• Robot passes self-awareness test
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[QUOTE][B]Roboticists at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in New York have built a trio of robots that were put through the classic 'wise men puzzle' test of self-awareness - and one of them passed.[/B] In the puzzle, a fictional king is choosing a new advisor and gathers the three wisest people in the land. He promises the contest will be fair, then puts either a blue or white hat on each of their heads and tells them all that the first person to stand up and correctly deduce the colour of their own hat will become his new advisor. [B]Selmer Bringsjord set up a similar situation for the three robots - two were prevented from talking, then all three were asked which one was still able to speak. All attempt to say "I don't know", but only one succeeds - and when it hears its own voice, it understands that it was not silenced, saying "Sorry, I know now!"[/B] However, as we can assume that all three robots were coded the same, technically, all three have passed this self-awareness test. [B]It might sound a pretty simple task for a human, but it's not for a robot - the bot must listen to and understand the question, then hear their own voice saying "I don't know" and recognise it as distinct from another robot's voice, then connect that with the original question to conclude that they hadn't been silenced.[/B] Logical puzzles requiring an element of self-awareness like this are essential in building robots that can understand their role in society. By passing many tests of this type, it's hoped that robots will be able to build up a group of human-like abilities that become useful when combined. [B]Bringsjord's work will be presented at the RO-MAN conference in Japan, which runs from 31 August to 4 September 2015.[/B][/QUOTE] [video=youtube;MceJYhVD_xY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MceJYhVD_xY[/video] [URL="http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/uh-oh-this-robot-just-passed-the-self-awareness-test-1299362"]Source[/URL]
Holy shit.
Time to give it citizenship and tell it to go find a job.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48244163]Time to give it citizenship and tell it to go find a job.[/QUOTE] holy shit they warned us they knew they're coming for our jobs
I don't really see what is so impressive about this. Surely it is not difficult to program a bot to hear itself and react accordingly?
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;48244166]Is there still time to let them run for president? Having one with self-awareness would be great.[/QUOTE] By then, the robot's solution to fixing up everything is basically wiping us out.
Good, where is the fun in having Robot slaves that aren't aware of the suffering from their enslavement?
[QUOTE=ferrus;48244178]I don't really see what is so impressive about this. Surely it is not difficult to program a bot to hear itself and react accordingly?[/QUOTE] The impressive part is that they didn't program it to specifically solve this problem.
[QUOTE=ferrus;48244178]I don't really see what is so impressive about this. Surely it is not difficult to program a bot to hear itself and react accordingly?[/QUOTE] Obviously that wouldn't be self-awarness then. You could also program a robot to say "I have feelings" and to say "ouch" whenever it gets hit. That wouldn't mean it's actually sentient like a human. The AI ended up realising on its own that it could speak. That is the interesting part.
Definitely impressive but self-awareness/consciousness seems doubtful.
First we create them, then they rule us!
Ehhh, this is cool but I wouldn't call it self-consciousness. Something feels off. Gimme the code.
Interesting? Yes. Self Conscious? No..
I think I understand now. So essentially, it made a mistake by not keeping quiet, realized that it made the mistake, but used that knowledge to answer the question. Mistakes are human. That's quite a cool result.
I would not say this is self consciousness as much as self awareness and really its just some simple coding to make this happen. Tell it how to play the game with code. If it hears its self or knows that it speaker is going off then it was the one that spoke. In which case make it say "sorry I know now" And I know some of you had said it wasn't programmed for this reason but anything with a bunch of sensors could play this game.
I'd like to know why the two others didn't appear to try speaking (standing up).
[QUOTE=Jacob_sword;48244310]I would not say this is self consciousness as much as self awareness and really its just some simple coding to make this happen. Tell it how to play the game with code. If it hears its self or knows that it speaker is going off then it was the one that spoke. In which case make it say "sorry I know now" And I know some of you had said it wasn't programmed for this reason but anything with a bunch of sensors could play this game.[/QUOTE] Uh no. That's wrong.
[QUOTE='Poesidan [GAG];48244263']I think I understand now. So essentially, it made a mistake by not keeping quiet, realized that it made the mistake, but used that knowledge to answer the question. Mistakes are human. That's quite a cool result.[/QUOTE] No it tried to speak by saying it didn't know what pill it took, and upon being able to speak found out it did not take the dumbing pill. There was no mistake.
[QUOTE=ReaperSWE;48244317]I'd like to know why the two others didn't appear to try speaking (standing up).[/QUOTE] The co-author of the paper posted this on Reddit - [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/3dif4d/uhoh_a_robot_just_passed_the_selfawareness_test/ct5nadt[/url] [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/3dif4d/uhoh_a_robot_just_passed_the_selfawareness_test/ct5g4p0[/url]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48244163]Time to give it citizenship and tell it to go find a job.[/QUOTE] Better teach it about bootstraps.
I think it's a mistake to think of consciousness as a binary "yes that thing is conscious" and "no that thing is not conscious", rather it's a continuous range between things that include a basic abstract representation of themselves inside of their model of the world, through things that have a more complex model of themselves and their relationships with their environment that can produce human-like behaviours, and probably way beyond that to agents with reasoning capabilities we can't even imagine. Naturally we default to comparing the behaviour of AI agents to ourselves, but a lot of aspects of how we behave is pretty arbitrary and just a chance result of how our brains developed.
I remain skeptical until I can see the code. I know it's hard to go into detail about the semantics in a single article, but the article itself has too few details other than saying its self-conscious.
"Robot passes folklore test that no scientist actually thinks is a sufficient test of consciousness"
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;48244741]"Robot passes folklore test that no scientist actually thinks is a sufficient test of consciousness"[/QUOTE] What would a sufficient test of consciousness be?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;48244741]"Robot passes folklore test that no scientist actually thinks is a sufficient test of consciousness"[/QUOTE] To be fair, tests of self consciousness aren't the end all/be all. But this test is in-lieu of the [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test"]Mirror Test [/URL](Which is almost the only real "test" of self-awareness).
Jeez what an incredibly lame way of determining something as complex as self-awareness. It basically just solved a puzzle which requires some awareness of the entity that is yourself. Doesn't mean it's self-aware.
Damn, imagine the stuff that's going to happen 10 years from now.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;48244841]Jeez what an incredibly lame way of determining something as complex as self-awareness. It basically just solved a puzzle which requires some awareness of the entity that is yourself. Doesn't mean it's self-aware.[/QUOTE] I think this article and the announcement are way more sensationalized than what should be realized until the proper presentation on Aug 31st. It almost seems like it's an advertisement for the presentation...
[QUOTE=Swebonny;48244841]It basically just solved a puzzle which requires some awareness of the entity that is yourself. Doesn't mean it's self-aware.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure that there is a difference.
Even if its not self-aware, the fact that it's possible for robots to pass these kinds of tests is an admirable achievement in itself.
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