the article everyone urges to read but apparently forget about it[/QUOTE] Yes you are. You can say that this is not what you said, but it is. She was getting better. And then you know what she probably thought to herself? "Maybe I can start to make friends again? Maybe things have changed?". What the fuck do you think she thought? She felt like she deserved it? She probably opened herself up and realized there was no one there that wouldn't be a shitlord. [QUOTE]of course there isn't a direct condemnation of the bullies responsible, goddamn do I actually have to say that aswell? Oh my fucking god, the most simple of fucking things to realize and you still plague people with the most obvious and moronic question of all?[/QUOTE] Yes. when you say "The victim is to blame" what the FUCK do you think you meant? That the bullies actions aren't wrong? Because no one but you reads that, and you haven't got the ability to recognize that how you see things isn't important in a fucking discussion. All you're doing is making statements and refusing to discuss an issue. [QUOTE]and yes, I am partialy blaming the victim who was doing alright until she went back to it[/QUOTE] So for her whole life, she should have stayed away you're saying? Or what ARE you saying by this? That she should have returned when the bullies left? How would she ever know that? [QUOTE]My prosecution complex? So wait, you guys are treating her as a toddler because shes 12 and she apparently can't do anything because of being 12, don't care at all that she basically set herself up and didn't even take the necessary precautions against bullies, are so stubborn and god knows what more that you still actually need complete affirmation that the bullies are indeed at fault and trade a "social" life through messaging over a person's well being, and I have a prosecution complex?[/QUOTE] Uh, 12. Key point. A 12 year old is not wholly intelligent and is not an adult, and you're easily holding her to the responsibility of one. Her actions and her feelings in a school yard and school based environment, not the "real world" you keep referring to in some fucked up attempt to seem more hardened than anyone else here, should not have to face those of shitlords. When you are 12, as I have said before and you have blatantly ignored before, you need to learn important social skills, to get to the point you are claiming to have reached, one that understands the dangers and the problems. She was not at this stage. She could not get to this stage without that socializing skills. But you are denying her this because of other peoples actions. Clear. Plain. Simple. [QUOTE]Speechless.[/QUOTE] Yes, it is fucking speechless how you don't understand any level of empathy.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42209122]oh good for you, you clearly don't care about social life, something many, many people that aren't you, do care about and do value. Don't place your values on everyone else like you're better than everyone. well for starters, when you say "It's not okay but you'll never change it" you're basically saying "It's okay, we can only stop you from doing things, the people who are at fault here will not really be blamed or inconvenienced in any serious way" Yes, because they had no other way of damaging her than directly talking to her. LIKE WE'VE SAID BEFORE.[/QUOTE] Time and time again have you guys proved me that having a social life on the internet with a possibility of having bullies harassing you is better than not going online, making friends at school and simply getting better. I will never understand what kind of rationalization this is. It's not "we can stop you from doing things", its "she stopped doing these things for her own good, because she's better off that way" when you can't have something better than that. What the fuck, are you seriously saying she should go online even though she and no one else could do anything about the bullies? What the hell is this mess of an idea? And you forgot the part where she changed schools, and the harassment restarted when she went [b]online[/b].
[QUOTE=dass;42209356]Oh you would know right? It just has to be bs. I did suck it up, and guess what, one of the harassers is a drug dealing compulsive liar that's constantly on the run, another is working a shitty job at a supermarket, and another is pretty much a fat washed out teen dad because of his dumbness.[/QUOTE] Oh good. You must feel so powerful to be better than those that beat you as a child. Maybe you would be able to feel better than them if they had taken away your friends, and had made your life difficult at school by telling lies about you that you couldn't deny in a factual way, especially not as a child because you barely understood what was happening, so you didn't react right and ended up getting kicked out of that school because of simple lies told by other, viscious little brats to ignorant and shitty teachers who barely care about the act of raising young people to become capable people in a safe and understanding social environment. So you're in a new school, your only experiences have been that people are mean and cruel and you have no idea why. Your mind barely understands the concepts of self esteem and ego, but already your personality suffers from it due to the rare times you've managed to socialize being ruined in a thorough and terrible fashion by kids, those same shitlords mentioned previously. Years of this goes on. Stuggles for every friend and every social situation, hurt what little ego you have. At the age of 15, you can barely go to school, so crippled by clinical depression, therapy and counselors do nothing for you and being home schooled is hardly an option as both your parents work full time jobs and barely spend enough time with you as it is just to make ends meet, what can you do but look at the world as an empty, horrible place filled with ugly people who can't for a moment take a breath of empathy. So you take a razor to your wrists and slash them up nice and deep and you hope it works. You wake up in a hospital bed. This is real life for a lot of people. [editline]15th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=dass;42209400]Time and time again have you guys proved me that having a social life on the internet with a possibility of having bullies harassing you is better than not going online, making friends at school and simply getting better. I will never understand what kind of rationalization this is. It's not "we can stop you from doing things", its "she stopped doing these things for her own good, because she's better off that way" when you can't have something better than that. What the fuck, are you seriously saying she should go online even though she and no one else could do anything about the bullies? What the hell is this mess of an idea? And you forgot the part where she changed schools, and the harassment restarted when she went [b]online[/b].[/QUOTE] just fucking read my posts
No one is saying that you should go online when the bullies are there, everyone is saying she has the right to go online and talk to her friends while not being targeted by those bullies again, which THEY DID, jesus fucking christ
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42209284]"Cyber-bullying is bullshit" [URL]http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/aug/09/rehtaeh-parsons-suicide-charged-photos[/URL] "You're comparing a 12 year old to a toddler" [URL]http://www.cyh.com/healthtopics/healthtopicdetails.aspx?p=114&np=122&id=1865[/URL] I'll do more research if you want.[/QUOTE] Thats a rape case, not something as trivial as a dispute over a 12 year old kid... And you still act like a 12 year old can't do anything right. [editline]16th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42209185]They literally did track her down so how is that in any way inaccurate? Yes, and puppy love is hard ass shit for kids who don't have a good handle on their emotional states as it is due to hormones, why not just throw in bullying in there to make it better right?[/QUOTE] And apparently you can't block them! :downs:
[QUOTE=dass;42209434]Thats a rape case, not something as trivial as a dispute over a 12 year old kid... And you still act like a 12 year old can't do anything right. [editline]16th September 2013[/editline] And apparently you can't block them! :downs:[/QUOTE] And apparently they can't make dummy accounts! :downs: Fuck dude. Either reply or you have effectively proved you're a troll. No replies to the arguments means you are a troll.
[QUOTE=dass;42209434]Thats a rape case, not something as trivial as a dispute over a 12 year old kid... And you still act like a 12 year old can't do anything right.[/QUOTE] "Cyber-bullying is bullshit" [URL]http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/aug/09/cyberbullying-mother-fight-askfm[/URL] [QUOTE]"It's so frustrating. When you talk to police and they say they can't do anything because the company is based in Latvia, when each organisation sends you to someone else and says it is not their responsibility, you feel completely helpless, completely let down."[/QUOTE] "You're comparing a 12 year old to a toddler";"And you still act like a 12 year old can't do anything right." I'm saying they don't have a mentality of a 18 year old, i'm not saying they can't do anything, did you even open the link? [QUOTE]"However, all three ages share a view of adulthood from this particular "developmental hill", and the state of the world and the state of adult relationships and adult life surrounding them will be of great interest to them in [B]making up their minds whether or not "adulthood" is to be desired.[/B]"[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]"By eleven your child is much more interested in, and [B]affected by, the norms of their friends[/B]"[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]"Although eleven and twelve year olds may begin to start wanting to do things more independently, and they do need to stretch their wings a little bit, they are certainly not as capable of dealing with the world as some of them would have you believe or as they sometimes think themselves, so it is good to check out situations to make sure they are safe before they go off on their own."[/QUOTE] And this last quote, the parents did this by changing schools and yet the bullies still targeted her. I'm actually giving you proof and not just talking about what I've seen and experienced. Don't you fucking dare deny this.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42209358]Yes. We read the thread. We read the part where you have literally and figuratively both, blamed the victim. Why do you act like you're so wise and hardened? Shit man, I lived on the lower east side of vancouver, one of the statistically lowest income areas in all of north america, crime and drug use here is rampant, but no one there was "okay" with the world being "how it is". No one was "Okay" with the idea all people are horrible rampant people who will shit on each other like you have made it clear you think. If you disagree with that idea, say so, but you haven't made it seem any other way than that you fully disdain "social lives" No, you have fully blamed the victim, and have not, in any words said "the bullies are the real people who should be blamed, and dealt with" Cyber bullying is just real bullying you fuck. It's just bullying that's gone to words over an networking site. Words in real life are hurtful and full of vitrol when fired by the right people, and they will hurt fragile ego's that are growing as children. You are acting like this is just fine by not stating anything against it when you state things against the victim in explicit terms. Bullying can change the only friends a child has into enemies, and they don't have any recourse to stop this when people like you don't do anything but ignore it. By ignoring, you have sanctioned it. Yes you are. You can say that this is not what you said, but it is. She was getting better. And then you know what she probably thought to herself? "Maybe I can start to make friends again? Maybe things have changed?". What the fuck do you think she thought? She felt like she deserved it? She probably opened herself up and realized there was no one there that wouldn't be a shitlord. Yes. when you say "The victim is to blame" what the FUCK do you think you meant? That the bullies actions aren't wrong? Because no one but you reads that, and you haven't got the ability to recognize that how you see things isn't important in a fucking discussion. All you're doing is making statements and refusing to discuss an issue. So for her whole life, she should have stayed away you're saying? Or what ARE you saying by this? That she should have returned when the bullies left? How would she ever know that? Uh, 12. Key point. A 12 year old is not wholly intelligent and is not an adult, and you're easily holding her to the responsibility of one. Her actions and her feelings in a school yard and school based environment, not the "real world" you keep referring to in some fucked up attempt to seem more hardened than anyone else here, should not have to face those of shitlords. When you are 12, as I have said before and you have blatantly ignored before, you need to learn important social skills, to get to the point you are claiming to have reached, one that understands the dangers and the problems. She was not at this stage. She could not get to this stage without that socializing skills. But you are denying her this because of other peoples actions. Clear. Plain. Simple. Yes, it is fucking speechless how you don't understand any level of empathy.[/QUOTE] Yes yes, no need to underline the fact that I blame the victim up to a degree. How hard is it to comprehend that I don't disdain social lives? Like, really, I don't know. You keep underlining "socializing" and "social life" and so on, despite the fact that [B]she was doing better without your version of "socializing" online, that she could ACTUALLY have made better and harass free.[/B] [quote]No, you have fully blamed the victim, and have not, in any words said "the bullies are the real people who should be blamed, and dealt with"[/quote] Oh my god... The fact that I even have to mention this saddens me... It also proves that you don't read the thread. I'm not saying its fine, I'm saying cyber-bullying is BULLSHIT. Then what you're saying is that its the bullies fault for, well, bullying (mentioning it just so you can sleep at night), and somewhat her fault for not being able to use the app correctly and not get shitlords on a private environment? Which is exactly what happened. [quote]Yes. when you say "The victim is to blame" what the FUCK do you think you meant? That the bullies actions aren't wrong? Because no one but you reads that, and you haven't got the ability to recognize that how you see things isn't important in a fucking discussion. All you're doing is making statements and refusing to discuss an issue. [/quote] You're smarter than that. [quote]So for her whole life, she should have stayed away you're saying? Or what ARE you saying by this? That she should have returned when the bullies left? How would she ever know that?[/quote] Probably because they are bullies and they are assholes who never give up?... And probably because you could take precautions so that you wouldn't get unwanted people messing with you? [quote]Uh, 12. Key point. A 12 year old is not wholly intelligent and is not an adult, and you're easily holding her to the responsibility of one. Her actions and her feelings in a school yard and school based environment, not the "real world" you keep referring to in some fucked up attempt to seem more hardened than anyone else here, should not have to face those of shitlords. When you are 12, as I have said before and you have blatantly ignored before, you need to learn important social skills, to get to the point you are claiming to have reached, one that understands the dangers and the problems. She was not at this stage. She could not get to this stage without that socializing skills. But you are denying her this because of other peoples actions. Clear. Plain. Simple.[/quote] Nobody is saying she should. But she could also prevent them from harassing her again on her phone. This isn't about empathy. Its about preventing someone from making something bad over a couple of asshats. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Shitposting ad nauseam, terrible ban history" - Megafan))[/highlight]
[QUOTE]Bullying is the use of force or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or to aggressively impose a certain type of domination over others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception of an imbalance of social or physical power. Behaviors used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets. Justifications and rationalizations for such behavior sometimes include differences of class, race, religion, gender, sexuality, appearance, behavior, or ability.[2][3] If bullying is done by a group, it is called mobbing.[4] The target of bullying is sometimes referred to as a "victim ". Bullying consists of four basic types of abuse – emotional (sometimes called relational), verbal, physical, and cyber.[7] It typically involves subtle methods of coercion such as intimidation.[/QUOTE] Do you also think child pornography, racial hate crimes are bullshit, since it involves both bullying and cyber-bullying? Your logic has flaws and you don't see them.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42209573]Do you also think child pornography, racial hate crimes are bullshit, since it involves both bullying and cyber-bullying? Your logic has flaws and you don't see them.[/QUOTE] Those are crimes in a whole different spectrum. Kids bully other kids for stupid reasons many times, on this time, because of a dispute over a boy. This has nothing to do with child pornography or racial hate crimes. To add to that, we generally refer to bullying when done by kids or teens, hence why we call racism to racial hate crimes, and pedophilia to crimes related to child pornography.
Do you realize how many people suicide because they are lonely? Loneliness plus an unstable mind would still cause suicide. EDIT: So, because it's a child and an adult it doesn't count as bullying or abuse? OKIDOKI MACARONI You win, pointless argument since your beliefs are fucked up.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42209467]And apparently they can't make dummy accounts! :downs: Fuck dude. Either reply or you have effectively proved you're a troll. No replies to the arguments means you are a troll.[/QUOTE] Dummy accounts that can just be blocked off right from the start? Unheard of! Don't pull shit out of your ass like that. It takes time to tell the same thing over and over again to people who don't understand simple stuff.
Damn right it takes time, you don't comprehend that the bullying could spread through the schools. This is my time to leave before rage enters, kudos to anyone who continues to try and convince him.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42209627]Do you realize how many people suicide because they are lonely? Loneliness plus an unstable mind would still cause suicide. EDIT: So, because it's a child and an adult it doesn't count as bullying or abuse? OKIDOKI MACARONI You win, pointless argument since your beliefs are fucked up.[/QUOTE] She wasn't lonely lol, she had just started on a new school, what are you trying to make up now? It's abuse, but nobody calls it bullying, since when do you call racial hate crimes bullying anyway? [editline]16th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Gwoodman;42209659]Damn right it takes time, you don't comprehend that the bullying could spread through the schools. This is my time to leave before rage enters, kudos to anyone who continues to try and convince him.[/QUOTE] Spread through the schools, oh wow, suddenly, the whole world is bullying her, despite the bullying have started after she went back online. Well done. I like how one's opinions are laws here. Very healthy indeed.
this is the greatest debate/soap opera of all time
[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;42209706]this is the greatest debate/soap opera of all time[/QUOTE] I'd call this Judge Judy instead. Instead of laws, we have opinions, in which only one of them is right. Guess it right and you're fine. Guess it wrong and you got people calling you scum of the earth.
Tomorrow on SH: "[I]News: Joe Average, 31, was killed outside of his home yesterday in Minnesota. Police have determined that Average was shot with a .44 handgun as he stepped out his front door through the window of a moving vehicle. Investigators have marked his ex-wife Jane Doe as suspect, whom he'd severed contact with ten years ago after their divorce in Florida.[/I]" [QUOTE=dass]Well [B][I]clearly[/I][/B] that man shouldn't have stepped out of his house, it's his fault that he didn't have the foresight to know that he was going to be shot by someone he hadn't spoken to in years and had last seen miles from where he is currently living.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;42209706]this is the greatest debate/soap opera of all time[/QUOTE] This has been going on since page 8!
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