• Jupiter And Saturn May Be Rich In Diamonds
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they have been researching how to make diamonds since the late 1940s, its an industry like all others and while they are expensive to make, they pay for themselves because of the massive amount of applications people need [editline]10th October 2013[/editline] [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Bars2.jpg[/t] the real way to get diamonds, no blood needed
[QUOTE=Dacheet;42472712]Suddenly NASA's budget skyrockets.[/QUOTE] with Titan also on the list of "Highly useful stuff on it" NASA better :v:
99% of diamonds are functionally worthless, they are used in sandpaper, grinding wheels and drill-bits. It'd probably be the same deal on Jupiter and Saturn, most of them would not be jewelry-grade
[QUOTE=Sableye;42476542]its actually kinda easy.... stick a sliver of real diamond and graphite into then wait a few days, and voila, a few lbs of diamond powder[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sableye;42476553]they have been researching how to make diamonds since the late 1940s, its an industry like all others and while they are expensive to make, they pay for themselves because of the massive amount of applications people need [editline]10th October 2013[/editline] the real way to get diamonds, no blood needed[/QUOTE] wasn't that in a mythbusters episode? Well, ok, different, "Making diamonds with explosives" but they also did that compression ones too and theres no way that stuff even comes close to the real deal, no way
[QUOTE=J!NX;42476604]wasn't that in a mythbusters episode? Well, ok, different, "Making diamonds with explosives" but they also did that compression ones too and theres no way that stuff even comes close to the real deal, no way[/QUOTE] Except the man-made stuff is actually better than the real deal due to it not having any sort of imperfections.
Are we seriously suggesting mining Jupiter for diamonds? Yes, let's just dive through that [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere_of_Jupiter"]lethal radioactive death band thousands of times stronger than Earth's radiation belt[/URL] and plunge into an [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter#Mass"]extremely strong gravity well[/URL], falling through [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Jupiter#Vertical_structure"]three hundred kilometers of ammonia ice and assorted lethality[/URL] to gather some rocks in a swirling vortex of pressure thousands of times greater than anything we've ever dealt with (at such extreme pressure and temperature that [I]diamond is liquid[/I]), before climbing back through [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_velocity#List_of_escape_velocities"]an escape velocity more than five times Earth's[/URL]. At least Saturn is a little more reasonable, but still within the realm of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn#Cloud_layers"]total fiction[/URL]. It would be cheaper and more practical to extract all the diamond hiding in the far corners of the Earth than to go to either planet. This is a scientific achievement, not a financial one.
[QUOTE=catbarf;42476817]Are we seriously suggesting mining Jupiter for diamonds? Yes, let's just dive through that [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere_of_Jupiter"]lethal radioactive death band thousands of times stronger than Earth's radiation belt[/URL] and plunge into an [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter#Mass"]extremely strong gravity well[/URL], falling through [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Jupiter#Vertical_structure"]three hundred kilometers of ammonia ice and assorted lethality[/URL] to gather some rocks in a swirling vortex of pressure thousands of times greater than anything we've ever dealt with (at such extreme pressure and temperature that [I]diamond is liquid[/I]), before climbing back through [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_velocity#List_of_escape_velocities"]an escape velocity more than five times Earth's[/URL]. At least Saturn is a little more reasonable, but still within the realm of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn#Cloud_layers"]total fiction[/URL]. It would be cheaper and more practical to extract all the diamond hiding in the far corners of the Earth than to go to either planet. This is a scientific achievement, not a financial one.[/QUOTE] We'll just go in orbit and lower down a bucket on a rope and wait a while. Then we pull up a bucket with diamonds.
If we find a planet of oil, who knows, maybe NASA will finally get a government budget.
That means literally nothing. They're gas giants, there's no way in hell we could "mine" those, even if they weren't so far away. Not to mention that even if we found diamonds, oil and gold on the moon we probably still wouldn't give a shit.
If we found oil on Earth's moon, we would probably be moving to colonize it faster. It's not like Titan where it's a ways away. It'd still be a bitch to get there, but it wouldn't take anywhere near as long.
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;42478024]If we found oil on Earth's moon, we would probably be moving to colonize it faster. It's not like Titan where it's a ways away. It'd still be a bitch to get there, but it wouldn't take anywhere near as long.[/QUOTE] "if we found a valuable, world-wide used resource nearby we'd be trying to get it." [I]wow really no way[/I]
[QUOTE=Lemon.;42478265]"if we found a valuable, world-wide used resource nearby we'd be trying to get it." [I]wow really no way[/I][/QUOTE] Way to read the post I was obviously replying to.
I'm suprised no one's made an old spice reference yet. ("The planet is now diamonds!")
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;42478340]Way to read the post I was obviously replying to.[/QUOTE] at least use the reply button [QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;42478359]I'm suprised no one's made an old spice reference yet. ("The planet is now diamonds!")[/QUOTE] [t]http://scm-l3.technorati.com/11/08/25/50093/diamond-planet.jpg?t=20110825153542[/t]
I wasn't aware it was going to put me on the next page, otherwise I would've.
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;42480508]I wasn't aware it was going to put me on the next page, otherwise I would've.[/QUOTE] you should always use reply, just makes it easier
[QUOTE=ironman17;42472866]From a resource standpoint diamond is pretty useful; even if we already have lots of the things on Earth already, a surplus of diamond would definitely be a plus. Sure it'd probably deflate the price and "perceived value" of diamond, but with the industrial applications of such a material, it'd probably be a bit of an industry bonus. Then again, the value would still likely be rather high for Jovian diamond, considering the cost involved in the creation and maintenance of mining vessels, the cost of cargo vessels transporting the processed diamond material, keeping the orbital station up to scratch, etc. But one bonus would be that fuel costs probably wouldn't be all that much of an issue since Jupiter and Saturn are pretty much made of hydrogen.[/QUOTE] WE have a huge surplus of diamond. Most of it is just locked back in a bunch of vaults though. not to mention technical diamonds are better for most applications.
[QUOTE=RalphMoors;42475587]im doing that right now....[/QUOTE] I like you, you're cool.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;42473835]They're a pretty tough material. You can see them used in a bunch of industrial equipment. We have plenty on Earth, though - every wedding ring has one or two and there's thousands of pounds of the stuff sitting around. Saying that there are diamonds in Jupiter and Saturn is sort of stating the expected. You mean these ultra-high-pressure environments have a very common element in them? Whoa.[/QUOTE] Industries would most likely prefer tungsten carbide more than diamond.
[QUOTE=Blazyd;42475361]Breaking news: everyone on board dies because Jupiter has no solid surface[/QUOTE] Jupiter probably has a solid surface, actually. It's just under 30 miles of gas clouds, 13,000 miles of hydrogen and helium in both gaseous and liquid forms, and then another 25,000 miles of liquid hydrogen. The core's probably about 1.5 times the size of Earth as a whole. You could probably reach it if you found a way to make a giant submarine that could withstand pressures millions of times stronger than anything you could find on Earth, plus 55 thousand degrees fahrenheit. [editline]10th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Ice Tea;42481236]Industries would most likely prefer tungsten carbide more than diamond.[/QUOTE] probably for most larger-scale equipment. stuff like drillbits and more consumer-based equipment can be found with diamond in it regularly.
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