• Monster gets 422 years for 19-hour rape and torture of Columbia student
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[QUOTE=Eluveitie;22767974]Prison is the best place for him. Other inmates will probably do the same things he did to that woman he tortured.[/QUOTE] The best place for him is off this world. Burn the garbage, don't throw it in a dark corner and forget about it.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22768016]You act like they want to kill him for no reason[/QUOTE] No. I act like the existence of the death penalty brings into question many things you don't seem to realize. Killing anyone under any conditions is wrong, eye for an eye does not work.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;22768167]No. I act like the existence of the death penalty brings into question many things you don't seem to realize. Killing anyone under any conditions is wrong, eye for an eye does not work.[/QUOTE] Elaborate. (I just want to get a better idea of your thoughts on the situation.)
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22767240]it's funny because I'm not the one saying that a torturer is equal to all[/QUOTE] You said people who violate the human rights of others by torturing them are lesser beings so what does that make the executioner? Also a monster? Let's see your monster scale please And where do I rank on this scale oh wise one
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22768228]You said people who violate the human rights of others by torturing them are lesser beings so what does that make the executioner? Also a monster? Let's see your monster scale please And where do I rank on this scale oh wise one[/QUOTE] God you're so ridiculous, no one on FP agrees with you except your 3 man brigade of You, JDK, and Abyss.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22768241]God you're so ridiculous, no one on FP agrees with you except your 3 man brigade of You, JDK, and Abyss.[/QUOTE] And Lankist, he's agreeing with us from within the abyss that was kind of a pun But hey, luckily, popular opinion isn't always right. This is a good example of that. Everyone likes to think they're so moral and that they should get to decide what happens to people they deem to be lesser. That's dangerous.
She [B][I]SURVIVED?![/I][/B] [B][/B] I'd like to see a picture of her, it must be terrible.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22768228]You said people who violate the human rights of others by torturing them are lesser beings so what does that make the executioner? Also a monster? Let's see your monster scale please And where do I rank on this scale oh wise one[/QUOTE] The executioner isn't killing the person so they can get their money, or so they can rape them, or because hes insane. Its his job. Also, the executioner is not torturing anyone... [editline]05:48AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Mister B;22768277]She [B][I]SURVIVED?![/I][/B] [B][/B] I'd like to see a picture of her, it must be terrible.[/QUOTE] I know. It must be horrifying.
[QUOTE=Dole;22768299]The executioner isn't killing the person so they can get their money, or so they can rape them, or because hes insane. Its his job. [/QUOTE] Systematically killing people because you are told to do so by the state is many times worse than doing it because you are a sociopath
I want them to be like they are going to kill them but then they are like "just kidding you're gonna sit in the cell for the rest of your life hurr" death is too good for him.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22768256]And Lankist, he's agreeing with us from within the abyss that was kind of a pun But hey, luckily, popular opinion isn't always right. This is a good example of that. Everyone likes to think they're so moral and that they should get to decide what happens to people they deem to be lesser. That's dangerous.[/QUOTE] No opinion is ever right, but it's safe to assume that when nearly everyone in the world agrees to something, it's probably more correct than the other
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22767855]Normal logic dictates that people who torture others aren't equal to me or you[/QUOTE] Oh so [I]now[/I] hating people and treating them as animals is alright. Get your shit straight, can we kill people if we want to or not? [editline]05:52AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Gummylamb;22768341]No opinion is ever right, but it's safe to assume that when nearly everyone in the world agrees to something, it's probably more correct than the other[/QUOTE] haha like fuck Ask the alchemists how that worked out for them. [editline]05:53AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Dole;22768299][B]The executioner isn't killing the person so they can get their money,[/B] or so they can rape them, or because hes insane. [B]Its his job. [/B]Also, the executioner is not torturing anyone... [editline]05:48AM[/editline] I know. It must be horrifying.[/QUOTE] :downs:
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22768318]Systematically killing people because you are told to do so by the state is many times worse than doing it because you are a sociopath[/QUOTE] What is your logic behind that? The monster had no real reason to do anything to that girl, he just wanted sex. Its the executioner's job to kill people. He has to feed himself, provide for himself, hes contributing to society somewhat, he might even have a family. Also, If I kill fifty people, and the executioner kills me, that makes him worse then me?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22768318]Systematically killing people because you are told to do so by the state is many times worse than doing it because you are a sociopath[/QUOTE] No not even close at all
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22768344]Oh so [I]now[/I] hating people and treating them as animals is alright. Get your shit straight, can we kill people if we want to or not? [editline]05:52AM[/editline] haha like fuck Ask the alchemists how that worked out for them. [editline]05:53AM[/editline] :downs:[/QUOTE] What I meant was, he is not on the streets mugging or shooting people for their money.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22768344]Oh so [I]now[/I] hating people and treating them as animals is alright. Get your shit straight, can we kill people if we want to or not? [editline]05:52AM[/editline] haha like fuck Ask the alchemists how that worked out for them. [editline]05:53AM[/editline] :downs:[/QUOTE] What do you mean ask the alchemists
[QUOTE=Dole;22768373]What I meant was, he is not on the streets mugging or shooting people for their money.[/QUOTE] Oh right, he's just killing people in an institution. Well, that's much better, thanks for clearing that up for me.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22768406]Oh right, he's just killing people in an institution. Well, that's much better, thanks for clearing that up for me.[/QUOTE] It's more like "killing people who were decided by a judge (and jury? I dunno to be honest) to deserve it"
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22768395]What do you mean ask the alchemists[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy[/url] Read up, you might learn something.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22768406]Oh right, he's just killing people in an institution. Well, that's much better, thanks for clearing that up for me.[/QUOTE] What? I, I don't even know how to reply to that.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22768412]It's more like "killing people who were decided by a judge (and jury? I dunno to be honest) to deserve it"[/QUOTE] Well if we can just decide who lives and who dies I don't see why we can't burn us some furries. [editline]05:59AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Dole;22768419]What? I, I don't even know how to reply to that.[/QUOTE] That's because you have no point. You're making an arbitrary distinction.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22768428]Well if we can just decide who lives and who dies I don't see why we can't burn us some furries.[/QUOTE] Because furries didn't torture and rape some girl rofl
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22768428]Well if we can just decide who lives and who dies I don't see why we can't burn us some furries. [editline]05:59AM[/editline] That's because you have no point. You're making an arbitrary distinction.[/QUOTE] No, its mostly because that was really stupid. My point is that the executioner is not out raping and torturing people, then killing them. I cant even believe you people are relating the executioner to the monster.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22768440]Because furries didn't torture and rape some girl rofl[/QUOTE] They torture and rape my childhood, therefor I find them deserving of death. Tell me why my logic is different from yours.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22768440] rofl[/QUOTE] Really, the "ROFL" or "LOL" in every sentence does not help.
[QUOTE=Dole;22768447]No, its mostly because that was really stupid. My point is that the executioner is not out raping and torturing people, then killing them. I cant even believe you people are relating the executioner to the monster.[/QUOTE] Oh, so they should only be killed when they botch the job? Which does happen, by the way. You ever taken the wrong dose of the lethal injection before? Nasty stuff man. Nasty stuff.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22768452]They torture and rape my childhood, therefor I find them deserving of death. Tell me why my logic is different from yours.[/QUOTE] Are you really relating the defilement of your memories to a girl who was tortured and raped?
[QUOTE=Dole;22768473]Are you really relating the defilement of your memories to a girl who was tortured and raped?[/QUOTE] No, not quite. What I'm trying to tell you is that revoking someone's status as a human and treating them as less than human is no better than what you accuse them of. You should all rent the movie M, it deals with this topic rather well. It's also a masterpiece of German expressionism.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22768515]No, not quite. What I'm trying to tell you is that revoking someone's status as a human and treating them as less than human is no better than what you accuse them of. You should all rent the movie M, it deals with this topic rather well. It's also a masterpiece of German expressionism.[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone on this earth believes that torturers are equal to you or me Maybe they believe they should be allowed to live and all, but equal to you or me? No fucking way
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22768515]No, not quite. What I'm trying to tell you is that revoking someone's status as a human and treating them as less than human is no better than what you accuse them of. You should all rent the movie M, it deals with this topic rather well. It's also a masterpiece of German expressionism.[/QUOTE] The man was accused of torturing and raping a girl. He gouged her damn eyes out for christ's sake. I accuse him, along with others, of being a monster. He sure as hell did not act like a human. Humans don't regularly go around raping and torturing (Except vikings, but everyone loves them) young girls. I will look into that movie though.
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