Police Respond To Wrong House And Shoot Its Homeowner when he refuses to put down gun
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Him being an Air Force veteran in his 60s has everything to do with it because that's not a profile that's likely to seek out or trigger violence with police
This guy obviously isn't some angry drunk redneck who ran out in his skivvies waving a shotgun and screaming
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50492889]Him being an Air Force veteran in his 60s has everything to do with it because that's not a profile that's likely to seek out or trigger violence with police
This guy obviously isn't some angry drunk redneck who ran out in his skivvies waving a shotgun and screaming[/QUOTE]
That might apply if the police actually knew that before hand, which they didn't. He did walk out in his pajamas brandishing a firearm, and there was shouting.
[QUOTE=Fort83;50492904]Because cops can identify who is a Air Force vet and who isn't just by looking at them right?[/QUOTE]
Clearly what I meant was that the police's crack team of psychics should've been aware of his background and not that his background means he's unlikely to intentionally cause friction with police officers which would shift blame for irresponsible actions to the police officers who tried to search the wrong house and killed the innocent homeowner
[editline]10th June 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=plunger435;50492905]That might apply if the police actually knew that before hand, which they didn't. He did walk out in his pajamas brandishing a firearm, and there was shouting.[/QUOTE]
We know he was holding a firearm, nowhere was it suggested that he was brandishing (waving/threatening with) it. In fact it says they shot him as he walked out of his garage which means he was barely out of his fucking house.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50492909]Clearly what I meant was that the police's crack team of psychics should've been aware of his background and not that his background means he's unlikely to intentionally cause friction with police officers which would shift blame for irresponsible actions to the police officers who tried to search the wrong house and killed the innocent homeowner
[editline]10th June 2016[/editline]
We know he was holding a firearm, nowhere was it suggested that he was brandishing (waving/threatening with) it. In fact it says they shot him as he walked out of his garage which means he was barely out of his fucking house.[/QUOTE]
I see so we're coming to the conclusion that the police are lying because?
Brandishing means he came out with excited. Which is what the story says.
The police trying to cover their own asses by tweaking their story sounds a lot more likely to me than a 63 year old Air Force veteran deciding he's gonna kill some pigs when they happened to turn up at his house by accident. He obviously didn't know they were cops. Which loops back to them not doing a very good job of identifying themselves. Which wouldn't be an issue if they'd been at the right house to begin with.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50492938]The police trying to cover their own asses by tweaking their story sounds a lot more likely to me than a 63 year old Air Force veteran deciding he's gonna kill some pigs when they happened to turn up at his house by accident. He obviously didn't know they were cops. Which loops back to them not doing a very good job of identifying themselves. Which wouldn't be an issue if they'd been at the right house to begin with.[/QUOTE]
The eye witness report says they were shouting. I'm not sure where you got them not identifying themselves unless you're just assuming the police lied about literally everything they said. At which point why are you still arguing? They probably drove up and shot him for the fun of it.
"Drop the weapon!" is a shout. It doesn't mean he knew they were police.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50492961]"Drop the weapon!" is a shout. It doesn't mean he knew they were police.[/QUOTE]
The first thing officers are trained to do is shout an identification. There is no reason to believe the my only shouted one thing in the entire altercation, not even the eyewitness backs that theory up.
Officers are also trained to, you know, show up at the right building and not cause undue panic.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50490029]How was he supposed to know? Gee I dunno, maybe he hasn't comitted any crimes and knows there's no logical reason for the police to be there? It's not hard, the police only show up for very specific reasons.. Unless it's this case and they just show up and don't bother confirming the house number, and then go on to shoot the owner for disobeying an illegal order.[/QUOTE]
You do realize cops can have reason to visit your house even if you personally never committed a crime. What if an escaped suspect who was violent towards officers was believed to be hiding under your deck? Should the cops scream from the safe distance of the street "Sir we are requesting permission to step foot on your lawn" while the criminal potentially runs off.
They shouldn't shine flashlights into his windows at midnight and act shocked when he shows up with a firearm, that's for sure.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50492983]Officers are also trained to, you know, show up at the right building and not cause undue panic.[/QUOTE]
So we're back again that you're just going to assume the officers are lying about everything?
[editline]10th June 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50492994]They shouldn't shine flashlights into his windows at midnight and act shocked when he shows up with a firearm, that's for sure.[/QUOTE]
Yeah and they weren't surprised because they got a call about exactly that situation happening. Did you forget what this is even about?
[QUOTE=plunger435;50492972]The first thing officers are trained to do is shout an identification. There is no reason to believe the my only shouted one thing in the entire altercation, not even the eyewitness backs that theory up.[/QUOTE]
[quote]A neighbor told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that police didn’t do a good enough job identifying themselves.
“I think the police should identify themselves more if they show up at someone’s house in the middle of the night, instead of just shining lights in their windows,” said Darrell Cooper, who has known Powell for at least 30 years. “He’s a fine man.”
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Apparently these guys need a remedial course, then.
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;50493093]Apparently these guys need a remedial course, then.[/QUOTE]
Except he didn't see them pull up, or hear everything they said to him.
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;50493093]Apparently these guys need a remedial course, then.[/QUOTE]
[quote]“I think the police should identify themselves more if they show up at someone’s house in the middle of the night, instead of just shining lights in their windows,” said [B]Darrell Cooper[/B], who has known Powell for at least 30 years. “He’s a fine man.”
[B]Cooper did not witness the shooting.[/B][/quote]
[url]http://www.myajc.com/news/news/crime-law/gbi-officers-respond-to-wrong-house-shoot-homeowne/nrcj8/?wpmm=1&wpisrc=nl_daily202[/url]
Because he magically knows how well the police identified themselves despite not being there?
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50492803]You insult my and others' intelligence by playing dumb, that term carries a strong racial connotation and you fucking know it[/QUOTE]
"Gang banger" is just another word for "Gang member", seriously google it, it has no racial connotations.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50492873][url]http://www.myajc.com/news/news/crime-law/gbi-officers-respond-to-wrong-house-shoot-homeowne/nrcj8/[/url]
The only mention that their lights were on was after the shooting. They were snooping.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't mention their [I]police[/I] lights at all. I think it can safely be assumed that the lights were on when they arrived at a reported shooting, and were left on as they always are during operations.
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