Monster gets 422 years for 19-hour rape and torture of Columbia student
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[QUOTE=hypno-toad;22688016]
When was the last time that you had to pay huge volumes of cash to make something rot?[/QUOTE]
Same time I wanted to keep it away from society.
[QUOTE=johanz;22687968]Wow great logic, what are you going to do now? Punish prison guards?
Soon enough we will run out of guards, what then?[/QUOTE]
I'm joking, it's a drastic exaggeration.
Ah, my mistake then. Keeping him in prison is the [U]only[/U] option considering the death sentence is not a viable option in New York.
If this was indeed Col[U]o[/U]mbia they could probably take him out back behind a shed and shoot him, and nobody would care.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;22688016]This is Columbia. I highly doubt one death sentence is going to cost what 60 years of guard salaries and food would cost.
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You just don't get it do you?
[url]http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty[/url]
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;22688163]If this was indeed Col[U]o[/U]mbia they could probably take him out back behind a shed and shoot him, and nobody would care.[/QUOTE]
probably because Colombia doesn't give a shit about human rights
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;22688163]nobody would care.[/QUOTE]
you say that as if it's a good thing
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;22688163]Ah, my mistake then. Keeping him in prison is the [U]only[/U] option.
If this was indeed Col[U]o[/U]mbia they could probably take him out back behind a shed and shoot him, and nobody would care.[/QUOTE]
If it was colombia, no one would care for his crimes.
Oh my good.
Actually lost for words, it's that disgusting.
Some criminals need rehabilitation. This guy is beyond that.
What happened to Mr. Big Sheriff man, did mommy make a grilled cheese?
[QUOTE=Zambies!;22688222]Oh my good.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mexican;22682342]He might get off in 345 years for god behavior.[/QUOTE]
:irony:
Jesus Christ.
If simply executing him wasn't such an expensive job in the US, that'd be much more fitting for the case. But that's not how it works there, so now I'm not even sure why there was any discussion in the first place.
Frankly, there's no black and white here. If you think he should be kept in prison, as apposed to a quick and cheap death, then you're just outright wrong. But, under the circumstances, there's one, and only one sentencing option that can be done, so there's no point in arguing about "what should have been done" anyways.
JDK, I'm all for prisoner rights, but this case is so increidbly extreme that I don't think much of my beliefs apply to the situation. He raped her repeatedly, cut off her eyelids, blided her with bleach, poured boiling water on her, glued her lips closed, and to top it off he lit her on fire and left. If the legal circumstances were different, this man should have simply been executed in the cheapest way possible. You don't cage a monster up until he dies of old age, you kill him so you don't have to worry about him harming anybody else.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;22688536]If simply executing him wasn't such an expensive job in the US, that'd be much more fitting for the case. But that's not how it works there, so now I'm not even sure why there was any discussion in the first place.
Frankly, there's no black and white here. If you think he should be kept in prison, as apposed to a quick and cheap death, then you're just outright wrong. But, under the circumstances, there's one, and only one sentencing option that can be done, so there's no point in arguing about "what should have been done" anyways.
JDK, I'm all for prisoner rights, but this case is so increidbly extreme that I don't think much of my beliefs apply to the situation. He raped her repeatedly, cut off her eyelids, blided her with bleach, poured boiling water on her, glued her lips closed, and to top it off he lit her on fire and left. If the legal circumstances were different, this man should have simply been executed in the cheapest way possible. You don't cage a monster up until he dies of old age, you kill him so you don't have to worry about him harming anybody else.[/QUOTE]
The point of prison is to punish them. If you were the victim here you wouldn't him to die a pretty much painless death.
Keep him alive by any means no matter how painful.
Just hold an ether rag over his face until he passes out and cut his throat.
Ether $2-3 (retail prices)
Blade free-$20
Pretty cheap and painless.
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;22688957]Keep him alive by any means no matter how painful.[/QUOTE]
Uhh, to keep him alive all you got to do is give him food.
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[QUOTE=User-Maat-Re;22688964]Just hold an ether rag over his face until he passes out and cut his throat.
Ether $2-3 (retail prices)
Blade free-$20
Pretty cheap and painless.[/QUOTE]
And be a murderer yourself, great logic.
[QUOTE=User-Maat-Re;22688964]Just hold an ether rag over his face until he passes out and cut his throat.
Ether $2-3 (retail prices)
Blade free-$20
Pretty cheap and painless.[/QUOTE]
No it's not.
The money comes from legal fees and actually working out if the person is actually guilty.
Your barbaric method would just kill hundreds of innocent people.
So, to answer the question of how she survived gouging out her own eyes, I found an article on the NY Times that answered the question:
[quote]And now, Ms. Prunty said, he was asking the woman to gouge out her own eyes with a pair of scissors.
And so the woman, sitting on the floor of her studio apartment in Hamilton Heights and holding a pair of scissors between her knees — the blade pointing toward her face — tried to stop the suffering. She lowered her face to the blade, but turned her head at the last moment, trying to stab herself in the neck instead of her eyes.
The scissors slipped from her grasp, the suicide attempt failed, and the woman suffered several more hours of torture, Ms. Prunty said.[/quote]
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/nyregion/06rape.html?_r=1[/url]
[QUOTE=johanz;22689031]And be a murderer yourself, great logic.[/QUOTE]
Calm down. I'm just playfully suggesting cheaper ways to do it.
[QUOTE=User-Maat-Re;22689242]Calm down. I'm just playfully suggesting cheaper ways to do it.[/QUOTE]
Too bad it still would cost a lot for legal paperwork.
If you don't do legal paperwork, you will be killing tons of innocents too.
[QUOTE=User-Maat-Re;22689242]Calm down. I'm just playfully suggesting cheaper ways to do it.[/QUOTE]
No you're not.
You are suggesting more brutal and expensive ways of killing someone.
And the fact that you would cut their throat means that, essentially, you are on the same level as this criminal and should share a cell with him. Ok, not as brutal, but you are definately at his level.
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22682904]They really should just hang him, or put a cheap .22 bullet into his skull, preferably entering from the back of the head.
It'll save taxpayer money, and send him on his way to either whatever lies beyond, or simply wipe him from this earth for what he did.[/QUOTE]
No. Torture him instead. He deserves it.
[QUOTE=viper shtf;22689416]No. Torture him instead. He deserves it.[/QUOTE]
And you should share a cell with him too.
He killed once before and had tried to kill again before doing this. Why the hell wasn't he in prison or dead?
[QUOTE=Logidru;22689374]No you're not.
You are suggesting more brutal and expensive ways of killing someone.
And the fact that you would cut their throat means that, essentially, you are on the same level as this criminal and should share a cell with him. Ok, not as brutal, but you are definately at his level.[/QUOTE]
Fuck. If someone were to kill me, that'd be just about the best death I could hope for. Just being drugged to the point of passing out and that's all there is.
I wasn't being serious. Just the first cheap and painless thing that came to my head.
I hope people who offer torture are 12.
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[QUOTE=User-Maat-Re;22689513]Fuck. If someone were to kill me, that'd be just about the best death I could hope for. Just being drugged to the point of passing out and that's all there is.
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The point is, if it were you, you could kill him in either self defense or revenge. But since you work for government, you do not do that.
[QUOTE=User-Maat-Re;22689513]Fuck. If someone were to kill me, that'd be just about the best death I could hope for. Just being drugged to the point of passing out and that's all there is.
I wasn't being serious. Just the first cheap and painless thing that came to my head.[/QUOTE]
The expense doesn't come from the method. It comes from the courtcases, appeals, lawyers etc. that are needed to make sure they are guilty.
Your method would only increase the cost as it is far more brutal and disgusting and innocent people being subjected to it would cause a far larger public outcry.
[QUOTE=johanz;22689312]Too bad it still would cost a lot for legal paperwork.
If you don't do legal paperwork, you will be killing tons of innocents too.[/QUOTE]
It takes an awful lot to get the death sentence... damning evidence, a terrible crime(s), then the entire jury has to agree that you did it. I say they deserve appeals, but honestly, how hard is it to kill somebody? There is no need for it to be so expensive. How does paperwork save innocent lives, anyway? "Fill in your name here... oh sorry wrong guy".
Before anybody accuses me of not supporting the appeals process(I know I stated it already, but someone apparently didn't read my last post before responding to it) I fully support the idea. I just think it shouldn't cost so damn much to be sure that somebody is not wrongfully imprisoned.
You guys act like he deserves worse, they are gonna beat the living organs out of him in jail. Just what he needs.
I wasn't suggesting to do away with the legal process. This is the execution in and of itself.
I'm speaking of that moment when someone hired by the government is charged with the job of taking your life away. The execution in and of itself. The legal pathway to this moment is an entirely different subject. I had in mind a humane and cheap method of execution.
Not that any method is humane.
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