Vegetarians are less healthy and have a lower quality of life than meat-eaters, scientists say
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Why all the zings? Why do people always feel like some sort of master race because they eat meat? What does it matter if someone doesn't, it's a life choice and we should respect that.
I'm not even a vegetarian I just think it's basic bitch shit to be a nob to someone because their choices that don't even affect you
[QUOTE=Killuah;44469517]Holy fucking shit.
Of course in an established meat-eating society this will yield you vegetarians who actually [B]think[/B] they are less healty/need to be more healthy and visit the doctors much less.[/QUOTE]
this might be the dumbest shit I've read all week
we've been eating meat long before any "society." unless you don't want to have everything your body needs get the fuck over it. if you want to be a little unhealthy then go for it
how do people not understand the most basic concept ever? remember in elementary school when you learned that humans were something called "omnivores??"
[QUOTE=BCell;44470165]You can't be a pure carnivore. You need vegetables and fruits for healthier immune system.[/QUOTE]Yes you can, you can eat nothing but other creatures and easily survive doing that. Thing is, most carnivores target specific organs or parts of a carcass because it's [i]nutrient rich[/i] and they're usually the gross parts humans tend to be repulsed by. This is where the myth originates, the vitamin deficiencies that come from selectively eating only the parts that aren't "icky."
Vegetarians need to basically do this too, but for the nutrients best found in meat. Vegans are a perfect example of this, those without supplements usually have the stereotypical "vegetarian" body, thin, malnourished, and so on despite not actually starving. They look that way because their muscles atrophied due to lack of essential nutrients, and they've lost body fat because the body consumed all of it looking for them. Don't think I'm picking on vegans here, I'm sure there's some dumb motherfucker out there who's trying to prove a point by eating nothing but hamburger meat and bacon. You'll be able to identify such a magnificent retard because they'll have scurvy and probably be extremely fat.
[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;44470727]It's mainly due to the stereotype of vegetarians as being the ones who tout "We're better than you" attitude. Of course most don't, but the stereotype cant be helped.[/QUOTE]
There's a stereotype on both sides. In which each "side" thinks their better than the other. People need to get over it
[QUOTE=TaniaTiger;44470751]There's a stereotype on both sides. In which each "side" thinks their better than the other. People need to get over it[/QUOTE]
people who eat animals and don't patronize people who don't are an extreme anomaly. I wouldn't call that a stereotype, it's just society's inherent xenophobia.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;44470788]people who eat animals and don't patronize people who don't are an extreme anomaly. I wouldn't call that a stereotype, it's just society's inherent xenophobia.[/QUOTE]Found the vegan
I used to patronize non meat-eating people. At some point I stopped. Now I'm one of them (mostly, I still have the occasional burger when out with friends). I feel exactly as I have my whole life, other than the fact that as a result of eating more vegetables and legumes I can comfortably drop a deuce in less than 10 seconds. And I know I'm just one guy, but I've got to be healthier than self-proclaimed "meatitarians" who eat bacon twice a day.
I am pretty sure that there aren't nutrients only found in meat (that doesn't mean they are at arms length for vegetarians).
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;44471028]Found the vegan[/QUOTE]
found the pedophile
[QUOTE=ASIC;44471064]I am pretty sure that there aren't nutrients only found in meat (that doesn't mean they are at arms length for vegetarians).[/QUOTE]
found myself
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;44471074]found the pedophile[/QUOTE]
wow so xenophobic
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im dead
Whoah, eating a one sided diet is less than optimal for your health? Whodda thought?
More research to be done, also one must consider the psychological beliefs that some may have about being vegetarian or not. (Its not necessarily a 'mind-over-matter' scenario, but it can play a role).
Also, considering I have friends whose dietary restrictions are there because [U]they can't digest meat and get sick because of[/U], further studies should consider why some of their participants are vegetarian from a medical standpoint.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44471199]Whoah, eating a one sided diet is less than optimal for your health? Whodda thought?[/QUOTE]
Not really
The study is really flawed
I don't think those guys are vegetarian.
Back on topic: I find it funny how an Indian website has that article.
If you're worried about your health just eat like humans have for most of history
i.e. mixed foods cooked in a variety of ways(smoked,bbq,boiled,salted,dried) from different species of animals and plants.
follow your instinct and crave above all, don't exagerate and cut on sugary stuff;unless it's honey. i really wish there were more produce sweetened with honey. I love drinking milk with honey. Honey icecream would rock, I should try that combo soon.
Btw are there any fast food chain restaurants in the US focused predominantly on mixing up a bunch of non-meat stuff( with just a little meat thrown in)?
Most of the food chains are focused on the meat part in a meal.
First thing that comes in mind would be burgers and fried chicken.
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;44469556]I like how all their arguments are wrong.[/QUOTE]
It's like. Man Gandhi had a great diet.
Wait why's he so frail?
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[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44471538]It's like. Man Gandhi had a great diet.
Wait why's he so frail?
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Gandhi_spinning.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Being vegan/vegetarian doesn't mean you have to be super skinny. I know a lot of vegans/vegetarians who are nowhere near being dangerously skinny.
You can have a perfectly normal build while having a vegan diet.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44471538]It's like. Man Gandhi had a great diet.
Wait why's he so frail?[/QUOTE]
I'm looking at your name, and I'm trying to figure out how your brain ever got you to this point.
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71 years old
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73 years old
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92 years old
[QUOTE=BCell;44470165]You can't be a pure carnivore. You need vegetables and fruits for healthier immune system.[/QUOTE]
Tell that to the Inuit/Eskimo people. Their diet is 99.9% meat, because plants don't grow where they live (if they're lucky, they might get to eat some form of plant matter in the warmer seasons, but most of the time it's meat). The kicker is that they eat all their meat raw, and they still don't get the diseases or parasites that most people associate with eating raw meat (Because they catch their food themselves rather than rely the processed, industrialized meats most people eat).
It's perfectly possible to eat a pure-meat, no supplements diet, given the right conditions. It's just that the processed meats we get from slaughterhouses do not meet those conditions.
[QUOTE=Irockz;44469405]Protein can be gained in the form of eggs and nuts - infact, most, if not all, of the required nutrients from meat are found in eggs as well. That's why including vegans in this test created an awry result.[/QUOTE]
Eggs and nuts also have a lot of fat, say you eat around 50-60 grams a day, assuming you barely exercise, that's for a sedentary person alone. If someone lifts regularly, they're going to need a lot more than that. A serving size of almonds typically has 6-7 grams of protein, nearly 200 calories, and 15-18 grams of fat. Eggs have 50-80 calories, 6-8 grams of protein, and 5-6 grams of fat. Those are hardly substitutes for meat, especially if someone is losing fat, but wants to maintain as much muscle mass and strength possible. That requires a high protein diet/relatively low fat diet. You could end up ingesting hundreds of grams of fat almost every day just to meat your protein requirements, and that isn't healthy at all.
If it was affordable, I'd be 100% ovo-lacto vegetarian, but it's not. So I eat tuna and the occasional sandwich every week. :v:
Also, bacon is disgusting and I hate fried foods. My diet is mostly just based around what I think tastes the best and it almost always falls within the vegetarian diet.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44471538]It's like. Man Gandhi had a great diet.
Wait why's he so frail?
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Gandhi_spinning.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Because one of the ways he protested was hunger strikes and fasting...
How about we all eat what we want and not argue about it?
[QUOTE=TaniaTiger;44472119]How about we all eat what we want and not argue about it?[/QUOTE]
sgt doom probably wants to eat babies though
Here is why this whole experiment cannot be used as any sort of evidence on the matter of health and herbivore/omnivore/carnivore. They did not take into consideration any of the previous persons health issues, time they have had their current diet, how healthy their diet is (Some vegetarians eat crappy stuff like fries and bread and cheese 80% of meals instead of vegetables, same with meat eaters, Some eat hardies every meal).
They also don't take into consideration the fact some vegetarians are not that by choice but by allergy. Thus they would be lumped as unhealthy due to allergy of meat into the vegetarian category. As well the various vegetarian levels. I myself am pescetarian I eat fish, eggs, dairy but no red meat/poultry/pork ect. It's completely biased to put people of the same style diet into the category of vegans who refuse to eat many forms of protein and essential fats. Because pounding down pure soy and nuts isn't healthy for you either.
Therefore TLDR;
This study does not take into consideration previous lifestyle/health issues.
It's basically like me conducting a study saying diets cause people to be overweight just because 75% of people on a diet are overweight. [B]Correlation does not imply causation[/B]
I'm a vegetarian and I eat fish, fish can't feel pain :downs:
[QUOTE=Soukuw;44472357]I'm a vegetarian and I eat fish, fish can't feel pain :downs:[/QUOTE]
that's called pescatarianism, and that century old myth has been debunked for a very long time. fish have some of the most complex nervous systems in existence.
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