Green Day Bassist Mike Dirnt Says Band Concerned Over Effect of Violent Video Games On Kids
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guess whoz music i wont listen to just guess
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1BS7XnEZqc"]Looks like he should be following his own advice.[/URL]
Everything is coming full circle.
[QUOTE=kharkovus;50942037]The media complains about violent video games while it then broadcasts and popularizes the idea of shooting up schools and going out with a bang to the mentally ill. Maybe entertainment media isn't the kind of media that's the fucking problem, eh?[/QUOTE]
"Don't scapegoat the media I like, scapegoat the media I [I]don't[/I] like!"
Unless you can empirically prove a causal relationship between news about school shootings and actual school shootings, aren't you just being a hypocrite?
meanwhile his band actively plays song that often more than 'just' dabble in prostitution, drug usage both perscription and illegal kinds, murder, suicide, and miscellaneous other forms of violence.
Yeah k there bud
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;50942468]"Don't scapegoat the media I like, scapegoat the media I [I]don't[/I] like!"
Unless you can empirically prove a causal relationship between news about school shootings and actual school shootings, aren't you just being a hypocrite?[/QUOTE]
Was a link not established between the publication of mass murderers and the coverage they received? People who saw the glamorization of killers just got the incentive from the media.
[url]http://www.newsweek.com/media-reporters-cover-mass-killings-umpqua-shooting-378866[/url]
A quick google does turn out a study but I'm not sure the efficacy of it.
The whole idea that fictional media influences and causes people to act in certain ways is completely off base. It badly misrepresents how the human brain works and how it interprets situations.
[QUOTE=hippowombat;50942135]He's just mad because no one in the world gives a shit about Green Day anymore, including his kids.[/QUOTE]
You're wrong. I like Green Day.
[QUOTE=J$ Psychotic;50942590]You're wrong. I like Green Day.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations
What a bunch of melodramatic fools.
So shortly after releasing a song that [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg5Bp_Gzs0s]pretty much is singing about mass shootings in an upbeat fashion?[/url]
Yeah, nah, fuck you Green Day.
That's so punk hell yeah rock n roll (until 8pm and no later and we better not drink too much soda).
Like most people who don't do research on a subject they're "concerned" about, they say stupid things that are factually incorrect.
If a person is ignorant about some subject (and isn't a skeptic) and someone says to them "that thing that kids enjoy has (satanic imagery/violence/anti authority/sexuality/vulgarity etc) in it," their instinctual feeling is basically "think of the children" and, instead of verifying the claim, they assume its true and tell others. People in general aren't skeptics and if someone they know and trust (either a friend, parent, authority figure, news anchor, etc) tells them something they assume what is said is true and don't question it.
This is a problem evident in a lot of areas. Global warming being a "myth" is easily debunked by science, but the common person who doesn't care enough to research it just parrots what someone they heard has said because they really don't care enough to make their own conclusions but trust someone else to do the thinking for them. When you counter that claim with evidence they take it as a personal attack: either attacking their intelligence, attacking the intelligence/trustworthiness of the person they heard said information from, or attacking their identity/self-worth if that information they claim is somehow tied to who they are as a person (religion, politics, etc.). If they were skeptical they would research this information themselves, or if the person countering their information is more trustworthy they'll just believe that instead instead of looking it up themselves.
I honestly think that skepticism is a very healthy trait that isn't emphasized by parents or schools (higher education usually has more of an emphasis at least). People who aren't skeptical or curious about the world around them tend to let other people think/make decisions for them and that's not good for a population. It's obvious Dirnt has done no research on the subject of violence and video games, but somebody probably told him this "violence in the media is bad" shtick and he assumed that to be true. If he cared enough about the subject he would do research himself and make his own conclusion, but he didn't and would rather let someone else make up his opinion for him.
Even if violent video games were bad for kids there's an entire rating system here in place explicitly to advise buyers what's to be expected in the games.
PEGI fucking straight up uses the advised minimal age as the rating itself. It's literally impossible to miss the rating and the contents are explicitly described on the back of the box.
If we lived in a world where video games were legitimately, scientifically proven to be the source of erratic, violent behavior in children, then it'd be the parents' duty to keep the games away from their kids.
Fucking hate "concerned parents" who can't be arsed to give a toss about their kid's education and want everyone around them to nanny the little buggers for them.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;50942805]So shortly after releasing a song that [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg5Bp_Gzs0s]pretty much is singing about mass shootings in an upbeat fashion?[/url]
Yeah, nah, fuck you Green Day.[/QUOTE]
It's in an upbeat fashion because it's supposed to be from the perspective of a mass shooter. Since mass shootings are popular now, it makes sense that a band that wrote songs about drugs in the 90s and war in the 00s would make a song about shootings in the 10s.
Violent video games do not create violent children.
Maybe he should write up a paper on how that Green Day song "Kill the DJ" has caused a mass DJ purge.
Oh wait.
How much longer until he goes full Mustaine?
This seems really dumb considering I was watching the documentary thing about then making their not so great recent trilogy, and there was a segment where Billie talked about how mike and him dropped acid when they were 18 and discussed about beating the shit out of a cashier of a shop because they wouldn't sell them cigarettes.
I like green day (I know fuck me for liking a shit thing), but Mike needs to think what he says sometimes. I bet you a good percentage of his audience also play and love videogames, and also have never tried to kill people because of it.
wouldnt violent video games reduce violence in real life?
since y'know, they give you a space to vent out your frustration without harming anyone
A band that writes aggressive tunes, says that aggression is to blame elsewhere? HUH OK.
Regardless of what you think now, give it 20 years and a couple of kids and you'll probably be moaning about the same thing. Of course by then you'll be justifying that you are correct because of the difference in graphic technology. It's the same generational shit which will repeat over and over again.
How haven't I went on a killing spree yet?
[editline]25th August 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=cyanidem;50944705]Regardless of what you think now, give it 20 years and a couple of kids and you'll probably be moaning about the same thing. Of course by then you'll be justifying that you are correct because of the difference in graphic technology. It's the same generational shit which will repeat over and over again.[/QUOTE]
Maybe if tech evolves to the point where it injects itself into your brain and somehow accidentaly changes you into a killer...
hey american parents
you know what affects kids a lot more than violent video games
bad divorces
fuckers
That's so punk, wow
Remember when people said the same shit about punk music?
I guess that stopped when bands like Green Day watered it down to commercial radio-friendly crap
[quote]And that’s got to take a toll, but I don’t have the solutions[/quote]
Translation: I think it's an issue but why bother with actual facts, am I right?
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50943996]Video games helped me read, since Legend of Zelda series is all text dialogue.
I'd ask my parents, "Mom, Come here!"
"...what does this word mean?" and I'd point at the screen.
People under-estimate the good that videogames can do.[/QUOTE]
Gotta agree with that, my vocabulary was greatly improved from all the games I was playing growing up. I even remember when I was a kid, I learned how to spell the word "party" because of Mario Party :v:
We're like three generations into the age of video game entertainment, with the youngest one having almost no people who haven't played violent video games, and yet, somehow, all the 18-35 year old aren't mass murderers
Well they're right, I played Call of Duty 16: Murder Simulator and now all I want to do is kill people. There is no possibility that this is a massive stretch in logic.
"Hey, I got a great idea! Lets get this old boy band burn out to speak about old false political stances that is no where near his expertise!"
I blame the publishers of this article more than I blame this bassist for his lack of perspective and knowledge on the topic.
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