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Oh wow, I was really confused for a bit there.
It is [I]social[/I] libertarian vs social fascism on the Y axis.
The X axis is [I]economic[/I] libertarian (The "corporations know what is best for everyone" folks) on the right and communism on the left.
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[QUOTE=NoDachi;37483465]Yeah take this for example.
"A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system."
I picked agree. Not because I'm a communist or something, but because it's true.[/QUOTE]
I chose disagree because things may be done at a more rapid rate, but calling it "progress" may be incorrect.
[QUOTE=GunFox;37484925]I chose disagree because things may be done at a more rapid rate, but calling it "progress" may be incorrect.[/QUOTE]I disagreed in part for that and also because there can be internal conflicts inside of the party itself. Hell, look at the GOP which was trying to tear itself apart this time last year and still is in some ways.
The idea of a one party state is ridiculous.
It's still two groups of people, they're just under a larger umbrella.
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Who was surprised?
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;37480253]Oh wow, this is terrible. "Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment."
That's like asking my opinion of "Jumping in lakes is fun." Context would be nice. Hot? Frozen? From 300 feet in the air?[/QUOTE]
it's supposed to be ambiguous. First of all, it's used by people from many countries, so they can't really mention specific issues. It's also designed to see what sort of image these phrases bring up in your mind.
Did liberals murder the OP's family or what
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37483465]Yeah take this for example.
"A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system."
I picked agree. Not because I'm a communist or something, but because it's true.[/QUOTE]
But is it? I disagreed, because avoiding arguments is a disadvantage in my mind. Delaying progress can be a very good thing.
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[QUOTE=Grasp;37481901][img]http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.12&soc=-4.62[/img]
Well, that is about what I expected.[/QUOTE]
hey, someone in my region! I was getting lonely.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37485309]But is it? I disagreed, because avoiding arguments is a disadvantage in my mind. Delaying progress can be a very good thing.[/QUOTE]
I was just repeating what The Economist keeps saying how western business is not-very-secretly jealous of the Chinese and Vietnamese Parties ability to Yes/No things nearly instantly.
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[QUOTE=GunFox;37484925]I chose disagree because things may be done at a more rapid rate, but calling it "progress" may be incorrect.[/QUOTE]
It wasn't really a semantic argument.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37485341]I was just repeating what The Economist keeps saying how western business is not-very-secretly jealous of the Chinese and Vietnamese Parties ability to Yes/No things nearly instantly.
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It wasn't really a semantic argument.[/QUOTE]
ah. But do you really think it's a disadvantage?
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37485385]ah. But do you really think it's a disadvantage?[/QUOTE]
Its literally the only credible selling point of the one party system in the modern world, and it is literally the only reason why they still exist.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;37485415]Its literally the only credible selling point of the one party system in the modern world, and it is literally the only reason why they still exist.[/QUOTE]
Okay, so you do. And no, the only reason they exist is because they're authoritarian.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37485271]it's supposed to be ambiguous. First of all, it's used by people from many countries, so they can't really mention specific issues.[/QUOTE]
You can add context to these without making them country-specific. For instance, "Controlling inflation is [B]always[/B] more important than controlling unemployment." That's something I can reply to!
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37485271]It's also designed to see what sort of image these phrases bring up in your mind.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not. I mean, they can say that, but that's also what I said in college when I had to make surveys for research assignments too and was phoning it in.
The Likert scale requires questions be bipolar. That means specificity. The answer method by definition returns gibberish otherwise.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;37486292]You can add context to these without making them country-specific. For instance, "Controlling inflation is [B]always[/B] more important than controlling unemployment." That's something I can reply to!
No, it's not. I mean, they can say that, but that's also what I said in college when I had to make surveys for research assignments too and was phoning it in.
The Likert scale requires questions be bipolar. That means specificity. The answer method by definition returns gibberish otherwise.[/QUOTE]
how does saying "always" change anything? And what do you mean "no it's not"? As we have already seen, different people have different interpret the same question differently, thanks to their political ideology.
And the questions are bipolar. It's agree or disagree. That's two poles.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37486386]how does saying "always" change anything?[/QUOTE]
"Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment." is meaningless. Unemployment means different things in different contexts. Whether it is a bad, meaningless, or good thing is entirely dependent on context, and the statement has no context. You cannot have an opinion on the statement "Dogs are better than [undefined]."
"Controlling inflation is always more important than controlling unemployment." gives unemployment meaning. Now it's a statement about all unemployment, regardless of time, location, etc. You can have an attitude toward it because it actually says something.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37486386]And what do you mean "no it's not"? As we have already seen, different people have different interpret the same question differently, thanks to their political ideology.[/QUOTE]
What I see is people talking about their political beliefs on a forum. To say the survey is "designed to see what sort of image these phrases bring up in your mind" implies one could read survey results and identify said imagery and what statements provoked it. But the survey results are simple Likert scale data, so that's not true.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37486386]And the questions are bipolar. It's agree or disagree. That's two poles.[/QUOTE]
A survey item's response doesn't dictate what the item is.
"Am I on fire?" is a bipolar question. If I provide a multiple choice response of "Blue", "Red", "Green", and "Lavender", the question is not now multiple choice.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;37488636]"Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment." is meaningless. Unemployment means different things in different contexts. Whether it is a bad, meaningless, or good thing is entirely dependent on context, and the statement has no context. You cannot have an opinion on the statement "Dogs are better than [undefined]."
"Controlling inflation is always more important than controlling unemployment." gives unemployment meaning. Now it's a statement about all unemployment, regardless of time, location, etc. You can have an attitude toward it because it actually says something.
What I see is people talking about their political beliefs on a forum. To say the survey is "designed to see what sort of image these phrases bring up in your mind" implies one could read survey results and identify said imagery and what statements provoked it. But the survey results are simple Likert scale data, so that's not true.
A survey item's response doesn't dictate what the item is.
"Am I on fire?" is a bipolar question. If I provide a multiple choice response of "Blue", "Red", "Green", and "Lavender", the question is not now multiple choice.[/QUOTE]
Adding the word always does not change the definition of unemployment. Unemployment is unemployment. It's a macroeconomic concept, just like inflation.
What image a statement brings to mind depends on your idealogy. Someone with one idealogy might automatically think of a bad thing (One party system) while others might see a good thing (progress).
From the Wikipedia article on the Likert Scale:
[QUOTE]The format of a typical five-level Likert item, for example, could be:
Strongly disagree
Disagree
Neither agree nor disagree
Agree
Strongly agree[/QUOTE]
Some of the questions confused me.
"Astrology accurately explains many things"
What does it explain? Nuclear fusion? How a telephone works? How to grow tomatoes?
"Some people are naturally unlucky"
This one baffled me.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;37488868]Some of the questions confused me.
"Astrology accurately explains many things"
What does it explain? Nuclear fusion? How a telephone works? How to grow tomatoes?
"Some people are naturally unlucky"
This one baffled me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, some of them make no sense.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;37483368]Hey, it seems the president of my fan club is talking about me again![/QUOTE]
That is so lame, surely you could have come up with something better.
My one complaint about the "Political Compass" test is it has no "No Opinion" answer.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37488743]Adding the word always does not change the definition of unemployment. Unemployment is unemployment. It's a macroeconomic concept, just like inflation.[/QUOTE]
It's not that simple. Being unemployed has radically different meanings when you live in the UK versus Somalia.
If it's supposed to be talking about just the raw abstract concepts then it's downright dumb. "Multiplication is better than division" isn't something you can have an opinion on either because the two do not compare that way.
Why you're quoting the Likert scale now without saying anything is beyond me. You could admit you don't really understand how surveys work.
[QUOTE=lavacano;37489327]My one complaint about the "Political Compass" test is it has no "No Opinion" answer.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://marketing-bulletin.massey.ac.nz/V2/MB_V2_N3_Garland.pdf"]Neutral responses add a bias to Likert scale stuff.[/URL] Not including one adds a different bias. The forced choice is preferable in this instance.
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